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Do you think people who commit suicide should be considered "cowards"

Honesty 2007/05/14 03:36:05
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I have heard so many times that people who commit suicide are cowards because they are taking the easy way out. And I think to myself how hard it is to kill youself. I have been close to suicide several times in my life. The worst was when I had to move away from family and friends of a lifetime because hubby was changing job locations. I yearned to have the strength to go up on the mountain behind my house and shoot myself, I would sit on the back porch watching the mountain and wondered what it was that was keeping me from going up. My doctor asked me one time, "What about those who love you". I stated, "they will get over it in time, doesn't time heal all things"? Besides when a person is in that deep of a depression they don't think anyone cares about them anyway. All of this was happening when I was in my mid forties, now I'm 62 and on medication, but I still wonder sometimes what is taking the good Lord so long to get to my number.
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  • mizpraise 2007/10/10 05:13:19
    No
    mizpraise
    +3
    Instead of judging, try to help people who feel like committing suicide. They need our help..

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  • Bryan 2009/03/29 05:23:22
    Undecided
    Bryan
    I see suicide, for the most part, as the ultimate case of childishness and stupidity. People act like they are the only people in the world with the problems causing the desire for suicide. As an example, I had a friend who had the court take her baby away from her because she was a drug addict. Instead of moving on, going through rehabilitation, and learning from her mistakes, she hung herself. The only reason for suicide, in my opinion, is if someone is physically going to die slowly, like on the battlefield. Google "Johnny got his gun" to see what I mean.
  • u funny 2008/05/01 01:34:39
    No
    u funny
    depression , and others things plays a roll in it when people do like i said i tried 3 times and my family said i was crazy they didn't understand what i was going through the first time i was 16 and then when i was in my 20's and in 97 when my exhusband divorced me after 34 yrs. of marriage
  • Maria 2008/04/18 07:20:27
    No
    Maria
    coward is a wrong verb for this kind of person who dwell and swamp with dark thoughts. however this person need to be social, such as taking dancing class, attend church choir, to tell you what singing does kill the blue. and do not worry too way much, that where worry eat you up real good. take your husband to join church group counselor about his moving around is little over limit. learn to laugh often it does work. there are a lot of ways you can do guilt the blanket and recite your scripture. do your garden and see how it grows. there are many things you can do not just sit there and thinking so much about one person that you meant your husband been moving around. you took out a lot of one energy pour on one person that what vacuum into depression. keep on moving around will not knock you into depression. what you need a good chicken soul book to read while you make your business in bathroom.
  • Funtastic 2008/04/09 03:30:44
    No
    Funtastic
    People that commit suicide are troubled not cowards.
  • I'm Left, You're Wrong 2008/02/15 17:59:07
    No
    I'm Left, You're Wrong
    +1
    It takes a lot of bravery to put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger
  • chris 2008/02/14 12:59:27
    No
    chris
    No coward is reserved for draft dodgers. (not that it's a problem now)
    I wouldn't think of them as a coward. I just think what had to happen to make this person feel that they didn't have anyone to talk to or help them.
  • No
    Kaptn☠King☠Hate☠Machine(Im back!)
    Its a choice.
  • mk, Smartass Oracle 2008/01/30 00:51:21
    Undecided
    mk, Smartass Oracle
    In some cases yes, but in many others no. You have to take it on a case by case basis.
  • mr stiff 2008/01/29 22:41:01
    No
    mr stiff
    They are not cowards..I think they are dealing with a disease of major preportions!!! they have gone as far as they can, while cring for help, in one way or the other, and they can not cry anymore. The real cowards are the people who refuse to help these people!!!
  • e.V.(♥Queen of Doom♥) 2008/01/29 20:12:33
    Undecided
    e.V.(♥Queen of Doom♥)
    I have talked myself out of suicide so many times and I always did it by seeing clearly it is a cowards way out and nota noble act and basically would make me a giant baby havoing the ultimate temper tantrum. It takes courage to live. It doesn't take courage to die by your own hand. IOt takes delusion!

    That said, for others I have buckets of sympathy having been in that predicament so many times... it does take a hideously depressed mindset though and I know from deep multiple personal experience having had my ex kill hinself and having lost several aquaintances this way that it is an act of desperation and deranged mental processes caused by medical depression -not cowardice.

    Encouraging suicide in others by romanticizing the act is wrong. If people feel it is romantic and they wish to encourage others to suicide , well spare us all and they should go shoot themselves now and spare the vulnerable the trouble, quite frankly, rather than encourage people to suicide when things could change and fix whatever is prompting the desperate feelings.

    No one has the right to counsel suicide. That is flat out evil whether deliberate or not. You still end up causing a body bag where before there was a living breathing soul with a fighting chance.

    To call it an act of courage is t...
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    I have talked myself out of suicide so many times and I always did it by seeing clearly it is a cowards way out and nota noble act and basically would make me a giant baby havoing the ultimate temper tantrum. It takes courage to live. It doesn't take courage to die by your own hand. IOt takes delusion!

    That said, for others I have buckets of sympathy having been in that predicament so many times... it does take a hideously depressed mindset though and I know from deep multiple personal experience having had my ex kill hinself and having lost several aquaintances this way that it is an act of desperation and deranged mental processes caused by medical depression -not cowardice.

    Encouraging suicide in others by romanticizing the act is wrong. If people feel it is romantic and they wish to encourage others to suicide , well spare us all and they should go shoot themselves now and spare the vulnerable the trouble, quite frankly, rather than encourage people to suicide when things could change and fix whatever is prompting the desperate feelings.

    No one has the right to counsel suicide. That is flat out evil whether deliberate or not. You still end up causing a body bag where before there was a living breathing soul with a fighting chance.

    To call it an act of courage is to romanticize something that cannot be undone when the problmes troubling the particular soul i questions could well be solvable with more time and other thing.
    :-/ It's too final a solution.

    Also it leaves the living to deal with what you have done - and to bury you - leave them holding the body bag. So that makes t irrespoisble.

    So everytime i figure i want to end it all I tell myself the same thing - it'sa coward's way out and I am not an irresponsible person who would leave my friends bereaved as Pierre left me, nor am I one to leave someone having to deal with my mouldering lifeless corpse.

    No point in romantciizing death or suicide,. that's just dangerous.

    And I say this as some one who is exceedingly gothy, for the record.
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  • Txxx 2007/12/27 20:28:10
    No
    Txxx
    Suicide isn't a coward like act, it takes so much to end your life. I feel for people that have because no body should be in that position. Suicide is a permanant solution to a temporary problem. If you feel that way, talk to someone or call Samaritans. Suicide is never an option.
  • Patty Ann 2007/10/24 04:06:07
    No
    Patty Ann
    +1
    I have nothing but compassion for those who seriously ponder
    committing suicide and for those who do commit suicide. People who do
    that are in pain and feel that suicide is their only out. Of course,
    those left in the wake of a suicide feel a whole range of emotions -
    anger, grief, disbelief, guilt.
    I had an aunt kill herself and it
    was very upsetting. Survivors of suicide not only have to deal with the
    death in general, but the manner in which it occurred. Survivors
    constantly ask themselves "what could I have done", "why didn't I see
    this coming", etc. etc. Inspite of all this, I still don't feel those
    who take their lives are cowards. I just feel deep compassion for them.
    May they all rest in peace.
  • mizpraise 2007/10/10 05:13:19
    No
    mizpraise
    +3
    Instead of judging, try to help people who feel like committing suicide. They need our help..
  • mr stiff mizpraise 2008/01/29 22:44:26
    mr stiff
    You are so right!! People need to help people more instead of pushing these people in to the corner!! I hate it when someone is cring for help and others just ignore them!!! and people wonder why this happens!
  • Arleen 2007/08/13 23:23:07
    No
    Arleen
    They are mentally ill suffering from deep depression. Its obvious if your "normal" you do not have these thoughts let alone carry them out. Those close to them should notice the signs and help them. Sometimes it seems to have happened "out of the blue" but in fact the person has kept it hidden.
    I feel bad for the family members, its very hard for the children. You can be predisposed to suicide if a family member or members have done this.
  • magmeister10 2007/08/04 22:49:25 (edited)
    No
    magmeister10
    +2
    Not cowardice, just severely depressed, lonely and alone.

    Wow, I can't imagine getting up the courage to kill myself. There have been times that I wished I could just breathe out and never breathe in again - the death of children, a mentally abusive marriage, but somehow, like you, years later, here I am.

    I've had to teach myself to love life, and it was a DECISION. I decided to start each day giving thanks (to God, to the Universe, whatever you're comfortable with) for a chance at another day. Then each evening I began to give thanks for the good things that happened in my day. Some days it was hard to find something - anything. But I'm healthy, I have my eyesight, good hearing, I can move, walk, breathe, I have 3 healthy children and 3 healthy granchildren, I have a roof over my head and food to eat. There are so many people who can't say many of those things. I'm so lucky.

    It's just requires looking at things from another perspective.

    You were moving away from family and friends because of your husband's job? Wow! What an opportunity to get to know new people, try new things. Think of how many women don't have loving husbands. Think of how many husbands don't have jobs.

    If you are lucky enough not to have to work outside the home, then volunteer once or twice a we...



    Not cowardice, just severely depressed, lonely and alone.

    Wow, I can't imagine getting up the courage to kill myself. There have been times that I wished I could just breathe out and never breathe in again - the death of children, a mentally abusive marriage, but somehow, like you, years later, here I am.

    I've had to teach myself to love life, and it was a DECISION. I decided to start each day giving thanks (to God, to the Universe, whatever you're comfortable with) for a chance at another day. Then each evening I began to give thanks for the good things that happened in my day. Some days it was hard to find something - anything. But I'm healthy, I have my eyesight, good hearing, I can move, walk, breathe, I have 3 healthy children and 3 healthy granchildren, I have a roof over my head and food to eat. There are so many people who can't say many of those things. I'm so lucky.

    It's just requires looking at things from another perspective.

    You were moving away from family and friends because of your husband's job? Wow! What an opportunity to get to know new people, try new things. Think of how many women don't have loving husbands. Think of how many husbands don't have jobs.

    If you are lucky enough not to have to work outside the home, then volunteer once or twice a week. Most towns have a city mission to help feed the homeless. Volunteer there. Or volunteer in a hospital. You'll go home being thankful every time.

    This sounds like I'm trying to be preachy, pointing out how ungrateful you are, but it truly I'm trying to encourage you to look at your life from a different point of view. It's deciding what blessings you'll think about when thoughts of what you DON'T have come into your mind. Decide ahead of time. Then you'll be ready when the bad thoughts come. Try it for a month.

    I used to think about wanting to die a lot. I don't know that I really wanted to die, I just wanted the pain and sorrow to stop. This helped me. Today I can say, "Thank you for my life exactly as it is today." My life's far from perfect, very far, but it sure is better than the lives that many people live.
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  • Oakie 2007/07/05 02:10:40
    No
    Oakie
    I really don't consider people who commit suicide as cowards, because as you, I have also considered that option, and know how much it takes. Unless you're really sure that your life has no purpose, and you never will feel happy again, you won't be able to.
    But, (as I told myself) suicide isen't the way, I can make my life better, I can make a life that I will treasure.
  • Beth 2007/06/27 12:39:52
    Undecided
    Beth
    I am not undecided really. I think they are extreamly selfish. I have seen the aftermath of suicide. Those left behind suffer the rest of their lives. A father in our town killed himself one month before his son's graduation from high school. Can you imagine? An R.A.killed himself when I was in college. I saw his mother being brought in for the memorial service. Her entire body was shaking. A mother would never get over such a thing. Family members do not get over it. I have not goten over the ones I have mentioned and I was not related to them. Look, I have struggled with depression also. It's not fun. I personally feel we are all on this earth to learn what the Lord would have us understand. We all have challenges. I don't know about you, but as a person who struggles with depression, I find it very therapudic to volunteer to help others. Joining a group of people who have the same struggles as you might be good too. Suicide sends a shockwave through all of humanity, in my belief. It can begin a wave of other suicides in a family line which I have also seen. Besides, I care about you and don't want you to do it.
  • <--That guy 2007/06/23 16:11:52
    No
    <--That guy
    Of course not. They're just people suffering from depression who could use help. Ironically, it's when they're coming out of a severe depressive episode that they are most likely to commit suicide.
  • tonnie 2007/06/14 03:59:10
    No
    tonnie
    Suicide is something that, until it's happened in your world, you can't understand it's impact.
    My only sibling, my twin brother, took his life over two years ago. I can tell you than my life stopped that day and it will never be anywhere near what it was before. To know you've failed someone you loved so dearly, to wonder. . .
    You wonder what you could've said or done to make a difference. You remember EVERY single argument you ever had with him and wish it wasn't. You wish you'd have given in every time there was a discussion or disagreement. And most of all, you wish you'd have told him you loved him when you could have.
    Your mind focuses on that last visit, and you realize that he knew. You didn't, of course; you couldn't have. Bue he did, now you re-think all he said and it's clear he knew. And you cry for him and you cry for you and you really never stop crying for either of you.
    You become angry when people who berate victims of suicide, and you rage when it's called the "ultimate sin." You defend their honor and remind people you don't even know that to betray God is the ultimate sin. And for the survivors, for those who've lived through it, life isn't like it was; the light is and will always be just a little dimmer than before. For you've failed someone terribly,...












    Suicide is something that, until it's happened in your world, you can't understand it's impact.
    My only sibling, my twin brother, took his life over two years ago. I can tell you than my life stopped that day and it will never be anywhere near what it was before. To know you've failed someone you loved so dearly, to wonder. . .
    You wonder what you could've said or done to make a difference. You remember EVERY single argument you ever had with him and wish it wasn't. You wish you'd have given in every time there was a discussion or disagreement. And most of all, you wish you'd have told him you loved him when you could have.
    Your mind focuses on that last visit, and you realize that he knew. You didn't, of course; you couldn't have. Bue he did, now you re-think all he said and it's clear he knew. And you cry for him and you cry for you and you really never stop crying for either of you.
    You become angry when people who berate victims of suicide, and you rage when it's called the "ultimate sin." You defend their honor and remind people you don't even know that to betray God is the ultimate sin. And for the survivors, for those who've lived through it, life isn't like it was; the light is and will always be just a little dimmer than before. For you've failed someone terribly, and you cannot be forgiven, for the one you've failed isn't here TO forgive.
    You hear songs like "Suicide is Painless" and realize they're talking about for the one who does it, maybe, but not for those who must live through it. Simple phrases take on new meanings, and you find yourself pulling your car over and sobbing over a song played on the radio that your loved one used to love, also.
    Survivors know what it is to read a letter by a dead man saying that you are loved. And they know what it is to scream, "Then come BACK!" And, realizing the hopelessness of it all, collapse onto the floor exhausted, making pleas with God to take you instead. . . going to sleep still trying to make the trade. Telling God you're sure your parents won't mind. . . take me, I'll go.
    Survivors know that no matter what, they must be strong and not do what's been done to them. My parents have only one child now, and I cannot disappoint them. Even though I'm sure he wants me with him, he needs me to show him which line to get into, I cannot go. We were never apart, even in the womb; together always, everyone said. And when I go to the phone and have the number already punched in before I remember he won't be answering, it just. . . you know, it still brings me to my knees and I picture him smiling at me self-assured and so THERE for me and now that he's not I just, I wonder if he realized that he wasn't only killing himself that day, he was killing us both.
    My twin's suicide note requested that "Let it Be" be the only tune at his funeral, and it was. Now when I hear it, those first haunting chords take my breath away and I'm filled with a passion that's rage and disdain and the most terrible sense of loneliness I've ever known. And McCartney can sing as he will long and loud, but there never will be an answer, the unfairness of it is riveting.
    And there's a reason I won't read the replies to this question. I don't believe anyone could know what that's like. . . what it's like to wonder, to never know what those last moments were like, and to wonder how much of it was your fault. Wondering if maybe he changed his mind before it was over, when it was too late. These are the things nightmares are made of. Living with that isn't living at all, but surviving, which is more than he could manage.
    If anything not horrific came from this, you find yourself being kind to people you don't even know, so afraid they're on their last legs and if you say a wrong thing it'll be the last thing they'll hear. You overcompensate with everyone you meet, and you're to get over on. You refuse to contribute to another death, so you do for people much more than you should for the comfort of knowing if they go, it wasn't something you did or said. You're covering yourself.
    Suicide isn't cowardice, it's nowhere near that. It's terrible and it's cruel but the victim wasn't a coward, they were a loved one. They were someone we let down, someone we wish we could've helped, someone I'd never allow to be called names, "coward" included. The notion that, even in death, they are being indicted, the subject of name-calling brings on a ridiculous notion to defend them, even while they're not even here. "There'll be no name-calling," you
    tell them, ridiculously, lucky not to hear their chuckling.
    You answer questions like this one and then forget they ever were and hope anyone reading takes away from it not that you are mad but the message that there are no do-overs. Love and apathy and compassion are for the living, and we must show these to those we love, especially when it's hardest to love them. For we never really get a do-over, and when the end result takes their life, the realization that it is you and not them that is the victim of the suicide becomes painfully clear.
    Be good to those you love, and when it's hard to do that, be even better. Life is precious, with no second chances to say what we know we should. It could mean everything. I can't gain a thing by telling you so, but you could gain so much by hearing it.
    "And when the night is cloudy
    There is still a light that shines on me.
    Shine until tomorrow, let it be." (P.McCartney)
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  • Arleen tonnie 2007/08/13 23:38:49
    Arleen
    Tonnie, I know, but I don't know, I have been there, but I was not there with you.
    All situations are different.
    I can only tell you to wrap yourself in the arms of your family and your friends, talk to them about your twin brother as often as you want do not hold back. Someday you will find that you actually had a happy memory--share that right away with your loved ones and hopefully you all will share a giggle and a tear and it will get a bit better from there.
    I wish you Peace, Love and compassion
  • Michael V 2007/05/20 14:18:51
    No
    Michael V
    I can understand how people might think that someone that commits suicide is a coward, but that is absolutely not the case. Rational thought and cowardice are apples and oranges in this situation. You are not processing thought as you would under normal conditions.
    If you have never been in their position you cannot possibly know the pain that they experience or what their thought process is. Believe me, if I would not have gone through it I never would have understood either.
    You can’t explain it to someone that has not been there…
    …but you wouldn’t wish it on your worst enemy!
  • oy 2007/05/18 17:29:29
    No
    oy
    Most just don't see a way out. First you have to try and feel so low/bad that you can't even fathom what your life would be like in say 5 minutes, then you can begin to understand why someone would take their own life.
  • Loligrl 2007/05/15 03:10:53
    Yes
    Loligrl
    +1
    Suicide is cowardly. Even though you feel that way, your life means the world to someone. You have a purpose. And fyi, time doesn't heal all wounds. When I was 5 or 6 my mother swallowed a handful of Valium. They were able to save her life but I still have the memories of going to see her in the hospital, and I still have issues with getting close to people because I know that I'll just lose them. The thing is life is full of options, including suicide, but that should be the last thing you try.
  • Michael V Loligrl 2007/05/20 14:32:04
    Michael V
    You’re right. Suicide shouldn’t be a viable option but people that attempt it do not think rationally. I have a very good friend that committed suicide. You have to know this man. Through all of his life he inspired so many people. He would never intentionally hurt anyone, yet his family is so crushed.
    I am sorry for your pain. Although it may seem very trite for me to say, I hope that your experience will help another. I pray that it will. I mean that with all of my heart! You are in my prayers.
  • Ginny 2007/05/14 20:59:23
    No
    Ginny
    Confused, depressed, young and totally mixed up or sick and in constant pain...it would take alot to actually take your own life...unless there are drugs and or alcohol involved, then it might be easier because the person is not truly thinking straight. Cowardly no selfish yes!
  • Magzilla 2007/05/14 17:23:52
    No
    Magzilla
    Killing yourself isn't easy.
  • debra 2007/05/14 14:27:35
    Yes
    debra
    +3
    HOW SELFISH...I HAVE LIVED THROUGH SEVERAL SUICIDES IN MY LIFE AND IT NEVER STOPS HURTING..SUICIDE IS HURTING THOSE YOU LOVE FOREVER....WE WONDER WHAT WE DID TO CAUSE THIS..THOSE WHO DO THIS NEED TO LET SOMEONE KNOW HOW THEY ARE FEELING AND THERE IS HELP..IF THERE IS NO ONE TO TALK TO THEN TALK TO GOD...GO TO A CHURCH ANYTHING BUT KILL YOUR SELF!!!
  • LPE 2007/05/14 13:55:34
    No
    LPE
    No. What an awful, desparate choice to make. Ultimately it is harder on those left behind though.
  • fatal 2007/05/14 13:15:58
  • Hank 2007/05/14 12:03:04 (edited)
    No
    Hank
    +2
    Not cowards, however, I have had to make notifications on suicide deaths as well as accidental and natural deaths. I have the "luxury" of looking at the suicide, not as a family member or close friend in these instances. What I have observed, in most, is the act of suicide seems to be the ultimate act of selfishness. Many of those left behind suffer all sorts of unanswered questions, "did I do something to cause this, did I not do something that could have prevented" and the list goes on and on. I also believe most suicides are committed by very troubled and or very sick people. Labeling them cowards or quitters or whatever serves no useful purpose. I strongly encourage any one who is comtemplating harming themselves or taking their life to get help immediately and continue to seek out those persons who would steer them away from self-destruction. I know many will tell you "time heals everything" .....NOT true, trust me on this. Somethings get "easier" or bearable with time and help from others, but getting "all better"..??
  • Juli 2007/05/14 07:44:11
    No
    Juli
    +1
    No, but if you need help, you need to get it now! Can we help??
  • Melissa 2007/05/14 04:30:11
    No
    Melissa
    IF YOU ARE SO DEPRESSED, ENOUGH TO TAKE YOUR OWN LIFE, I THINK YOU NEED HELP. ITS NOT BEING A COWARD IT IS SOME ONE WHO HAS SERIOUS PHYSCOLOGICAL PROBLEMS AND NEEDS MENTAL HELP.
  • #1Misty 2007/05/14 04:16:00
    No
    #1Misty
    never. If I was that depressed I would have to seek out my Dr.
  • True~Male 2007/05/14 03:39:47
    No
    True~Male
    I THINK THEY ARE CONFUSED AND NEEDED HELP

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