Do you believe that Prayer helps?

by BrianD3 Posted 2012/06/14 18:26:08

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	Yes	137 votes	75%
	No	32 votes	18%
	Unsure	13 votes	7%

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KrSpo 2012/06/26 19:23:19 (edited)

No

i believe that it is the power from within people that resolves problems, not praying.

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Red 2012/06/24 02:14:55
wtw 2012/06/23 03:54:55

No

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I know it helps!

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Reggie☮ 2012/06/22 13:24:29

Yes

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Yes.

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✞Knight of Honor 2012/06/22 06:20:05

Yes

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Definately

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Sue 2012/06/21 02:02:55

Yes

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I know from personal experience that prayer works.

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Swan Eshdeh 2012/06/20 13:09:59

Yes

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yes it helps .

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Jane 2012/06/20 03:33:38

Unsure

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It probably makes the person praying feel better about his self.

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elijahin24 2012/06/19 18:10:15

Yes

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It helps as much as wishing on a star, or a rabbits foot, or your lucky socks, or a magic 8 ball.

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princess 2012/06/19 07:05:11

Yes

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ABSOLUTELY.

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Starman 2012/06/19 03:50:48

No

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It has been studied scientifically and shown to have no effect.

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BrianD3 to Starman 2012/06/19 11:03:47

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shows how little "science" knows

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Starman to BrianD3 2012/06/19 17:17:32

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Science doesn't know anything, it is a method of studying the universe and drawing conclusions based on the observed facts. The facts show that prayer has no effect. Sorry, but that's the way it is.

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BrianD3 to Starman 2012/06/19 17:21:51

right....you are neither able to observe atoms nor radio waves and yet they exist

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elijahin24 to BrianD3 2012/06/19 18:11:08

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Um...we can...actually. We have ways of measuring them. Nice try, though.

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BrianD3 to elijahin24 2012/06/20 15:26:43

today, we can measure them, 100 years ago we could not. Is it your position that because we could not measure them 100 years ago that they did not exist then?

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elijahin24 to BrianD3 2012/06/20 15:36:19

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Of course they existed. And when we can observe or measure the existence of a god, I'll believe in that too.

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3003573 to BrianD3 2012/06/20 20:01:41
BrianD3 to 3003573 2012/06/20 20:13:00

great, make it 205 years ago and my argument is just fine....typical .....what is your point exactly?

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3003573 to BrianD3 2012/06/20 20:21:16
BrianD3 to 3003573 2012/06/21 10:30:50

sure, the Greeks saw atoms....

like a true atheist and liberal, you miss the point entirely and focus on the irrelevant.

MY POINT which you choose to ignore, is that we do not have to personally see something for it to exist, that things can and do exist that are beyond our personal knowledge and experience.

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3003573 to BrianD3 2012/06/21 17:38:11
BrianD3 to 3003573 2012/07/06 11:35:11

how did they KNOW the atoms existed?

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3003573 to BrianD3 2012/07/06 16:09:30
BrianD3 to 3003573 2012/07/13 11:14:26

they "knew" ,.. funny how you define knowledge

they also KNEW that the Earth was the center of the universe

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3003573 to BrianD3 2012/07/13 18:37:27
Starman to BrianD3 2012/06/19 20:00:50

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Radio waves are not in the visual spectrum, so they cannot be seen. Never the less we can observe their effects. Atoms are certainly detectable, they can be manipulated and the results observed.

The act of prayer can be observed, and even controlled. We can and have looked for effects resulting from those prayers, and none have been detected.

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BrianD3 to Starman 2012/06/20 15:25:35

100 years ago we were not able to observe or detect radio waves or atoms. Why is it that because you simply cannot "detect" something that you must assume that it does not exist. I assure you, both atoms and radio waves existed 100 years ago.

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Starman to BrianD3 2012/06/20 19:16:47

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It's not that we can't detect it, it is that there is no effect. Real believers were used in multiple studies. In one of the studies groups of sick individuals were identified, and the believers prayed for their recovery. No one prayed for the sick individuals in the control group. The study showed NOT DIFFERENCE in the recovery rates between the two groups.

As you can see it's not a matter of detecting prayer "rays" or something, it's looking to see if it had any effect, which it did not.

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BrianD3 to Starman 2012/06/20 19:31:03

so?

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Starman to BrianD3 2012/06/20 20:07:57

I guess if you pray, but don't expect it to have any effect you're good. But then what's the point?

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BrianD3 to Starman 2012/06/20 20:15:20

what was the point of such a test? If God wanted us to have faith, would not his participation in such a test ruin what he is seeking?

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3003573 to BrianD3 2012/06/20 20:05:16
BrianD3 to 3003573 2012/06/20 20:13:21

yea, I heard you the first time, what are you retarded?

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3003573 to BrianD3 2012/06/20 20:21:54
BrianD3 to 3003573 2012/06/21 10:31:18

obtuse much?

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3003573 to BrianD3 2012/06/20 19:56:26
BrianD3 to 3003573 2012/06/20 20:14:03

he and he alone unaided cannot observe those things

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3003573 to BrianD3 2012/06/20 20:32:05
Reggie☮ to Starman 2012/06/22 13:23:38

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Where did you get that info? I heard just the opposite. People were split into two groups and before and after the same type of surgeries one group was prayed for and the other group was not. Those prayed for recovered easier and faster than those not prayed for, doctors had no other explanation. It was broadcast on the national news several years ago. :)

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