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Do people on Sodahead often post with there minds already made up?

Eyes See Wide North 2012/06/30 05:22:59
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  • the judgebigdogeagle 2012/06/30 16:55:22
    On a regular basis, yes
    the judgebigdogeagle
    I read the question,knowing already the answer.
  • L1 2012/06/30 16:43:03
    More often than not
    L1
    +1
    Many people already have their minds made up, and won't change it. Those that allege to be open minded are not always such either. It's how people are....
  • Eyes Se... L1 2012/07/01 13:17:42
    Eyes See Wide North
    Its not how people are, its something called a childish trait that we are made to grow out of.
  • L1 Eyes Se... 2012/07/01 15:20:46
    L1
    I disagree. You have already made me seen that by posting a question on a public poll that you obviously already have the answer to, and/or your answer to it. As for children, since they are still learning they are far more open to new , different answers than adults are simply by where they are in life.

    Many people want to be right and to convince others of it., and if they don't or can't, either bear hostilities toward another or look down on them. If your question was really open ended, you wouldn't have your own answer ready already. That's leading the question.

    I have my opinion, and you, yours.

    That's all from me. Ciao.
  • Eyes Se... L1 2012/07/01 16:46:55
    Eyes See Wide North
    This Question is not an opinion question, people can have there opinion on it, but that does not change how true it is.

    I asked this question hoping to make people more aware of there flaws, hoping a few might open there eyes to there own ways and change (as much as I doubted that I would succeed).

    True that young children do not often know enough about something to have there own opinion, so they will listen to first opinion given to them by an adult and take it as fact.
    It is in the next stage of growing up that we learn to question what we know, if we dont question our own beliefs, we never grow up, simple.
    I question everything I say and do, when someone explains an opinion and makes sense, I change my opinion, because what might have been true 10 years ago, might have no relevance today.
    And when I see something with certainty, I often have to see it from a different angle to see one very small flaw.

    MY anger by the way is directed at Sodahead for asking many questions that opinions have no relevance to (such as "who talks more, Men or Women?"), I have already complained to them and as they refused to even respond (when I caught them making a contradiction) I wrote a nice letter to the American Senate.
    "Hopefully" in 2 or 3 years time this site will be banned, making way for better ones.
  • L1 Eyes Se... 2012/07/01 17:03:39
    L1
    But truth as humans define it, is subjective, and the wording of your blog poll is asking for opinions. Without a myriad of actual scientific studies from reputable sources, you cannot have a real objective answer to your question. It remains an opinion with subjective answers.

    Children are open to real learning because of their developmental stage. Adults are different and have already formed much of what they will believe throughout life whether it's environment, experiences, genetics, etc that have made them what they are. It's one stipulation to why many adults actually become more conservative as they get older.

    For me, ideally, life would be about learning, but many people simply choose not to, and you can't force anyone to change. They have to want to.

    SodaHead is a business, and allows their users a lot of freedom to to place blog polls. They can choose how much they want to control, and haven't so far. It may not be right, but that is how it is for them. People post those blog polls because they can, and SH isn't the only one who does this. Yahoo and other sites do it too. It generates traffic and business which equals money.

    There are sites that are more selective than here, and I'm sure you can find one to your liking if you seek it or perhaps create your own. In the US...

    But truth as humans define it, is subjective, and the wording of your blog poll is asking for opinions. Without a myriad of actual scientific studies from reputable sources, you cannot have a real objective answer to your question. It remains an opinion with subjective answers.

    Children are open to real learning because of their developmental stage. Adults are different and have already formed much of what they will believe throughout life whether it's environment, experiences, genetics, etc that have made them what they are. It's one stipulation to why many adults actually become more conservative as they get older.

    For me, ideally, life would be about learning, but many people simply choose not to, and you can't force anyone to change. They have to want to.

    SodaHead is a business, and allows their users a lot of freedom to to place blog polls. They can choose how much they want to control, and haven't so far. It may not be right, but that is how it is for them. People post those blog polls because they can, and SH isn't the only one who does this. Yahoo and other sites do it too. It generates traffic and business which equals money.

    There are sites that are more selective than here, and I'm sure you can find one to your liking if you seek it or perhaps create your own. In the US, because of freedom of speech ( and the press), there be few who truly wish to control their bloggers' material that much. In other words, I doubt that SH will be banned unless something really horrible happened, but then again, that's only my opinion.

    I can always be mistaken. Just like anyone else, no human being is perfect, and no one will ever be right all of the time.
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  • Radical Ed 2012/06/30 11:25:59
    More often than not
    Radical Ed
    +1
    People like to stay in their safety zone and anything changing within that is considered a bad thing. I like to stay opening minded about opinions and views expressed here, especially when they contradict my own views. But i have to say that, like everyone, i can become closed minded over things, especially when i am confronted with hostility.
  • Eyes Se... Radical Ed 2012/06/30 11:41:08
    Eyes See Wide North
    +1
    I think we met under hostile circumstances before, glad to know why xD
    I am much the same, I urge people to express themselves appropriately so that I might understand there view better, I am not closed off to anything as I have no emotional attachment to anything, if I am wrong, I just need someone to explain why I am wrong.

    Unfortunately people get frustrated, but I know a simple truth, words come easy when they are true, so if I find myself talking to somebody who ignores half my comment, only responding to parts of it, I know I am wasting my time.
  • Radical Ed Eyes Se... 2012/06/30 11:49:36
    Radical Ed
    +1
    nah, we haven't had any hostilities yet although i think that won't last - we're both very opinionated. i love the freedom of expression that the internet provides and it gives more perspective about different cultures around the world. my thought is if people are willing to discuss openly then it is worth listening and, you never know, i could change my viewpoint based on their argument.

    Indeed, the problem comes when people attempt a red herring or ignore half the post. what they are concentrating on is the things they know rather than what they don't. once that point is reached then it just turns into a YouTube argument when actual and honest discussion is impossible.
  • Eyes Se... Radical Ed 2012/06/30 12:18:26
    Eyes See Wide North
    +1
    I believe we have encountered 3 or 4 times before, on at least 2 of those occasions we clashed. You are right about the internet, it is the best networking tool since we learned how to walk and talk, and it will bring our world closer together like never before.
    I just want to see more people listen, I have seen change in the general public opinion of people (mostly for good, seldom bad), it is just very frustrating that it is the opposite for individual change. I thought people were stupid in mass and smart on there own, but it seems the internet provides us with an opposite.

    I couldnt disagree with anything you said in the second paragraph, I think we need to establish a better system for debating, something that rewards points for answering everything and asking good questions (respectfully would give added bonuses) and maybe little trophies (achievements like win xbox 360) for helping someone see the metaphorical light, sounds good enough to me, what say you?
  • Radical Ed Eyes Se... 2012/06/30 12:54:14
    Radical Ed
    +1
    i would have to say that it wouldn't be possible. what determines whether it is an hoest discussion, an argument or just joking around. the subjectivity of opinions limits what trophies could be provided to people. that's probably the reason why SH has only realy implemented the level system rather than achievements or trophies.
  • Eyes Se... Radical Ed 2012/07/01 13:20:30
    Eyes See Wide North
    It might be a year or two ahead of us, but technology has come a long way, a computer will be able to express its own opinion within 5 years.
  • Eyes Se... Radical Ed 2012/06/30 12:19:10
    Eyes See Wide North
    +1
    By the way, I dont hold any kind of grudge for our previous disagreements, as far as I remember you were not a dick about it.
  • LunarRain 2012/06/30 08:12:36
    On a regular basis, yes
    LunarRain
    Alot of people have pre existing opinions on topics people post.
  • Eyes Se... LunarRain 2012/06/30 09:17:36
    Eyes See Wide North
    +1
    I should have re-phrased the Question to "Do People on Sodahead post with there minds made up and closed off to any new ideas", something like that. My apologies
  • LunarRain Eyes Se... 2012/06/30 09:19:22
    LunarRain
    +1
    Oh then yes because alot of people are narrow minded and don't like to even think about another persons idea and will do anything to reject it even if it doesn't make sense.
  • Eyes Se... LunarRain 2012/06/30 09:36:58
    Eyes See Wide North
    Even if it does make sense :) I agree, but still dont know why people bother.

    The most logical explanation so far is that "it is fun" :/
  • LunarRain Eyes Se... 2012/06/30 09:41:07
    LunarRain
    +1
    I feel like it's because they disagree with what someone has to say and feel the need to tell you that you are wrong or they really want you to change your veiw to theirs.
  • Eyes Se... LunarRain 2012/06/30 09:46:11
    Eyes See Wide North
    That would be true for many of them, I found that many also seem to have a sense of pride here, simply continuing a debate because they do not want to lose.

    Do people really feel ashamed in front of a screen? Incredible, yet its staring me right in the face
  • LunarRain Eyes Se... 2012/06/30 16:26:41
    LunarRain
    That only annoys me when their argument doesn't even sound good and it turns into more of I'm right your wrong even though I don't have anything that supports what i say.
  • Eyes Se... LunarRain 2012/07/01 13:21:46
    Eyes See Wide North
    Exactly, blocking isnt fun either, and even when the person knows they are wrong, the just stop replying, takes all the fun out of being a smart ass.
  • cjj ~ FTGOP 2012/06/30 06:48:49
    On a regular basis, yes
    cjj ~ FTGOP
    Whatever could be your first clue?
  • Eyes Se... cjj ~ F... 2012/06/30 09:18:40
    Eyes See Wide North
    +1
    I should have re-phrased the Question to "Do People on Sodahead post with there minds made up and closed off to any new ideas", something like that. My apologies

    It would be that no one seems to listen to basic logic, or perhaps they are very dim witted, I am not sure which would upset me most.
  • cjj ~ F... Eyes Se... 2012/06/30 15:45:18
    cjj ~ FTGOP
    I did not mean to offend as well and if I did it was unintended.

    My response was based on the many polls posted that are "loaded." You know, where one is forced to answer contrary to their honest opinion just to participate. I rarely respond to them.
  • Eyes Se... cjj ~ F... 2012/07/01 13:26:04
    Eyes See Wide North
    +1
    I have not taken offense, if I implied I did, it was not intended.

    Yeah, I always make sure my opinion on the matter is very clear, still it annoys me that I have had to vote for the wrong choice.
    I think it portrays real life voting, its not like we get the best choice there either.
  • 666_Maggots~PassionForGlory... 2012/06/30 06:14:37
    On a regular basis, yes
    666_Maggots~PassionForGlory BN-1
    +1
    Especially on religious posts. That is terrible. A heads up to everyone. Never say you're a Satanist unless you're prepared to argue with 8 different people at once.
  • Eyes Se... 666_Mag... 2012/06/30 09:19:19
    Eyes See Wide North
    +1
    When your talking to someone about religion, you use one wrong word, and your ignored for ever, the worse part about being ignored here, they still keep talking...
  • 666_Mag... Eyes Se... 2012/06/30 09:21:43
    666_Maggots~PassionForGlory BN-1
    +1
    True and they assume things. I'm actually getting your point now, *some* Americans can be morons. Apparently I sacrifice blonde virgins. >.>
  • Eyes Se... 666_Mag... 2012/06/30 09:43:31
    Eyes See Wide North
    +1
    It is the media in America that is to blame, they have been deliberately dumbing Americans down for some time now, they want them to feel like they know everything so that they can feel completely safe.

    Example, a dark figure walks into a quiet town, we are to assume he is evil and that is not to be trusted, it is probably best that we take offense before he has the chance.

    A lot of movies point this out, but cant seem to get the message heard, so American masses continue to be brainwashed.

    I do not judge American people, for me to assume an American is going to always be what I predict them to be would prove I too am brainwashed, I am just aware of when people are under the influence of a Stereotype.

    "People spend anything from 20-80 hours (average) in front of a TV or computer screen a week, of course it has a considerable impact on our behaviour"
  • sockpuppet 2012/06/30 05:31:11
    On a regular basis, yes
    sockpuppet
    +1
    They're opinion polls, after all. Doesn't mean that opinions can't change, though. I've certainly had a few new spokes put in my wheel by people here.
  • Eyes Se... sockpuppet 2012/06/30 09:17:30
    Eyes See Wide North
    +1
    I should have re-phrased the Question to "Do People on Sodahead post with there minds made up and closed off to any new ideas", something like that. My apologies

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