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Do you believe that public school education in the U.S. is declining? If so, why so?

Buster Brown 2012/03/29 15:54:28
Yes - it is definitely declining.
No.  I think the quality of public education is pretty much staying the same as its always been
I think the quality of public school education is on the rise
It depends on the State
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Throughout my professional career I have interviewed countless people applying for entry level positions, technical positions, managerial positions. I have noticed a sharp decline in grammar, spelling, etc. Many, if not most applicants have had a public school education. Some, right out of high school and many, too many, right out of colleges - can't spell and don't know the basics of grammar.

More and more, I have encountered parents who are enrolling their children in private schools. I know many people who have enrolled their children in Christian schools, Jewish Yeshivahs, Scientology schools, and have told me that it is not necessarily for the religious education, but the quality of basic education. Some have said that with the budget cuts, the quality of public education has deteriorated to such an extent, that they do not feel that their children, educated in public schools, will be prepared to enter college.

http://sickeninglyliberal.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/the-real-c...

This article says that "Americans are provided with public education, but the
quality of that education continues to decline. Education, which is the
foundation to everything needed to guarantee a country’s success, is being
systematically destroyed in America.
Education leads to progress. Education leads to innovation. Education leads to
understanding.."

http://www.hoover.org/publications/hoover-digest/article/6325



And this article: "Americans barely reach the international literacy average
set by advanced democracies, according to a report issued by the Educational
Testing Service after looking at the International Adult Literacy Survey
(IALS)....As the years go by, the United States slips down the list.
Americans educated in the sixties captured a Bronze Medal in literacy, those
schooled in the seventies got 5th place in the race. But those schooled in the
nineties ranked 14th



According to the most recent report by the National Center for Education
Statistics (NCES), private schools have enjoyed a steady increase in
enrollment, climbing by 18 percent between 1988 and 2001 — and enrollment rates
are expected to continue to rise by at least another 7 percent by 2013! Public
school enrollment rose by about the same rate (19 percent) but is expected to
continue to rise by only 4 percent."



http://richmondacademy.org/PrivateSchoolsLatestStatistics.aspx



"The growing popularity of private schools is driven primarily by the
research-backed belief that private and charter schools provide a better
education, better structure, and better discipline than public schools. The
desire to seek the best education for our children has even sparked political
movements nationwide that seek to create voucher systems enabling all families
to choose the schools their children attend, regardless of their income level
or location."

Do you believe that public education in the US is declining? Why is that and what are the alternatives?

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  • Zombie Saddam 2012/04/15 19:12:23
  • flaca BN-0 2012/04/15 18:41:03
    Undecided
    flaca BN-0
    I feel that kids today are more interested in peer groups and "chatting" with one another than they used to be. They don't seem to have "alone" time so much, and don't read books unless they're set by their school english class. Spelling and grammar are learned from reading: you instinctively pick up how sentences are phrased and how to spell words. But kids are distracted now by things we never had: video games and texting etc.
    Perhaps literacy skills won't be needed much in the future. Perhaps kids are learning technical skills that they will need for the jobs of the future, and we're worrying too much about a "problem" that isn't a problem any more. It's a very complex issue.
  • Diana 2012/04/15 01:51:07
    Yes - it is definitely declining.
    Diana
    We don't have the best teachers.I believe it's do to the unions.kids today get away with too much in school.The way they dress,too many distractions,like cell phones and ipods.
    kids need to have rules and regulations.I don't think they do.
  • irish 2012/04/10 15:12:20
    Yes - it is definitely declining.
    irish
    no thinking allowed. dees  dumbed   down
  • tom C 2012/04/10 15:08:45 (edited)
    Undecided
    tom  C
    +1
    I look at my kids ..and what they have learned in high school..and college...



    The education is there...if they want it......but most kids are not pushed to learn by their families...how many parents talk to the teachers....how many check their kids homework...to at least make sure they are trying to do it...
    We have some middle eastern immigrants at the local high school...the kids do very well...tops in their classes...and talking with the parents.....education comes first...video games do not take priority...they think most american kids are just lazy...not guided....and they are painfully...probably right..

    .I think its a parenting problem...more than a school thing...

    Kids with ZERO respect for teachers....kids who constantly disrupt classrooms,making very hard for the other kids to learn..
  • martin28 2012/04/05 04:15:48 (edited)
    Yes - it is definitely declining.
    martin28
    Because students are thirsting to learn many want to purse a career in fashion, music, or sports and although having such dreams is not a bad thing because having a positive goal is great, many may and often do ignore education in their quest for their goal. Then also, you have many teachers only becoming a teacher solely for the paycheck and nothing else.
  • Denny 2012/03/31 22:14:34
    Yes - it is definitely declining.
    Denny
    Ten years ago or so, there was a factory down in Georgia that made skin for aircraft. They came in and wanted something like 1200 employees at once and more later. They wanted to take High School Grads who could read blueprints and new Fractions. They couldn't find that many!!! Superintendent said that it wasn't High Schools job to ready kids for Jobs that was for college to do???? But the worst I saw was on Jay Lino while picking High Schoolers on the street asked one about the Alamo and she said it was King Tuts Tomb!!!.
  • ANGEL 2012/03/31 21:50:03 (edited)
    Yes - it is definitely declining.
    ANGEL
    +1
    The statistics speak for themselves. The high school graduates who can't spell - also support the fact that there is an alarming decline. can t spell
  • John Galt jr or Ron/jon 2012/03/31 19:05:57
    Yes - it is definitely declining.
    John Galt jr or Ron/jon
  • ANGEL John Ga... 2012/03/31 20:18:11 (edited)
    ANGEL
    Thank you for posting this link. I'm going to be putting up some related polls on this topic based on some of the points brought up at that site.
  • Heat Her 2012/03/30 20:02:17
    Yes - it is definitely declining.
    Heat Her
    When I went to school you either studied, or repeated that grade. You learned quickly that you did not want to repeat a grade and fall out of touch with your peers. That is no longer the case.

    When I went to school, we were taught songs and skits to put on holiday performances in front of the entire school as well as the parents. This taught us how to speak publicly and also taught us about different cultures throughout the world. This is no longer the case as many schools have abandoned programs all together or risk offending the easily offended. My son will be in second grade soon and has never been on stage or had to speak in front of a crowd, nor has he learned about other cultures around the world other than american and African american history.

    We learned about dinosaurs, there were 9 planets, we were allowed to have best friends, we were taught instead of pushed through the system because of a "no child left behind" law, Bullies eventually got their butts kicked and we learned how to deal with our problems ourselves.

    When I was in school the rich kids sat next to the poor kids in class and didn't pass just because daddy gave the school a donation. They worked just as hard as we did.

    When I was in school my teacher lite a cigarette, in class, and stuck it into ...

    When I went to school you either studied, or repeated that grade. You learned quickly that you did not want to repeat a grade and fall out of touch with your peers. That is no longer the case.

    When I went to school, we were taught songs and skits to put on holiday performances in front of the entire school as well as the parents. This taught us how to speak publicly and also taught us about different cultures throughout the world. This is no longer the case as many schools have abandoned programs all together or risk offending the easily offended. My son will be in second grade soon and has never been on stage or had to speak in front of a crowd, nor has he learned about other cultures around the world other than american and African american history.

    We learned about dinosaurs, there were 9 planets, we were allowed to have best friends, we were taught instead of pushed through the system because of a "no child left behind" law, Bullies eventually got their butts kicked and we learned how to deal with our problems ourselves.

    When I was in school the rich kids sat next to the poor kids in class and didn't pass just because daddy gave the school a donation. They worked just as hard as we did.

    When I was in school my teacher lite a cigarette, in class, and stuck it into a little man looking machine that smoked it so we could see what our lungs would look like afterwards. After gagging for a while, most kids decided to NEVER try one.

    The education system is failing because too many people decided to sugar coat the lives of our children instead of teaching them that, yes, we're all different, speak different, are raised different, believe in different religions, learn on different levels, some of us are smart, some of you are destined to never get it, but that's ok. Work hard, love your fellow man and make something of yourself, but you MUST work hard to get to where you want to be. Take the pacifiers out of their mouths and teach them about the world, for what it is, the way it is, and the way they need to be if they ever want to change the world.
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  • <3 Xina )O( Wolfe <3 2012/03/30 19:44:02
    It depends on the State
    <3 Xina )O( Wolfe <3
    Not even the state so much as district to district. All I know is that it's tended to go drastically downhill in the past several years where I live.
  • Jane <3 Xina... 2012/03/31 18:25:04
    Jane
    Yep, it is all about money now days. You got it your kid will get a better education.
  • Magical 2012/03/30 00:59:52
    Yes - it is definitely declining.
    Magical
    Definitely. We have dropped our standards. Teachers often can't even spell how can we expect the students to?
  • none 2012/03/29 23:06:54
    Yes - it is definitely declining.
    none
    Unions have taken over teachers and now you can't get rid of teachers that are worse than useless.
  • Kris 2012/03/29 20:43:32
    It depends on the State
    Kris
    some are some are not some are really good some are just not so good it all depends on where you are and the system and the people in the system and if they really care for the students or not...
  • 666_Maggots~I'm a female! 2012/03/29 17:58:26
    No. I think the quality of public education is pretty much staying the same ...
    666_Maggots~I'm a female!
    +2
    I'm not sure if it's just my school, but the kids involvement and attitudes are just getting worse as time goes on. I honestly don't blame the school, I blame the students.
  • kcandi 2012/03/29 17:40:32
    Yes - it is definitely declining.
    kcandi
    Less parental involvement, less discipline allowed in the classrooms, budget cuts, etc...
  • Sister Jean 2012/03/29 16:50:53
    Undecided
    Sister Jean
    some schools great sad to say they are in the better neighborhoods
  • Ozymandias Sister ... 2012/03/29 17:08:30
    Ozymandias
    xD Was this supposed to be ironic?
  • Sister ... Ozymandias 2012/03/29 20:31:25
    Sister Jean
    no
  • Magical Sister ... 2012/03/30 00:58:25
    Magical
    I think Ozy's point is that your sentence doesn't make sense. No offense, Sister, but it is poorly written. Given that the poll discusses this very subject, my guess is that he thought you were being ironic, which I can see.

    What are you trying to say?
  • Sister ... Magical 2012/03/30 21:04:15
    Sister Jean
    is this English class?
  • Bingo's Faddah 2012/03/29 16:32:02
    Yes - it is definitely declining.
    Bingo's Faddah
    +1
    That's because money that should go to education goes to politicians instead. Know any politicians effected by your economy crash? I thought not.

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