When my son was very small,he got into somthing.
I told him not to do it,and he did it again.
I got up, he saw me comming, and took off down the hall,further irritating me!
I chased him into his room, grabbed his arm, and "Wack"right on the diaper!
Well,it turned out his "Diaper" was FULL!
I splattered baby poop all over him,me,the wall,the,carpet,ect!
This gave me pause,and I looked up and said "OK God, I got your point"!!
I have never smacked another child since!!
Do you believe in spanking a child
Sister Jean
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DrTim 2008/04/23 20:42:04
You were not spanked because your parents were "angry" with you. You were spanked for what you had done and learned there were consequences for your actions.
I don't hate him now but when I was yo
Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Now I do not believe "spanking" was given to us for that purpose - but to each their own, and as you said to Lawnmowerman, "keep it safe".:-/
You were not spanked because your parents were "angry" with you. You were spanked for what you had done and learned there were consequences for your actions.
You were not spanked because your parents were "angry" with you. You were spanked for what you had done and learned there were/are consequences for your actions.
By mean, aggressive and angry parents.
But the reason most conservatives who are followers of God and/ or Jesus, do it because they Love their children and want them to know there are consequences to their actions. Many times stiff consequences.
Better to have those "stiff consequences" administered by a loving parent then an unloving world around them.
Proverbs 13:24
He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
Child abuse is child abuse. Justify it with scripture if that makes you feel better. I'll still just think you're abusive.
Soooooooo, how many kids do you suppose were taken out and stoned by the elders of the community?
I think that the idea that our parents had our lives in their hands persisted up to just a few years ago.
Now our children have no fear of anything. Not even the law having cast off the fear of parents and/or God for that matter.
You admitted in your post, by the way, that what spanking teaches children is fear, and not respect or discipline. And you're correct in that assessment.
Proverbs 9:10
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.
Psalm 111:10
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.
Hebrews 12: 28
Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
29For our God is a consuming fire.
1 John 4:7-8 "7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love."
There are angles to godly respect of authority of Parents and God that are taught in the home by godly parents.
Godly fear is born out of respect for the authority.
You know that your parents can be your best ally's and friends, yet you also know that they can take from you all that you have.
Just as God can.
But you cannot grasp that idea unless you have the concept taught to you while you are young and what can be take...
Proverbs 9:10
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.
Psalm 111:10
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.
Hebrews 12: 28
Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
29For our God is a consuming fire.
1 John 4:7-8 "7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love."
There are angles to godly respect of authority of Parents and God that are taught in the home by godly parents.
Godly fear is born out of respect for the authority.
You know that your parents can be your best ally's and friends, yet you also know that they can take from you all that you have.
Just as God can.
But you cannot grasp that idea unless you have the concept taught to you while you are young and what can be taken from you is not life threatening. The same with physical punishment. You can be forced to submit before you are large enough to have to get really hurt in the process.
Society will continue to deteriorate until correction is again experienced at an early age in the home and physical correction is restored as an option for the stiff necked.
As I said in my original post in this thread;
Am I for "Spanking"?
Yes and no actually.
Most children I know and knew who got "spanked" did not deserved to be hit at all.
Most of the time it is uncalled for in the least.
Most times the parents are "mad" at the kid for some indiscretion that could be handled by scolding or/and suspending some freedom or something.
The only time a child should be spanked is when the child is "in your face" refusing to do as told or refusing to acknowledge you as parent.
Not because he/ she tracked mud across the floor. you have them clean it up to the best of his/her ability. if not able ( too young) you clean it up holding the child's hand to show how it is done at the same time you clean.
Same thing with spilled milk at the table.
The response is to have them clean it up. Not wop them.
Too many kids have been hit by mad parents. If you are "mad" at your kid, go for a walk.
Pray for guidance, then after you have cooled off think it over again, what was done and what should be done about it if anything.
If you do decide on a "spanking", explain why you are administering the spanking and after ward hold the child in your arms and tell them how much you love them and hope for them to do better.
Each of these things teach us very important lessons about life and Eternity.
Sorry to see that you missed out.
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Wrong. Guess what? I raised a child without EVER punishing him. No hitting, no yelling, no time out, no taking away privileges, NOTHING. He grew up to be a wonderful person, and a very high achiever. He's respectful, hard working, and has never gotten into any kind of trouble. He finished his bachelor's degree in two years, and is at the top of his class in medical school. He's getting married next month to a delightful young lady.
Yes, it took effort and planning (and discipline on the part of my wife and I) to teach him without negative consequences, but it can be done, and it makes for a much better adjusted person.
Lazy, undisciplined and/or stupid parenting - that's what hitting your kid comes from.
Sorry it happened.
I could set up other analogies and give it a reason to not ever do because of a thing similar but I figure you get my point.
It just does not make good sense to throw away a tool that works if administered correctly because of a freak accident.
And I agreed with your premise that there are far better ways of correcting a child other then wailing the tar out of a kid because "they did something that made you mad".
Most people abuse their children that way and it does more harm then good.
It is possible to raise very well adjusted children without beating the "Hell" out of them.
But every once in a while you meet this kid that. . .
And not the flimsy ones they make today either.
My forth grade teacher could not break hers over my fingers even though she tried repeatedly.;-)