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Do you believe in an eye-for-an-eye?

ANGEL 2012/04/19 14:08:50
Yes - always
It depends on what was done to me.
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When you are wronged, do you feel the need for revenge or can you just let it go?

We've all been wronged - whether we've been stabbed in the back, cheated in a business transaction or cheated on in a relationship, betrayed by a friend, etc.

Those that do us wrong can be of any religious or political orientation - democrats, libertarians, republicans, involved in Christianity, Atheism, Scientology, Muslim, Agnostic.
However, how you respond when you've been wronged, may be according to the dictates of your religion. Apparently, the bible asks that you forgive those that have wronged you -- but it may be easier said than done.

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  • justnotsaying (: 2012/05/06 07:10:06
    It depends on what was done to me.
    justnotsaying (:
    Most things I can let go, but there are times when you have to strike back.
  • Ali ~ In My Heart I Trust ~ 2012/04/30 02:45:03
    No
    Ali ~ In My Heart I Trust ~
    No. In fact, the search for vengeance is destructive to one's heart and mind and soul.
  • Maria 2012/04/30 01:36:00
    It depends on what was done to me.
    Maria
  • niviongo R ☮ P ☮ 12-20 2012/04/27 02:29:59
    No
    niviongo R ☮ P ☮ 12-20
    Only in Spanish.
    Ay! Ay!, Ay!
  • KarenInKenoshaWisconsin 2012/04/22 23:00:12
    Other thoughts...
    KarenInKenoshaWisconsin
    +1
    I'm not into revenge. It's far more fruitful and interesting to go on with my life and leave idiots and toxic units behind. That being said, I do believe in consequences, I just don't believe I'm judge, trial and jury. I'm more likely to let trained professionals deal with people than be driven to revenge. I also think people generally do a better job at hanging themselves with their own ropes, so to speak, than anything I can could dream up to do to them.
  • t.eliot, topbard 2012/04/20 21:54:52
    No
    t.eliot, topbard
    It's very short-sighted.
  • **StarzAbove** 2012/04/19 22:35:24
    No
    **StarzAbove**
    +2
    I usually let it go.
  • EdVenture 2012/04/19 21:36:11 (edited)
    Yes - always
    EdVenture
    In the context of fairness and resolution
  • Kalayaan 001 2012/04/19 21:24:34 (edited)
    It depends on what was done to me.
    Kalayaan 001
    +1
    I do agree with the principle of "an eye for an eye", but that concept seems quite different from what most think of when they hear the phrase.

    The concept in the תּוֹרָה ("Torah") calls for the pursuit of justice via proportional retaliation, which was not common in the region during the time of its divine legislation. So, those who suffered a bodily injury from an attack had the option of retaliation... but only until the same (or equivalent) damage was done. Then, the right to retaliation ends. This principle applies to damages from light injuries to murder. (While I probably will not use the right, it seems best to still have that option open, just in case.)

    As can be seen, this Biblical principle is very different from the ancient right of "ubusan ng lahi" ("depletion of the lineage") in my country: If you murder 1 member of my family, I would have the right murdering the murderer's mother, father, brother(s), sister(s), son(s), daughter(s), cousins, uncles, aunts, nephews, nieces, grandmothers, grandfathers... For 1 death, I can basically exterminate the murderer's entire clan! Thank God ubusan ng lahi is illegal now.
  • ANGEL Kalayaa... 2012/04/20 02:05:39
    ANGEL
    +1
    I was appalled to read that - but relieved that it is no longer legal! Thank you for the history lesson. Very interesting.
  • Ray the Dog! 2012/04/19 20:12:49
    Yes - always
    Ray the Dog!
    Savage?Probably .But that is what I believe-and always will....
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾ 2012/04/19 20:09:50
    No
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +4
    an Eye for an Eye leaves the whole world Blind
  • rand 2012/04/19 20:01:24
    Other thoughts...
    rand
    From a state's perspective, tit for tat is the most productive strategy. IF I can avoid an offender, I'll just let it go; otherwise, if a demonstration of forgiving kindness doesn't work,
    I will practice retaliation as a pragmatic matter.
  • Ian 2012/04/19 19:42:01
    Other thoughts...
    Ian
    +1
    I like pie
  • Andy Fletcher 2012/04/19 18:31:40
    It depends on what was done to me.
    Andy Fletcher
    +1
    It just depends. Revenge is generally fruitless, but sometimes justice must be served one way or another.
  • sjalan 2012/04/19 18:25:30
    Other thoughts...
    sjalan
    +3
    Well Jesus said "turn the other cheek"
  • Prime T... sjalan 2012/04/19 19:17:39
    Prime Time Lime
    +1
    Also I do not think that Jesus would seek revenge on anyone. I think the person that first coined this phrase was a fool.
  • rand sjalan 2012/04/19 20:03:41
    rand
    How many times?

    His New Testament attempt to eradicate vengeful thinking. The Old and New Testaments cannot be reconciled.
  • sjalan rand 2012/04/20 00:17:00
    sjalan
    +1
    Actually, the Old and New Testaments don't need to be reconciled. Why? Rather simple. The applicability of the Old Testament ended when Jesus was killed by the Jews. That simple. The Jews were no longer the "choosen people" of the God of the Old Testament.

    As a result the Mosiac Law Code was null and void. There were just two commands made to replace them. Love God with your whole heart,etc. and Love thy neighbor as thy self. Those were it. Those that followed Jesus were given a duty to spread the "Good News of Gods Kingdom" which brought with it the "Hope of the Resurrection"

    Really pretty simple when you put all the pieces together from the different parts of the Bible.

    But again, that is what the Bible says, Not necessarily what Christendom teaches.
  • rand sjalan 2012/04/20 21:14:01
    rand
    I think most "Christians" try to reconcile the testaments; but not me.
    Except for the "kingdom of heaven" part, I'm in agreement. As a philosophic Christian I pay more attention to "The Gospel According to Jesus", "The Gospel of Thomas", and the interpretations of Jefferson and Spinoza. Best wishes to you!
  • sjalan rand 2012/04/20 21:23:33
    sjalan
    +1
    Have a safe and peaceful Earth Day.
  • t.eliot... sjalan 2012/04/20 21:56:40
    t.eliot, topbard
    If this is so, why do fundamentalist Christians back Israel so hard?
  • sjalan t.eliot... 2012/04/20 22:53:31
    sjalan
    Because Fundamentalist Christendom is a false religion. That too is rather simple. Christendom is fully involved in the politics of this world and as such are disobeying the commands that Jesus gave and not following his examples.
  • Jim in SC 2012/04/19 18:17:05
    Other thoughts...
    Jim in SC
    +3
    Here's my take. First off, I will state that I do believe in the "eye for an eye" statement, but let me set that in context.

    Basically, "eye for an eye" means that the punishment should fit the crime. If someone steals/causes damage, what was stolen or lost should be repaid. If one murders, their own life is forfeit. This would eliminate things like a person being sentenced to life in prison for stealing a loaf of bread. So I do think that is a very valid concept for a judicial system.

    Regarding how it plays out in my life, justice is not mine to obtain on a personal level. The new testament tells me "Vengeance is mine, I will repay says the Lord", meaning as a follower of Jesus, I should not seek revenge on someone when I am wronged. Further, Jesus taught directly that we are to turn the other cheek. Finally, as a last and greatest application, in the Christian gospel I find that I myself am the recipient of far more mercy than I could ever imagine. In that context, I should be able and willing to forgive any wrong perpetrated upon me, because that wrong against me, no matter how harsh it appears to us, is nothing compared to any wrong I have perpetrated against the infinitely holy creator of the universe. I have been forgiven of so much, I should be compelled to ...

    Here's my take. First off, I will state that I do believe in the "eye for an eye" statement, but let me set that in context.

    Basically, "eye for an eye" means that the punishment should fit the crime. If someone steals/causes damage, what was stolen or lost should be repaid. If one murders, their own life is forfeit. This would eliminate things like a person being sentenced to life in prison for stealing a loaf of bread. So I do think that is a very valid concept for a judicial system.

    Regarding how it plays out in my life, justice is not mine to obtain on a personal level. The new testament tells me "Vengeance is mine, I will repay says the Lord", meaning as a follower of Jesus, I should not seek revenge on someone when I am wronged. Further, Jesus taught directly that we are to turn the other cheek. Finally, as a last and greatest application, in the Christian gospel I find that I myself am the recipient of far more mercy than I could ever imagine. In that context, I should be able and willing to forgive any wrong perpetrated upon me, because that wrong against me, no matter how harsh it appears to us, is nothing compared to any wrong I have perpetrated against the infinitely holy creator of the universe. I have been forgiven of so much, I should be compelled to forgive any wrong done to me. I believe this is the meaning of Jesus' parable about the man who was forgiven of a debt equivalent to billions of dollars in our world, yet refused to forgive someone else who owed him a mere $100. Any one of us should be appalled at such a disparity. If I hold an offense against me, refusing to forgive, then I am essentially setting myself up as being holier or greater than God, since he has forgiven me of far greater offenses.

    Sorry for being long winded. Let me know if anything above is unclear.
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  • ANGEL Jim in SC 2012/04/20 02:03:41
    ANGEL
    +1
    When a response is so well stated and makes good sense, it can never be too long winded. I'll reserve an entire page for you on my polls if you need it, Jim.
  • Jim in SC ANGEL 2012/04/20 02:38:13
    Jim in SC
    +1
    Thanks so much for your kind words. You are most gracious. It's kind of a running joke with me and my friends that I have a knack for making a short story long, and a long story even longer.

    Take care.
  • ANGEL Jim in SC 2012/04/20 13:33:32
    ANGEL
    +1
    That is funny. I may use that, as my son is the same way. He'll think I am very clever.
  • ⚜3rd Street Boss⚜ 2012/04/19 17:19:04
    It depends on what was done to me.
    ⚜3rd Street Boss⚜
    +1
    I feel that ache for vengeance sometimes.. very strong at points
  • Prime Time Lime 2012/04/19 17:14:22 (edited)
    No
    Prime Time Lime
    +2
    I agree with Mahatma Gandhi .He says "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." One has to consider the bad karma that can come from revenge.
  • Lady Whitewolf 2012/04/19 17:14:08
    Other thoughts...
    Lady Whitewolf
    +3
    "Turning the other cheek only results in getting bruises on both sides of your face..."

    Old Klingon saying
  • David 2012/04/19 16:47:07
    Other thoughts...
    David
    +1
    Aye, but not if it is my eye!
  • D D 2012/04/19 15:59:59
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    D D
    +2
    I do feel people should not get away with the things they do. Maybe not literally eye for an eye but for sure what they deserve. I think people who get needle or gas are getting it too easy. no suffering like their victims. And then these atheist liberal progressive democrats don't even want them to lose their life after committing horrific crimes. If they don't pay for their crimes here they have completely gotten off with murder because the atheist liberal progressive democrats don't believe in an afterlife!!! No thought for the victims and the atrocities against them.
  • stevmackey 2012/04/19 15:40:39
    It depends on what was done to me.
    stevmackey
    +1
    Some responses can land you in jail. It pays to use discretion. After cooling down, sometimes the reason will go away.
  • JohnT 2012/04/19 15:13:43
    No
    JohnT
    +2
    Carrying around all the ill feelings about someone is too much baggage. The majority of time I let it go, because life is too short to worry about jerks. I look at this way if I am going to stay angry that person owns my anger, if I let it go than I own my feelings. I am not christian so that is not involved, If the situation is serious the matter will be taken care of immediately no wait no muss, no fuss, situation will be settled.
  • ANGEL JohnT 2012/04/20 02:10:51
    ANGEL
    +1
    Love the first part of your answer - but wasn't certain what you were advocating in your last sentence regarding "the matter will be taken care of". I checked to see if you were from N.J. or NY but your profile doesn't specify. (LOL)
  • JohnT ANGEL 2012/04/22 00:48:48
    JohnT
    Nothing violent, that solves nothing. I meant I would address it with the person, so we could work it out or agree to disagree and move on in life. I could have stated that better thanks for the input
  • Freeranger 2012/04/19 15:02:50
    It depends on what was done to me.
    Freeranger
    +2
    Secondly, you really have to take in to consideration the cards life has dealt you on that particular day. Just as no two days are the same, your reaction will vary, I suspect, based on the day you'd been having, right?
  • Wayne TH G 333 2012/04/19 14:56:06
    It depends on what was done to me.
    Wayne TH G 333
    +1
    Not in the literal meaning but people need punishing in some way.
  • Chris- Demon of the PHAET 2012/04/19 14:50:03
    No
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +3
    An eye for an eye seems too close to revenge for my taste and that is a path I choose not to take. Would I forgive someone who killed my child? No. Not ever. I believe in justice and I think we should all be held accountable for our actions, but I hope I am better than those who wronged me. (I try to be anyway.)
  • SA 2012/04/19 14:38:16
    No
    SA
    +3
    It is NOT my place to get revenge. Although it has not been easy to let things go, it is the only way to heal from the wounds that have hurt me.
    I no longer think about revenge. Much like "unforgiving" it is a heavy burden to carry.
    I have learned as much from those that have betrayed me, as those that have truly cared for me.
    Life continues. We need to learn from all our experiences, be good or bad.

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