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Does anyone know how to train a dog to let you know he has to go to the bathroom outside?

Gramma Lil 2008/01/19 04:30:02
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Our maltese Toby has been a handful ever since we got him a year ago. To this day we can't seem to get him to understand that he has to go to the bathroom outside. We finally got him to stop going on the carpet a few months ago. We had to block him from going into the living room or upstairs, where ever there is carpet. Now even if he is outside for long periods at a time he will still come inside and use the bathroom on the kitchen floor. We love him so much and paid alot of money for him so we want to keep him. But it's getting frustrating to say the least. He is so hyper that we can't leave the front door open for even a second cause he takes off running. The whole family is seen chasing him all down the street for blocks. I am ready to call someone like the dog whisperer but I thought maybe my sodahead friends might have some good tips to help us out. The photo is exactly how he looks....he's adorable looking but he is so bad. Any training tips would be greatly appreciated....thank you!
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  • DrTim 2008/01/19 04:44:08
    Yes
    DrTim
    +12
    This may sound a bit cruel but "it Works"!
    Get a kennel( a dog carrier that gives the dog room enough to be comfortable).
    Put the dog in the kennel when you leave for work or when it is bed time.
    When you release the dog from the kennel take him/her DIRECTLY outside.
    Keep this up as long as it takes.(some dogs catch on faster than others)
    The theory is an animal wont go where it sleeps!! The dog will associate outside with relief.
    By the way if you notice the dogs eyes going crossed ...he's been in the kennel TOO LONG!!!

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  • Nutgirl aka (Sus) 2008/03/01 18:40:15
    Yes
    Nutgirl aka (Sus)
    +1
    Go outside with him until he potties, then bring him back inside and maybe give him a small treat for doing the business. Then he should get in the habit of wanting to go outside. If he continues to potty inside, crate him as kinda punishment or time out.
  • Ripped1X... 2008/01/21 20:10:18
    Yes
    Ripped1X...
    +2
    I did this with my boxer he had the same 2 big problems #1 & #2 in the house and if he got out in the front yard, he was gone I bought a shock collar at petco, now before you flip out Lil get the one that has both shock and sound and the shock setting is adjustable from 1 to 9, read the directions my dog changed his behavior after being zapped twice we took the collar off him in 4 days and he has not stepped out of the yard since and he now asks to go out side, he's such a well behaved doggy now. If he even thinks about not listening I get the collar out of the closet and show it to him and he straightens right up.
  • Gramma Lil Ripped1... 2008/01/21 20:19:04
    Gramma Lil
    I didn't know they had those!! Wow!! If things don't get better, we are going to have to do something shocking. I'm afraid he is going to get runned over when he takes off like that. I would rather he experience a little uncomforatble shock than to get scraped off the side of the road. Thank you!!
  • Ripped1... Gramma Lil 2008/01/21 20:35:49
    Ripped1X...
    +1
    I put up an invisable electric fence and it was way to tramatic he let out a yelp that made my skin crawl so I took it out and threw it in the trash, the great part about these collars is the noise part, you can barely hear it but it drives the dog nuts you hit that button first then if they don't obey they get the shock you will be amazed how quickly they get in line my dog after one zap for his behavior problems only needed to hear the high pitched noise the second time, plus it comes with a really cool remote control and what man can resist a remote control, Grampa Lil will have the dog trained before you can say sit Toby...
  • Gramma Lil Ripped1... 2008/01/21 20:38:47
    Gramma Lil
    Sorry there is no grampa lil...if there is that would be me!! LOL!!
  • Ripped1... Gramma Lil 2008/01/21 20:43:47
    Ripped1X...
    +1
    What the hell is wrong with those men in Calif.?
  • Gramma Lil Ripped1... 2008/01/21 22:18:10
    Gramma Lil
    +1
    I've been married twice and I have my relationships now. There's just no one I want to keep around to play grampy.
  • Leethal 2008/01/21 06:37:38
    No
    Leethal
    +1
    Sorry I've alwats had adult dogs who are already in the know with the pee pee
  • pitbullmomma raccoonsista! 2008/01/20 20:34:02
    Yes
    pitbullmomma raccoonsista!
    +1
    I'm sure this has already been mentioned - have you tried a crate? I've found crate training to be the most reliable and fastest way to train a dog when done correctly.
  • YankeeInMS 2008/01/19 22:58:39
    Yes
    YankeeInMS
    +1
    By now he should be housebroken. I think he believes he's top dog in your "pack" and is making all his own rules. Every dog is different. The only thing I can suggest at this point is timing. There is a certain period of time between when a dog eats and when he poos. Restrict his food to certain times and then take him outside when you know he will normally poo. Keep him outside until he relieves himself and praise him to high heaven. You will have to wait him out and not bring him into the house until he takes care of business. If this doesn't' work for you, the dog whisperer may be a good idea. Good luck.
  • sweetpeachie 2008/01/19 17:52:03
    Yes
    sweetpeachie
    +1
    Okay, it takes time. And lots of patience, haha. When they pee on the carpet, you tell them no, and grab a rolled up newspaper. Just swat their butt with it, lead them to the door, and take them outside. They won't pee because they're scared, but when you start doing that, they will get the hint.
  • LPE 2008/01/19 17:01:30
    Yes
    LPE
    +2
    Crate training... what DrTim said (currently your top comment).
  • angel,22 2008/01/19 15:51:38
    Yes
    angel,22
    +2
    If you take him outside the same time every day and keep him outside untill he goes and then praise him this may help! what every you do do not hit him or scold him this will just make it worse. Be consistent let him know there is no place to relieve himself other then outside.
  • K man 2008/01/19 15:12:04 (edited)
    Yes
    K man
    +3
    Yes, grammalil - on just the house training:

    A dog that is not house-trained by about one year is training you, not the other way around. Training dogs is a carrot and stick process, leaning heavily on the carrot part (treats and praise).

    I advise you clean the floors and rugs throughly with a odor killing cleaner to avoid attracting the dog to the odors. Then, you need to begin a more intense training regime with the dog. You are on the right track with crating the dog at night and at any time during the day that you can’t give the dog 100% supervision. When the dog is out of the crate and inside the house, it must be on a leash so it cannot sneak off to eliminate. Take the dog out so often (hourly) that it won’t even have the urge or need to eliminate inside. Be ready with its favorite treat and give it to the dog immediately with lots of excited good dogs praise every time it does anything outside.

    Take the dog out immediately in the morning, immediately after it has been in the crate for awhile and about 15 minutes after each meal.

    As you gain some confidence in the dogs progress, you can let it off leash for short periods, but only when you are watching it 100%. If it tries to squat, tell it NO and whisk it outside. Then give treats and praise.

    Never punish a...







    Yes, grammalil - on just the house training:

    A dog that is not house-trained by about one year is training you, not the other way around. Training dogs is a carrot and stick process, leaning heavily on the carrot part (treats and praise).

    I advise you clean the floors and rugs throughly with a odor killing cleaner to avoid attracting the dog to the odors. Then, you need to begin a more intense training regime with the dog. You are on the right track with crating the dog at night and at any time during the day that you can’t give the dog 100% supervision. When the dog is out of the crate and inside the house, it must be on a leash so it cannot sneak off to eliminate. Take the dog out so often (hourly) that it won’t even have the urge or need to eliminate inside. Be ready with its favorite treat and give it to the dog immediately with lots of excited good dogs praise every time it does anything outside.

    Take the dog out immediately in the morning, immediately after it has been in the crate for awhile and about 15 minutes after each meal.

    As you gain some confidence in the dogs progress, you can let it off leash for short periods, but only when you are watching it 100%. If it tries to squat, tell it NO and whisk it outside. Then give treats and praise.

    Never punish a dog verbally or physically after the fact. Even minutes later, they don’t know why you are acting like that toward them; although they appear to know, they really only know that you are upset. The ONLY time you can effectively correct a dog with a loud and scary NO is when it is IN THE Act.

    I encourage you to ask your questions at practical-pet-care.com. You will get a similar answer from some smart people. I used to be a site moderator there – tell them that GentlemanGeorge sent you.

    I advise you to ask them about how to discourage the door darting; I have never had to deal with that much.



    Good luck!
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  • Gramma Lil K man 2008/01/19 16:46:40
    Gramma Lil
    Oh my you are so right...Toby is training us...LMAO!! He is so spoiled already it's unbelievalbe. We did that already with the carpets thru a steam cleaning with some pet removal stuff as well. We no longer allow him anywhere near the carpeted rooms. I will be going to pet site you referred me too. Thank you so much. All of you have been so helpful.
  • skull 2008/01/19 13:58:04
    Yes
    skull
    +2
    Feed him or her at the same time each day , also take dog out at the same time each day . Do not let the dog back in the house until it use the bath room .
  • Gramma Lil skull 2008/01/19 16:47:53
    Gramma Lil
    I've tried this and he actually holds it sometimes til he comes back in...then he goes on the kitchen floor. It's like he is trained to do the opposite. LOL!!
  • skull Gramma Lil 2008/01/19 17:00:11
    skull
    +2
    Know matter what do not let him back in until he use it, That way he will know what he going outside for ,and will know he can not come back in until he use it.
  • Ripped1... Gramma Lil 2008/01/21 20:14:57
    Ripped1X...
    shock treatment
  • Florida Keys 2008/01/19 13:09:38 (edited)
    Undecided
    Florida Keys
    +2
    Put pictures of Hillary outside in the grass...and on the (Bush's)...and on the fire hydrants..One look.. and little Toby will be running around outside like a lawn sprinkler.....LOL
  • Gramma Lil Florida... 2008/01/19 16:48:33
    Gramma Lil
    +1
    ROFLMFAO!! I'm getting so desperate, I might just try this....LOL!!
  • Roylee 2008/01/19 08:37:39
    No
    Roylee
    +1
    I'd rather train my dog to use the toilet.
  • GOD 2008/01/19 06:52:01
    Yes
    GOD
    +1
    rub his nose in it throw him outside then take it out 3 times aday at the same time everyday it will work
  • Eager Beaver 2008/01/19 06:33:11
    Yes
    Eager Beaver
    +1
    we used a cage to train our jack russell... we would take him outside every time we let him out of the cage and whenever he was out of the cage with us we would take him out every 45 mins to an hour
  • SparkleyPie 2008/01/19 06:12:41
    Yes
    SparkleyPie
    +1
    There seems to be lots of good advice here. The only thing I can think to add is to make sure the spots are thoroughly cleaned up. I'm sure you do clean it up, but remember that dogs have better smellers than we do. I recommend to my clients that they use hydrogen peroxide to clean up pet messes on carpeting. Peroxide is H²O² (one oxygen from being water). You can just saturate the area with peroxide, and dab it up a few minutes later. Whatever is left behind will turn into water once it's been exposed to the light and air for a certain amount of time. It won't bleach out your carpet. It will kill the bacteria that causes the odor that attracts your doggie to pee there.
  • Gone! 2008/01/19 05:58:23
  • Gramma Lil Gone! 2008/01/19 07:35:08
    Gramma Lil
    +1
    Yes they are beautiful dogs but they are bad little devils,,,LOL!! We love him tho...bad and all.
  • jljohn 2008/01/19 05:48:50
    Yes
    jljohn
    +2
    Pee in his bed.
  • Gramma Lil jljohn 2008/01/19 05:52:31
    Gramma Lil
    +1
    What??? LOL!!
  • jljohn Gramma Lil 2008/01/19 06:11:17
    jljohn
    +1
    Then...show him the door. :))))
  • Spider20 2008/01/19 05:45:17 (edited)
    Yes
    Spider20
    +1
    Looks like there's plenty of excellent advice here....I was lucky with my last 2 dogs.....Lab and Lab mix....they seem to come pretrained to potty outside.......thank goodness.........
    BTW....great name, Toby.......I once had a cocker-dachsund (sp?) mix....named him Toby Too Short......he was a stinker.......
  • Gramma Lil Spider20 2008/01/19 05:53:33
    Gramma Lil
    +2
    His name is Sir Tobius...we call him Toby for short.
  • Spider20 Gramma Lil 2008/01/19 05:58:38
    Spider20
    Cool name....good luck with him.....I named mine "Toby Too Short" because his legs were so short he barley cleared the ground.......
  • Stephen 2008/01/19 05:27:53
    Yes
    Stephen
    +2
    Actually it's a combination of several things. You need to stick it's nose right up to the mess. Then make it look at you and say NO! Repeat two or three times. Look angry and Tap it on the nose once or twice ,not to hard. The nose is a very senceitive spot for dogs. Then smack, not to hard on the rear. Then take the dog outside. And every time it goes to the bathroom outside. Give it an overwhelming amount of love and affection. The entire process shouldn't take more than a few weeks. But, for some, two months. It must be walked at least four time a day. As evenly as possible. Like every four hours. Also small dogs have small bladders. Please keep that in mind. If you dog drinks and pees alot. Then it may be diabetic. You may want to have that tested. If it's around the heating vents alot or near a fireplace? That too can make it more thirsty. And thus need to go out more. Hope I helped. Have a great night.
  • Gramma Lil Stephen 2008/01/19 05:29:23
    Gramma Lil
    +1
    Thank you so much.
  • Stephen Gramma Lil 2008/01/19 05:42:42
    Stephen
    +1
    Anytime at all.
  • Jeri 2008/01/19 05:14:36
    Yes
    Jeri
    +1
    If all else fails just buy puppy pads and put them down where he goes, problem solved.
  • Gramma Lil Jeri 2008/01/19 05:17:51
    Gramma Lil
    We have those and sometimes he goes on the pad and sometimes he goes right next to the pad on the floor again....LOL!
  • Foo Master Angie 2008/01/19 05:08:41
    Yes
    Foo Master Angie
    +1
    All dogs are different. When we got the new couches, we started putting him in the basement when we went to work. He always peed when we put him down there. Once we knew that he wasn't going to bother the furniture, we stopped leaving him downstairs, and sure enough...he stopped peeing!
    Then I moved into an apartment and he started peeing in the kitchen. Every single day he peed in the kitchen, no matter what. I think it's because the people that lived there before me had a dog that peed there....
  • Gramma Lil Foo Mas... 2008/01/19 05:18:56
    Gramma Lil
    +1
    I swear he's like training a child...he is so cute and yet so bad.

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