Do you have a different political ideal to that as what you see as politically attainable?

by Cunning Stunts Posted 2012/07/04 14:06:40

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TheCouchF*cker 2012/07/05 06:17:28

Yes. Here's my two bob's worth

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I'm an Individualist Anarchist. It's not happening, but that's not the point.

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Cunning... to TheCouc... 2012/07/06 17:55:19

Are you an apathetic anarchist or an idealist anarchist?

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TheCouc... to Cunning... 2012/07/06 18:03:12 (edited)

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Apathetic would be the most applicable between the two. Like I said, it's not happening. It's about not giving moral and intellectual support to a system of violence, coercion and deception run by incompetent opportunists who only care about maintaining their power and privilege.

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Cunning... to TheCouc... 2012/07/06 19:06:54

Good point.

In a "more transparent" world what would your existing or theorised political system be?

I assume you agree that consent based laws are important.

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TheCouc... to Cunning... 2012/07/06 19:09:11

"In a "more transparent" world what would your existing or theorised political system be?"

None. No government. Anarchy.

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skroehr 2012/07/04 22:45:50

Yes. Here's my two bob's worth

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It's a thing called Distributism, and had as it's biggest proponents a Pope, and two 19th Century English writers. (Chesterton and Belloc). It's pretty complicated to explain, but it's certainly worth a Google, if you're interested. I believe it would work. But where to start? It's not likely to happen anywhere in my life time. We might be able to get it on the stage in another 20 years or so. But people seem to feel locked in to Dems and Republicans.

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Cunning... to skroehr 2012/07/06 17:54:42

I just lost my job so next week I'll have plenty of reading time. Thanks for the references.

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rand 2012/07/04 18:40:51

No. Here's my two bob's worth

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I'm an old Goldwater Republican fiscal conservative pragmatic. I believe a benevolent utilitarian approach to society is attainable as the voting populace becomes educated enough to quit living in denial of science. Will I live to see it? No chance.

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Cunning... to rand 2012/07/06 17:53:56

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Can you give me some articles that describe if only in outline your political ideals?

In your blurb you read like a moderate Liberation, correct me if I'm wrong.

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rand to Cunning... 2012/07/06 19:24:53 (edited)

:Hmmm. I guess "The Open Society and Its Enemies" is closest to my political vein, though I wouldn't call it an ideal. Pragmatism and Idealism mix only to the degree that the latter is willing and able to flex. I retain some of Barry's Libertarian ideas because the least government IS the best government... which means it operates efficaciously... offering the taxpayer the best bang for the buck. The Libertarian "ideal" has never been implemented in history and it never will be. I read all sides and have no "articles". I find Zakaria's GPS the most educational political program.

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♒ßεllεchεvεllε®♒ 2012/07/04 17:46:16 (edited)

Yes. Here's my two bob's worth

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I would like for self-serving, instant gratification fans (both dems and repubs) to think beyond THEIR immediate needs and try to see the ripple effect and long term effects of all the crap they have voted in for the past 50 years. I'm pretty sick of all the bitching and complaining about how crappy things have gotten when THEY voted the crooks in and got exactly what they asked for.

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Cunning... to ♒ßεllεc... 2012/07/06 17:50:33

The funny thing about that statement is that it probably means something different to me as it does you or anybody else.

A good sentiment though.

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Cunning... to Cunning... 2012/07/06 17:51:45

Song sounds a bit like Sinnead Oconnor.

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HarleyCharley 2012/07/04 17:32:49

Undecided

WTF.....

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Joe61 2012/07/04 17:22:01 (edited)

No. Here's my two bob's worth

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Power corrupts and Ultimate power kills.

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Cunning... to Joe61 2012/07/06 17:46:49

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a Brit, maybe you have a similar scenario.

Do you find that whatever party wins that initially they appeal to the centre though as successive terms go by the fringe comes out to play, be it left or right?

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Joe61 to Cunning... 2012/07/06 20:43:08 (edited)

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Yes once the power has been tasted no matter the ideals in the begining.....Power takes over and the Government by the people for the people, flies out the window!

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Cunning... to Cunning... 2012/07/06 20:50:49

Wondering what your take on Thatcher was?

She seemed a good leader when it came to international faire though she seemed a bit like a "Femanazi". I'm sure the sexism was stacked against he3r and she over compensated some though she seemed brutal at times e.g The Falklands conflict.

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BobbyOdd 2012/07/04 16:58:43

Yes. Here's my two bob's worth

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I am a conservative, yet I want pot legalized and taxed.

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rand to BobbyOdd 2012/07/04 18:43:06

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How could any society have endured "Prohibition" and have learned so little as to try and make the consumption of a common weed illegal? We need to include "critical thinking skills" as an aspect of the curriculum in public schools.

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Cunning... to BobbyOdd 2012/07/06 17:44:58

Just curious. Are you generally a fiscal or social conservative or both?

No judgement here, I'm an alcoholic.

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BobbyOdd to Cunning... 2012/07/06 22:24:59

i am both.

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Truth Matters 2012/07/04 15:11:22

None of the above

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A benevolent dictatorship would be optimal. It will never happen.
No human can be trusted as the benevolent dictator

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rand to Truth M... 2012/07/04 18:45:20

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There have been historically some successful benevolent dictators (am currently reading "Asoka") like Marcus Aurelius (maybe not so nice to Christians however). The problem seems to be their spoiled children, like Caligula.

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Cunning... to rand 2012/07/06 17:43:26

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A definite research venture. Tnx,

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rand to Cunning... 2012/07/06 19:28:06

I think I erred in the last blog. Commodus was, if memory serves, Aurelius's son... even if spawned by his wife's purported gladiator lover.

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Cunning... to Truth M... 2012/07/06 17:43:39

Star Wars Episode 2.

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Sister Jean 2012/07/04 14:20:18

No. Here's my two bob's worth

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no

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Cunning... to Sister ... 2012/07/06 17:42:44

KISS. Not the rock band... Keep It Simple Stupid.

Not that you're stupid. Basically, BS seems to be taking over and the basics are being neglected.

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