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sarah 2012/09/24 11:33:12
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I hear some Christians say this about the USA and I've heard some Muslims say this about Indonesia after that nations tsunami..

The lifestyle and actions of the citizens has caused the wrath of God to come upon them
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  • Transquesta 2012/10/01 05:45:34 (edited)
    Undecided
    Transquesta
    +1
    I believe that He has, but not necessarily always does.

    Then, too, human beings seem to be hardwired with a kind of self destruct mechanism--so, as God was the Creator of humanity, you could say He was still indirectly involved when a nation or culture falls down and goes boom under the weight of its own depravity.

    Over all, though, I'd say God gets way too much of the blame for human thanatos.
  • oros 2012/10/01 04:53:00
    No, I do not believe that
    oros
    +1
    Thats a load of rubbish.
    Your own actions bounce back on you as is always the case, nothing lives in a vacuum.
  • evangelism_vision 2012/09/25 00:50:56
    Yes, I believe that
    evangelism_vision
    +2
    God's word even says I will bless those that bless Israel and curse those that curse israel

    God destroyed Nations because they turned away from God to worship their own gods,
  • Professor Wizard 2012/09/24 20:20:10
    No, I do not believe that
    Professor Wizard
    +1
    It depends on WHO's God you are talking about.
  • Beat Magnum True Hero 2012/09/24 17:22:13
    Yes, I believe that
    Beat Magnum True Hero
    +3
    But not today. I think it happened in the OT under the old covenant, but under the New Covenant. Eventually, the bible says that God will pour out his wrath on the whole world and start over so ultimately? Yes.
  • YeahISaidIt 2012/09/24 16:43:10
    Undecided
    YeahISaidIt
    +2
    I think we punish ourselves. Except for natural disasters.
  • ALofRI 2012/09/24 16:24:50
    No, I do not believe that
    ALofRI
    +2
    I don't even believe PEOPLE are punished by GOD. I DO believe that if he WERE to punish, he would start with the huge number of religious Hypocrites and radicals!
  • Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning 2012/09/24 16:24:09
    Yes, I believe that
    Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning
    +2
    Why ask opinions when you can go to the scriptures and read for yourself? Everyone is a free moral agent and can choose to do good or evil. Deuteronomy c.28 starts off with pronounced blessings on those that do good and then follows with curses for those that do evil; individual and national. You can look at the curses and see if any of them are taking place today in America.
  • sarah Flash,a... 2012/09/24 16:42:11
    sarah
    +2
    Because it's an opinion site and I wanted peoples opinions.
  • Mungu 2012/09/24 16:18:45
    No, I do not believe that
    Mungu
    +1
    conan
    Crom, I have never prayed to you before. I have no tongue for it. No one, not even you, will remember if we were good men or bad. Why we fought, or why we died. All that matters is that two stood against many. That's what's important! Valor pleases you, Crom... so grant me one request. Grant me revenge! And if you do not listen, then to HELL with you!
  • POWERSHAKER 2012/09/24 14:21:03
  • BHGOzzy POWERSH... 2012/09/24 16:54:32
    BHGOzzy
    +4
    Pat Robertson of course! Especially when he's off his senior pills again.
  • POWERSH... BHGOzzy 2012/09/24 22:36:16
  • Metaldane 2012/09/24 14:14:36
    No, I do not believe that
    Metaldane
    +3
    If a god or (and this would be a little more likely) gods exist (I personally don't think they do) then they'd be a total prejudicial prick I mean seriously? Killing hundreds or thousands of people because some o them live a lifestyle you don't agree with? sounds like a dictator to me.
  • sarah Metaldane 2012/09/24 16:47:12
    sarah
    +2
    It is a dictatorship, yes I know the argument "we have free will" but if we do not abide by the teachings we won't enter heaven, or at least that is what I was taught in Sunday school.
  • Metaldane sarah 2012/09/24 16:59:18
    Metaldane
    +1
    And in my opinion that religion imposes some very out of date prejudicial rules that should've been dropped long ago even regular society has moved faster then them in showing acceptance and tolerance.
  • ALofRI Metaldane 2012/09/24 17:06:30
    ALofRI
    +3
    Belief in a cruel god makes a cruel man.
  • Metaldane ALofRI 2012/09/24 17:54:27
    Metaldane
    +1
    Pretty much
  • Transqu... ALofRI 2012/10/01 05:49:54
    Transquesta
    You can tell a lot about the nature of a person's character by the kind of God they choose to worship. Those who choose to worship a loving God are generally OK whereas those who believe in sadists you might wanna watch. :-)
  • Bingo's Faddah 2012/09/24 14:05:48
    No, I do not believe that
    Bingo's Faddah
    +3
    No way. I feel that God watches humanity make damn fools of itself; over and over again!
  • SJG 2012/09/24 13:55:37
    No, I do not believe that
    SJG
    +3
    NO, because there is NO GOD!
  • Clay Slayer 2012/09/24 13:40:06
    No, I do not believe that
    Clay Slayer
    +4
    What God would go about punishing innocent people,?, only a Lunatic one. LMAO
  • Lady Whitewolf 2012/09/24 13:32:35
    No, I do not believe that
    Lady Whitewolf
    +2
    he can keep his "punishments" TO HIMSELF, THANK you.....
  • BHGOzzy 2012/09/24 13:13:16
    No, I do not believe that
    BHGOzzy
    +3
    It'd be a pretty sick and callous deity, unworthy of worship, to do something like that so indiscriminately...

    I mean, come on. A hurricane hits a hurricane prone area during hurricane season and people blame a deity? Oh, and it gets better, if ONE child survives against all odds in a really bad incident, then it's a "MIRACLE". One survivor out of hundreds does not a miracle make, even if the survivor is effectively helpless. ESPECIALLY if said survivor was just orphaned by the incident.

    Again, that's a pretty cruel and callous deity that would do something like that.
  • Clay Sl... BHGOzzy 2012/09/24 13:41:46
    Clay Slayer
    +2
    Yea! I love it when some christian pipes up and says the one surviver of a plane crash where 299 people die had god with him... What about the other poor 299, that god was a Lunatic...
  • sarah Clay Sl... 2012/09/24 16:52:06
    sarah
    +2
    especially when those injured or killed are children
  • Clay Sl... sarah 2012/09/24 17:03:52
    Clay Slayer
    +2
    OH! but dont you know they are in a better place.... LOL.....No they are dead...
  • BHGOzzy Clay Sl... 2012/09/24 16:53:35
    BHGOzzy
    You know exactly what the excuse would be (and has often been) "Well, God just had other plans for them"

    Yeah, plans that involved horrible high speed death.
  • sarah BHGOzzy 2012/09/24 16:59:53
    sarah
    +1
    Yep, that's what the excuse would be and I guess having limbs blown off from land mines or other injuries caused by man made or natural disasters are part of his plan too. Seems more like child abuse to me.
  • BHGOzzy sarah 2012/09/24 17:02:39
    BHGOzzy
    +1
    Any parent would would willfully harm their children is not a parent worthy of having children, especially any parent who would tell one child to murder another and call it a moral act simply on the basis that they told their child to do it.

    No parent would send their child to die for a mistake THEY made.

    Yahweh in NT or OT, is a monster and unworthy of worship.
  • Clay Sl... BHGOzzy 2012/09/24 17:04:57
    Clay Slayer
    +1
    And if Jesus was a god, then it couldnt die,, so the entire story is BS...
  • BHGOzzy Clay Sl... 2012/09/24 17:07:05
    BHGOzzy
    and contradictory since the first accounts of the event don't include the resurrection but later ones do.
  • Clay Sl... BHGOzzy 2012/09/24 21:47:12
    Clay Slayer
    +1
    Borrowed stories of other gods before this one... Reruns with different names....
  • sockpuppet 2012/09/24 12:40:36
    No, I do not believe that
    sockpuppet
    +7
    People use religion to support all their oddball theories.
  • Bec. sockpuppet 2012/09/24 13:50:13
    Bec.
    +2
    Indeed.

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