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Does a woman need to look young to be beautiful?

Chris- Demon of the PHAET 2012/02/19 20:26:42

SLIDESHOW: Extreme beauty does not depend on youth!

My favorite shot of Carmen.
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My favorite shot of Carmen.

I like this photo because it reeks of sex. Smear her lipstick and she could be just getting out of bed. Maybe her current lover is still asleep, worn out after a night of love making?
  1. Carmen at 78.

    Carmen at 78.

    That is a face!

  2. Haute Couture

    Haute Couture

    I would put her on any runway in Paris.

  3. 74!

    74!

    Gray hair and a red dress is killer chic.

  4. When the dress looks that good on who needs to sit?

    When the dress looks that good on who needs to sit?

    It takes years to obtain this kind of beauty.

  5. 80!

    80!

    No blonde hair or dark lined lips.

  6. Rolex ad.

    Rolex ad.

    The face that sells $10,000.00 is not 21.

  7. Modeling hats at 80.

    Modeling hats at 80.

    This photo is all about face. (and it's not the face of a 18 year old.)

  8. My favorite shot of Carmen.

    My favorite shot of Carmen.

    I like this photo because it reeks of sex. Smear her lipstick and she could be just getting out of bed. Maybe her current lover is still asleep, worn out after a night of love making?

Does a woman need to look young to be beautiful?
There is current poll about Marc Jacobs using a 14 yr. old girl as a model. Whether she is too young for modeling is for her parents to decide. I think a bigger question is why would any designer use a teenager to sell clothes to a woman? A woman in her 30's,. no matter how beautiful, does not have the frame, skin, or hair of a 14 yr. old. And why should she? This idea that to be beautiful one must be young is simply not true.
Let's accept the fact that in the world of fashion the image presented has nothing to do with reality for most women. The truth is they are using a highly stylized look to sell a image, the designer's image, of what the ideal woman should be. I would argue that even in that fantasy is not youth alone that makes a women beautiful. In fact with symmetry and bone structure youth is not even needed. To prove my point I have a slide show of Carmen Dell'Orefice who will be 81 in June. She is the oldest model currently working with well over 40 years in the business. Personally I think these photos are stunning and none of them are about youth. They are, in fact, about age. The reason they are so striking is because this woman is NOT 20. (or 30 or 40 or 50 for that matter.) I'm curious how other people feel. This is not about inner beauty folks, it's all about the veneer. What makes a woman physically beautiful and how important is youth? Send me some pics of women you think are beautiful.
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  • Angelica Thrasher 2012/09/27 04:59:16
    Angelica Thrasher
    +1
    No! I have seen plenty of elderly women who are probably more attractive than younger women these days.
  • Chris- ... Angelic... 2012/09/27 07:41:04
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +1
    Agreed. :-)
  • angelbaby 2012/08/08 16:00:17
    angelbaby
    +2
    A woman can be beautiful in every stage of her life ~

    woman beautiful stage life
    woman beautiful stage life
    woman beautiful stage life
  • Chris- ... angelbaby 2012/08/08 16:09:00
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +2
    I agree. Beautiful pictures. :-)
  • DarkChild 2012/07/30 03:53:58
    DarkChild
    +1
    No not at all
  • Chris- ... DarkChild 2012/07/30 04:22:22
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    Agree. :-)
  • Tank 2012/05/05 18:51:11 (edited)
  • Chris- ... Tank 2012/05/05 21:45:17
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +2
    You feel strongly about this? (just a guess) :^D
  • Tank Chris- ... 2012/05/05 21:56:18
  • Chris- ... Tank 2012/05/06 00:52:33
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +2
    Interesting as our population ages we seem to becoming much more youth obsessed.
  • Tank Chris- ... 2012/05/06 01:00:52
    Tank
    +2
    Ah - but there are more and more young people, plus there is an awful lot of profit in marketing/selling 'youth' to people - think makeup, hair dye, sports equipment/muscle developer things, eye drops, hair treatments (such as implants and growth products),even surgery, among other things. There is an awful lot of money to be made from this idea that beauty equals youth, among other things, such as beauty = skinny, or white (I'm sure you get the idea).

    Though yes, it is interesting, especially considering that more and more people are living longer and so reaching much older ages.
  • Chris- ... Tank 2012/05/06 01:19:54
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +2
    Very true. And very sad.
  • Tank Chris- ... 2012/05/06 01:21:25
    Tank
    +2
    Incredibly sad. And also very disturbing.
  • Chris- ... Tank 2012/05/06 01:25:47
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +1
    And is it me or does it seem like younger women are buying into this as well? I'm thinking of Nicole Kidman. I saw her recently and she now has the whole "injected face and lips" thing going on.
  • Tank Chris- ... 2012/05/06 01:30:15
    Tank
    +2
    Oh gosh, even younger than that - some of my friends and other people my age, even (I'm a teenager). Think full face foundation, over-treated hair, and I even know some people my age who use anti-ageing creams. I couldn't even believe it when I found out. (These people don't have skin conditions or anything, they are genuinely using them on normal young skin because they think that it will make them 'prettier'). Just makes you want to cry..
  • Sheila 2012/04/04 16:35:02
    Sheila
    +2
    Lena Horn was one of the most beatiful women I have ever seen, even up until she past away. Diane keaton is one of my favorites. We are living in a time when we can be different and beautiful. Ellen Degenerate, and Queen Latifah can be cover girls and look flawless. For me beauty is looking the best you can be what ever age you are.
  • Chris- ... Sheila 2012/04/05 03:06:05
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +1
    Lena Horne was a true beauty. I am also a great fan of The Queen. I couldn't agree more with your statement, " We are living in a time when we can be different and beautiful." You are so right.
  • *Mahogany Goddess of P.H.A.E.T 2012/04/03 18:06:58
    *Mahogany Goddess of P.H.A.E.T
    +4
    No; I find women who let themselves age gracefully to be the most beautiful.
  • Chris- ... *Mahoga... 2012/04/03 18:09:48
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +1
    Exactly. Even surface beauty is not based on youth. You studied art so you know what I'm talking about. It's all about symetry and balance and that is not dependent on youth.
  • *Mahoga... Chris- ... 2012/04/03 18:11:50
    *Mahogany Goddess of P.H.A.E.T
    +2
    Exactly, and the passion the individual has in their eyes; their demeanor as well.
  • Chris- ... *Mahoga... 2012/04/03 18:16:50
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +1
    Absolutely. I wasn't even getting into inner beauty, sex appeal, intelligence, charm, good humor, sophistication, and the many other quailities that make a woman beautiful.
  • abycinnamon BN-1 2012/04/03 17:53:48 (edited)
    abycinnamon BN-1
    +1
    18 always wins. I think it's a lot easier to think that age is irrelevant when you are young. And yes there are nice looking older women, but put them next to an 18 year old and it's game over.
  • Chris- ... abycinn... 2012/04/03 18:05:42
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +4
    Sorry but I don't agree. You're assuming a standard of beauty that is not relevant. Even surface beauty is based on some pretty simple rules of balance. Things like hair and makeup do not stand the test of time. I could sculpt Carmen in marble and she would look as beautiful 500 years from now as she does today. Certainly the same could be said about some 18 year olds but not because of their age.
  • abycinn... Chris- ... 2012/04/03 18:18:46 (edited)
    abycinnamon BN-1
    +1
    as a man I suppose I can not expect you to understand life as a woman. Marble doesn't age. Your sculpture would not reflect the changes that age has brought to her skin. Put her next to an 18 year old with her same proportions and she loses. Those are the facts. I'm not talking about hair and makeup. 18 always wins.

    I would also point out what you don't see in these photos. You don't see her neck, or her arms. You don't really see her skin. You don't see the sun damage spots all over her arms and legs, or the wrinkles in her neck and arms, or any of the other changes of age. You do see one hell of a lot of makeup. You know she's had plenty of surgery.

    Yes of course these pictures are very striking. The amount of makeup, however, is almost clownish, and you would not have this effect without it. This woman would not look so striking with a "natural look" makeup application.

    You cannot run away from time.
  • Chris- ... abycinn... 2012/04/03 18:22:43
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    I suppose you're looking at beauty as sexual attraction which, considering you're a heterosexual man, makes sense. Fair enough. :^D
  • Chris- ... Chris- ... 2012/04/03 18:25:56
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +1
    Wait, I miss read your reply! LOL! Sorry. Though since I know you're a woman I take back my rave. :) I absolutely do not agree. :^D
  • abycinn... Chris- ... 2012/04/03 18:35:54
    abycinnamon BN-1
    +1
    As you are a man, I don't expect you to understand someone in my shoes. Men don't become invisible when they get to your age. Women do. And if that woman were to walk around in that makeup, she would look bizarre. That is not street makeup. It would work pretty well for a vampire role. She would not look striking in "natural" make up.

    There is a lot of this woman you are not seeing that is not attractive at all. Things that wouldn't show up in marble - like sun damage lesions - we pretty much all get them if we're white. And of course all the wrinkles on her neck and body. Not very attractive.

    I'm not trying to tear her down. I'm just trying to point out reality for you. This is what happens to women. We disappear at a certain age. No, celebrities don't disappear - but regular women do. That's just what happens, and it's painful and it sucks but it's true. It would be kind of nice if men were aware of that, but I guess they don't want to be.
  • Chris- ... abycinn... 2012/04/03 18:50:46
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +2
    i agree with everything you said. That is exactly my point. The standard for beauty in this country is completely unrealistic and wrong in the truest sense. I only chose this woman because of her age and bones. Other people posted different woman who I would argue are as beautiful as any 18 year old, simply in a different way. I would also add that as out population ages it seems to be getting worse. Now we have women like "The Real Housewives of..." who look grotesque with their fake breasts, hair extensions, and tight, expressionless faces. I hear you loud and clear and I think you are making my point.
  • abycinn... Chris- ... 2012/04/03 18:55:36
    abycinnamon BN-1
    +1
    okay. Too bad more men aren't like you.
  • Chris- ... abycinn... 2012/04/03 19:08:19
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +1
    Well since I'm gay I've thought the same thing. :^D
  • abycinn... Chris- ... 2012/04/04 00:52:17 (edited)
    abycinnamon BN-1
    Ah! Well - happy hunting. I should have figured that out - the good ones are often gay.
  • abycinn... Chris- ... 2012/04/03 18:29:01
    abycinnamon BN-1
    actually, if you just roll your mouse over my picture, you'll see I'm female. I'm looking at this as someone who has lost her youth and is now invisible. It's not fun.
  • Christi 2012/04/03 16:45:21
    Christi
    +2
    no they do not
  • Chris- ... Christi 2012/04/03 16:47:59
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +2
    I agree 100%. :)
  • Bastion 2012/04/03 16:40:22
    Bastion
    +1
    The word "beautiful" encompasses so much more than most young people are capable of understanding.
  • Chris- ... Bastion 2012/04/03 16:42:51
  • Stacie's Mirage 2012/04/03 16:32:29
    Stacie's Mirage
    +1
    She is beautiful!
  • Chieki 2012/03/26 22:24:36
    Chieki
    +5
    Age is irrelevant.

    beautiful women dove
  • Chris- ... Chieki 2012/03/27 14:14:44
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    Too true.
  • Chieki Chris- ... 2012/03/27 21:45:15

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