Do you believe that Moral Behavior is impossible without religion, or that higher animals like mankind evolve Moral Behavior over time?
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Top Opinion
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Sister Jean 2012/08/07 20:46:02None of the above





















Secondly, "man" has always "invent(ed) his own morality" and up until the last 2000 or 3000 years it had little relationship to any religion. Lao Tzu, a Chinese philosopher who lived more than 600 years before the birth of Christianity, devised a moral code for guiding man on the proper path that was premised on one simple, and rational, rule: "Do not do to others what you would not want done to yourself." This was not a code "handed down from on high," rather it was based on the belief of a shared experience and connection fundamental to all humans.
All of the great Greek moralists and philosophers - Plato, Aris...
Secondly, "man" has always "invent(ed) his own morality" and up until the last 2000 or 3000 years it had little relationship to any religion. Lao Tzu, a Chinese philosopher who lived more than 600 years before the birth of Christianity, devised a moral code for guiding man on the proper path that was premised on one simple, and rational, rule: "Do not do to others what you would not want done to yourself." This was not a code "handed down from on high," rather it was based on the belief of a shared experience and connection fundamental to all humans.
All of the great Greek moralists and philosophers - Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, et.al. - certainly did not draw their lessons from that of their gods. On the contrary, most Greek and Roman gods were capricious, selfish, morally bankrupt and often murderous entities (not unlike the Old Testament, Hebrew god, Yaweh, who had tendencies toward infanticide, massive cultural destruction, and in some cases, outright genocide).
History is replete with moral sensibilities remarkably similar across a broad range of human cultures dating all the way back to the time of the earliest homo sapiens - and there's even some archeological evidence of moral awareness in the time of the Neanderthals.
Btw, animals do not "behave rationally," as animals do not display an ability to reason. They are instinctual creatures (humans are also but their ability to reason allows them to transcend their hardwired instincts). They do sometimes display what we like to think of as "loyalty" but that's really a function derived from training not from reasoning.
Without the ability to reason there can be no rationality, nor morality, for that matter.
Homosexuality is immoral because it is an excess of human nature and a weakness of mind - very much like alcoholism, drug addictions, and other failings.
Ignoring and disrespecting the elderly, poor, and disabled -mentally or physically - is immoral.
Don't forget my son
To include everyone
I tuck you in
Warm within
Keep you free from sin
'Til the sandman he comes
Sleep with one eye open
Gripping your pillow tight
Exit light
Enter night
Take my hand
We're off to never never-land
Something's wrong, shut the light
Heavy thoughts tonight
And they aren't of snow white
Dreams of war
Dreams of lies
Dreams of dragons fire
And of things that will bite, yeah
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A ridiculous assertion proven so by history itself. If there are any examples that disprove such an assertion, none could be more explicit than the European Crusades, the European invasion of the New World and the current crop of maniacal, Islamic jihadists.
And every example you cited was that of extremely aberrant, and even psychopathic behavior, none of which could legitimately be posed as an example of a "lame" moral code.
One doesn't need a god to treat others decently, one merely needs to understand our shared human experience and understand a single basic moral precept: treat others as you would like to be treated.
If people do not use the principal of harming others is immoral but anything that is harmless is ok then they can lable things that are harmless such as homosexuality as immoral and also lable things that are harmful such as genital mutilation ok.
further, moral behaviour is not limited to those who practice religion at all...
morals develop out of the need for society... a society can only function peacefully if the people practice peaceful ethics and morals... religion can help, but is not necessary
That doesn't prove God is real, but it gives strong evidence for the Christian view that there is a God ... and that He placed us in a unique and superior position above all other living things.
Morality doesn't require belief in God. Morality requires God.
Premise 1) Objective moral values and duties do not exist unless God exists
Premise 2) Objective moral values and duties DO exist.
Therefore, God exists.
Don't ignore and twist the argument Atheists. Try and defeat it. You can't