Do you believe in carrying a large caliber or small caliber gun?
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2012/07/31 13:48:10
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a large caliber does a better job if you must use it
Top Opinion
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MichaelDillon 2012/07/31 14:00:33
You should carry the largest caliber pistol that you can control safely.
For some, that's a .45, for others a 9mm, and others a .357mag, and still others a .380
It's NOT the size of the bullet kiddies, but SHOT PLACEMENT that counts.
You may go out and get the vaunted .454 Casull revolver if you like,
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(because god knows you may be carjacked by a grizzley bear)
but if you do not hit with the first shot, somebody with a 9mm is going to fill you full of holes before you can get that cannon back on target for a second shot....
And don't try to trick yourself into believeing that in a high stress / life or death situation you are going to "centerpunch" your adversary right out of a quick draw with some massive caliber handgun.....You will have had to have shot about 100,000 rounds before you are that good, and shoot almost every day to keep that skill sharp.
If you only go to the range once or twice a month.....You're not even close.
So nevermind the "size" issue. That will settle itself when you figure out what weapon allows you to fire an accurate follow-up shot within 1SECOND of the first.
And that will change the better you get, so you may start out small, and go larger.
I prefer the .45ACP, it's a nice heavy bullet of...
You should carry the largest caliber pistol that you can control safely.
For some, that's a .45, for others a 9mm, and others a .357mag, and still others a .380
It's NOT the size of the bullet kiddies, but SHOT PLACEMENT that counts.
You may go out and get the vaunted .454 Casull revolver if you like,
http://www.jasw.de/images/fre...
(because god knows you may be carjacked by a grizzley bear)
but if you do not hit with the first shot, somebody with a 9mm is going to fill you full of holes before you can get that cannon back on target for a second shot....
And don't try to trick yourself into believeing that in a high stress / life or death situation you are going to "centerpunch" your adversary right out of a quick draw with some massive caliber handgun.....You will have had to have shot about 100,000 rounds before you are that good, and shoot almost every day to keep that skill sharp.
If you only go to the range once or twice a month.....You're not even close.
So nevermind the "size" issue. That will settle itself when you figure out what weapon allows you to fire an accurate follow-up shot within 1SECOND of the first.
And that will change the better you get, so you may start out small, and go larger.
I prefer the .45ACP, it's a nice heavy bullet of high caliber, moving at relatively slow speeds, so the recoil is noticable, but quite controlable in a full sized pistol. AND at the recieving end it's the equivilent of getting hit by a wrecking ball.
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I alternate between a 9mm and .40 cal for my off duty weapon.
If a gun is too big, the shooter will be inclined to not practice enough with it, and proficiency will suffer.
Weight and reliability is another consideration.
Most cops retire without ever using their gun outside the rare training session.
But when it is *NEEDED*, a gun must do the job of stopping a deadly threat well.
Personally, I believe in carrying something that's caliber designation starts with at least a 4.
Remember: In a defensive situation, the bullets job is to let a lot of warm blood out, and a lot of cool air in.
B: More shots - less space
C; Will not go through bad guy, the car behind him, and the building behind that.
d: I can carry two, in the space of one.
I did not chose "No guns for me" I own quite a few.....
Although I do have a .380 tucked away for backup.
AT home though I have a pump action shotgun
"You can't argue with a .357... well you can, but you'll end up bleeding a lot. If I had to choose just one gun to have beside me for the rest of my life, be it handgun, rifle or shotgun, I would select a .357 Magnum revolver." _Skeeter Skelton, 1988
Guys with .45's know they are right. Then guys with 9mm's know they are right. Then some guy with a .40 Smith will come along and tell them why both of them are wrong. Yet that old guy over in the corner minding his own business, the guy with the old revolver with no finish, he just shakes his head and grins to himself, as he puts another six rounds through the ten ring.
When I was 17, at a gathering of friends at the river, I met a frail and elderly man in his late 80s or early 90s, whose hands constantly shook very badly because of what he called "the palsy".
At some point, talk within the group turned to the old .38 Chief Special the old man carried and "how inaccurate a snubbed-nose is!"
He said the gun was "Accurate enough."
That got my attention, and I asked "Just how accurate, is 'accurate enough'?"
He said: "Well son, I don't rightly know . . . but I'll bet $20, that at 25 feet, I can shoot through the mouth of a Coke bottle, and blow the bottom out, without touching the mouth of the bottle." (Coke bottles were glass back then.)
WELL! This certainly sounded like an easy bet!
While the distance wasn't that great, the target was relatively small and totally unforgiving. Just a slight bit off on this nickel size target, and it would be obvious to the world.
But the *REAL* "ace in the hole" was "the palsy" which made his hand shake so that the barrel would transverse over a 7 or 8 FOOT area at that short distance.
It took a while to set the bottle to a height that satisfied him, to mark off the distance, adjust the bottle to ...
When I was 17, at a gathering of friends at the river, I met a frail and elderly man in his late 80s or early 90s, whose hands constantly shook very badly because of what he called "the palsy".
At some point, talk within the group turned to the old .38 Chief Special the old man carried and "how inaccurate a snubbed-nose is!"
He said the gun was "Accurate enough."
That got my attention, and I asked "Just how accurate, is 'accurate enough'?"
He said: "Well son, I don't rightly know . . . but I'll bet $20, that at 25 feet, I can shoot through the mouth of a Coke bottle, and blow the bottom out, without touching the mouth of the bottle." (Coke bottles were glass back then.)
WELL! This certainly sounded like an easy bet!
While the distance wasn't that great, the target was relatively small and totally unforgiving. Just a slight bit off on this nickel size target, and it would be obvious to the world.
But the *REAL* "ace in the hole" was "the palsy" which made his hand shake so that the barrel would transverse over a 7 or 8 FOOT area at that short distance.
It took a while to set the bottle to a height that satisfied him, to mark off the distance, adjust the bottle to suit him, and listen to his asking me "Are you sure you don't want to call off the bet? $20 is a lot of money, and I feel bad about taking a young man's money so easy." (Yeah, I knew it was "trash talk" to make me doubt myself, and get a ribbing when I backed out. Or maybe he was just trying to gracefully back-out of a bet that his exaggeration had gotten him into, that he knew he just couldn't win.)
But I assured him: "It'll be worth $20, just to see such a fine shot!" I said without even a smirk, totally deadpan, just like I fully expected it to happen.
Holding the little gun in his shaking hand, he gave me one last chance to cancel the bet, I insisted, he raised the gun up single-handed to chest-level and fired.
The violent shaking of his hand never paused, as the bottom of the bottle flew out: Just as he'd bet it would.
To say that I was stunned would have been a massive understatement!
But my great-uncle, source of many of my "old sayings" said: "Never bet on another man's game. If he'll bet on it, he has a way to *MAKE IT* happen." Lesson 1.
Lesson 2: A snubbed-nose .38, is "accurate enough".
This guy was trying to zero in his new scoped .243 using 6'' paper pie plates for targets. When a periodic cease fire was called, this guy went down range after wasting a box of his ammo on his plates. When he came back he just packed up his gear and left without a word. A guy shooting next to me was also down range and went over to the other guy's plates, snatched one of 'em down and brought it back to me and said, "Well you may as well shoot the rest of his targets 'cuz the only holes in them are from his staple gun.'' then he dropped the plate he brought back in front of me perforated with ten rounds of .22s from my Buck Mark and six rounds of .45s from my 4 5/8'' barreled Blackhawk. I still have the plate stapled to the wall in my shop.
Embarrassing him, and him with his shiny new rifle and all!
(Good job!)
Like you did.(Wasn't that SWEET?)
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