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The Way of the Wilderness
Way of the Wilderness
The Bible records that God instructed Moses to lead the Children of Israel by
the Way of the Wilderness.
In Exodus 13:17-18, the Bible records, "Then it came to pass, when
Pharaoh had let the people go, that God did not lead them by way of the land of
the Philistines, although that was near; for God said, 'Lest perhaps the people
change their minds when they see war, and return to Egypt.' So God led the
people around by way of the wilderness of the Red Sea".
"The way of the wilderness" was a frequently used highway passing
through a vast, open desert area, called the Wilderness of the Red Sea.
The Wadi Watir
If the Children of Israel had continued on this desert road, they would have
continued in a direction heading North East. However, God told Moses to turn off
the road, and travel in a new direction, passing though mountains that would
"close them in."
In Exodus 14:1-3 the Bible records, "Now the LORD spoke to Moses, saying:
"Speak to the children of Israel, that they turn and camp before Pi Hahiroth,
between Migdol and the sea, opposite Baal Zephon; you shall camp before it by
the sea. For Pharaoh will say of the children of Israel, 'They are bewildered by
the land; the wilderness has closed them in."
Nuweiba Beach
The Wadi Watir is a long deep canyon, about 40 miles long, which fits this
description perfectly, and explains Pharaoh’s reaction to their change in their
expected route North East to Etham.
After many miles the Wadi Watir opens out to a large beach area, on the
Western coast of the Gulf of Aquaba. This beach at Nuweiba along the Gulf of
Aquaba is the only beach that would have been large enough to accommodate the
estimated two million people and their flocks.
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princess 2012/06/24 23:35:50Yes this is why























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and see four yourself the stone tables held by the musseum
1. The tombs. They contain arches, some pointed. Pointed arches didn't exist back then.
2. Underwater relics. Nope. If the veneers on the chariots are too fragile to move they wouldn't exist under the tidal flow. I can't buy this one.
3. The coral encrusted wheel is very different from those claimed to be Pharaohs war chariot wheels. Too fancy, too many folks. On a claimed military expedition one must keep parameters constant with regard to claims.
4. The columns of Solomon were put up as a dedication of an event that happened 500 years earlier. Such practices are common today too, so I can't consider this "proof". Evidence, yes but not applicable.
5. Jethro's home in Al Bad. No way. Everyone knows that Jethro lived in Bug Tussel and then Beverly Hills.
6. There are many Hebrew carvings, etc in rocks all over the region. Taking close ones near trade routes and associating them with events is easy.
OK; real nice presentation and I did learn a few things. While I DO believe there was a slave escape from Egypt I cannot give credence to one of such biblical proportion. Go and listen to a bunch of old Jews talking and listen to them embellish stories! How many slaves?
I'm really into the archaeology ...
1. The tombs. They contain arches, some pointed. Pointed arches didn't exist back then.
2. Underwater relics. Nope. If the veneers on the chariots are too fragile to move they wouldn't exist under the tidal flow. I can't buy this one.
3. The coral encrusted wheel is very different from those claimed to be Pharaohs war chariot wheels. Too fancy, too many folks. On a claimed military expedition one must keep parameters constant with regard to claims.
4. The columns of Solomon were put up as a dedication of an event that happened 500 years earlier. Such practices are common today too, so I can't consider this "proof". Evidence, yes but not applicable.
5. Jethro's home in Al Bad. No way. Everyone knows that Jethro lived in Bug Tussel and then Beverly Hills.
6. There are many Hebrew carvings, etc in rocks all over the region. Taking close ones near trade routes and associating them with events is easy.
OK; real nice presentation and I did learn a few things. While I DO believe there was a slave escape from Egypt I cannot give credence to one of such biblical proportion. Go and listen to a bunch of old Jews talking and listen to them embellish stories! How many slaves?
I'm really into the archaeology thing, especially associating it with things that are taught. Truth is a very elusive commodity, and very rare. Thanks for the link! Here's a cookie for you:
Pharoahs army was made up of several legions including veterians so it is not hard to see how older and newer chariots would have been in use also one ranks would be noted by the type of weapons/ chariots in use too.
I believe the number freed was 3 million which also raises the question how long the waters would need to be parted in order for such a multitude to cross of variing ages child to old n fragile as well as person belongins etc.
Comparing the Titanic steel to thin veneers in waters affected by tides and currents just won't do. Besides, in 3700 years there will be nothing left of the Titanic. It's crumbling after only 100.
There certainly could have been a mix of chariot styles but I do consider it unlikely in an organized military in a country at the height of it's power.
I'm quite sure something happened and slaves did get away. But the numbers and the story behind the exodus just doesn't cut it. Probably sounded great to the kids around the fire though.
In other news, archaeology has pretty much proven the Joshua thing and the conquest of the Canaanites to be bunk. Looks like something else happened and two "peoples" merely blended, perhaps for mutual benefit. It happens all the time, even today.
You and everyone else is certainly welcome to their beliefs, but really now. Some things just never happened.
remeber the titanic also had much timber used though-out the ship as well
and as you know timber under water does not always rot that quickly
I have a question about miracles if you please. How come we haven't seen any of biblical proportion in the last 2000 years? That's why I assign many of the bible stories to embellished campfire stories. After all, the Old Testament is pretty much a compilation of stories meant to scare the kids and keep them in line. The NT is quite different and has switched from obvious threats to implied threats and promises.
Hopefully you're aware that I'm looking for different "takes" on certain things here and I'm not trying to knock you down. I have changed my mind on issues due to things I've read on this site. There's nothing more I like to say than "I never thought of that!".
1.how would Moses know this event was going to happen and the Sea would part at that excat moment under your claim here?
2. how one man could pull of such a logistical nightmare unless the hand of some very high power assisted him?
also
3. why did Egypt hand over it's wealth to a group of slaves as it set them free?
1. Tide tables.
2. 2 by 2 in a long, long line.
3. As an investment. Even then Jews were the very best at doubling your money!
OK, enough answers designed to make you smile. If any crossing did occur for a group, tides and winds do produce predictable results. All they had to do was ask, and I'm sure a woman did that since men never ask for direction when on the road.
He couldn't.
I didn't know they did that.
which makes me wonder even more who they would have been able to ask for directions from in the desert as well hmmmm time to think a little more
so again I would have to ask those questions once more
1.how would Moses know this event was going to happen and the Sea would part at that excat moment under your claim here?
2. how one man could pull of such a logistical nightmare unless the hand of some very high power assisted him?
also
3. why did Egypt hand over it's wealth to a group of slaves as it set them free?
points to consider b4 you answer
A. the level of technology in that era.
B. the way in which warfae was carried out
c. what it meant for a tribe to move from one ground to another little lone a nation of some sizable proportion.
d. the climate conditions in which botht the era and locaton would have been like.
E. the condition of the nation upon release from their enslavery.would they have been well rested and feed?.... what about the health level?
why would the entire Egyptian army chase after them?
1.how would Moses know this event was going to happen and the Sea would part at that excat moment under your claim here?
2. how one man could pull of such a logistical nightmare unless the hand of some very high power assisted him?
also
3. why did Egypt hand over it's wealth to a group of slaves as it set them free?
You are boring... You have no proof or your claims.. I have posted expert after expert on every thing you claim and proved it false... Get over it You lost...LMAO
1.how would Moses know this event was going to happen and the Sea would part at that excat moment under your claim here?
2. how one man could pull of such a logistical nightmare unless the hand of some very high power assisted him?
also
3. why did Egypt hand over it's wealth to a group of slaves as it set them free?