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Do dogs and cats have souls?

Buoyant Leadraft 2012/04/30 20:43:31
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The Holy Bible says allot of messed up stuff. Animals not having souls is one of them.
To watch an elephant gather around and mourn the deceased remains of it's fellow kind. The emotion, intelligence and affection a dolphin displays when interacting with humans. The true friendship we share with our pets and the affection they show us.

I have a book shelve of urns of passed pet family members. I am starting to feel like a vampire outliving those I love.
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  • Pat 2012/05/01 02:17:52
    All living things have souls, even insects!
    Pat
    +3
    I believe all living things contain a "life force". Some may call it a soul but I don't know what to call it exactly. But I know it's there. I can feel it in myself, other people, my pets and all living things, even trees, flowers, as living things, have it. So I believe all things have what some call "souls".

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  • oceangrl 2012/06/04 20:16:33
    All living things have souls, even insects!
    oceangrl
    i would assume so, yes
  • Barbara 2012/05/12 03:32:29
    All living things have souls, even insects!
    Barbara
    I have to qualify my answer with spiders do not have souls. They are evil creatures that are planning to take over the world lol -- I have quite the phobia when it comes to that species!
    The thought has changed on this over the last ten years or so, that, yes, animals do go to heaven and we will see our pets that have gone before us when we get there!
    A book is out now (whose name I cannot remember but will find out if anyone is interested), that is a compilation of theologians, such as Billy Graham and Jack Van Impe, who quote scripture to back up the fact that animals will go to heaven.
    Your elephant analogy is excellent. I've seen elephants do some amazing things on the documentary and animal planet channels. How could a dolphin not go to heaven?
    We'll see cats and dogs in heaven and we'll see our own cats and dogs there. It's a big place. There's room for everything.
  • Buoyant... Barbara 2012/05/12 17:01:25 (edited)
    Buoyant Leadraft
    +1
    Thanks Barbara! What a nice post! I also get the willies from spiders. I am also a little freaked out over some reptiles like snakes, but do love geckos and lady bugs.
  • Barbara Buoyant... 2012/05/12 18:08:32 (edited)
    Barbara
    Gloria's post further down has the title of the book I've mentioned.

    I love lady bugs too, and they're good for your garden! I have to agree with you about snakes, especially the ones people had that got too big to be kept in a household (like reticulating pythons who people stupidly let go in the Everglades. It's changing the whole eco system there and the snakes have reached some neighborhoods and are expanding further).
    Having lived in a subtropical area of the country for a while, I'm not wild about alligators. Especially if there is a drought, they show up all over the place, as in people's swimming pools, and I had to check the backyard to make sure it was safe before I let my dogs out. Salt-water crocodiles are supposed to be horrendous!
    On a pleasant note, yes, there is a heaven and, yes, you'll see all your beloved pets.
    Once nature is restored and in balance, animals will be able to communicate with us by speaking. Won't that be great?
    When you hear about Eve and the snake that talked her into eating whatever fruit it was, she wouldn't have been worried about the fruit, she would have freaked out over this snake that's talking to her if she wasn't used to that happening.
    As far as heaven is concerned, if you look deeply inside yourself, you can feel a sense of eternity within you. Your body dies, but your soul knows no limits. We're all hard-wired to have a sense of eternity. Some people just choose not to recognize it.
  • Buoyant... Barbara 2012/05/12 19:13:26 (edited)
    Buoyant Leadraft
    +1
    You know, when you were talking about loving lady bugs it reminded me of this horrific news story about a woman who loved killer ladybugs

    http://newspressmedia.blogspo...
  • sjalan 2012/05/03 05:27:16
    Not even humans have souls and their is no afterlife!
    sjalan
    NONE of these answers address the question correctly.

    If this is being looked at from a Biblical point of view, the Bible states ever clearly that all animals including man, are "living souls" NO WHERE does it say that man or the animals have eternal "spirit souls" of any kind except to those granted such by being chosen out of the earth to serve as kings and priests along side Jesus in heaven. Those are "incorruptable" as is the resurrected Jesus.

    So the end answer is that Animals, man included, do not have eternal 'spirit souls"
  • Buoyant... sjalan 2012/05/03 06:57:57 (edited)
    Buoyant Leadraft
    Then why worry about eternally burring in hell forever if you sin, I guess we won't be in heaven or hell, because we won't be eternal 'spirit souls anyway. Why bother.
  • sjalan Buoyant... 2012/05/03 07:10:40
    sjalan
    If you have a belief in an afterlife I cannot change that, but the Bible does offer a thing called the resurrection to life. Where? In a paradise earth that's where. All you have to do is follow the God of the Bible rules.

    Well that is what it says. and if you don't have that kind of hope then Oh well.
  • Buoyant... sjalan 2012/05/03 21:49:28 (edited)
    Buoyant Leadraft
    I'm an atheist, I'am just trying to pigeon hole you and the things the bible says...
    t like and give it a pass.
  • sjalan Buoyant... 2012/05/03 21:57:46
    sjalan
    LOL. You'll never be able to pigeon hole me because I simply know what is written in the Bible. Doesn't mean I Believe the stuff.

    I believe that ones own karma is a reflection on how they live their lives. Be bad to me and eventually it will come around to haunt you. Remeber the old saying "Payback is a MoFo"
  • Buoyant... sjalan 2012/05/03 22:09:20 (edited)
    Buoyant Leadraft
    If religious whack jobs dug up a 2,000 year old book called Harry Potter, from the sand of time after a nuclear holocaust whipped out almost every man woman and child off the planet, they would also be quoting from that book as well, and telling us that is what the book says it's we need to know.
  • sjalan Buoyant... 2012/05/03 22:18:56
    sjalan
    I am not speaking hypothecically, I am speaking in the here and now.

    But to answer your question, I'd probably throw it in the fire along with the other kindling to stay warm.

    And for a rethink, in 2000 years 99.9 % of all books published today will have rotted away into nothing anyway. So the question is mute.

    I'm not being an ass or anything, just ask reasonable questions and you'll get reasonable answers
  • Buoyant... sjalan 2012/05/03 22:22:35 (edited)
    Buoyant Leadraft
    Okay okay, the book is made on golden tablets!
  • sjalan Buoyant... 2012/05/03 22:37:50
    sjalan
    Now you're sounding like a Mormon. LOL.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Assuming the skill of reading had survived and the Golden Tables were written in the language I could read, I doubt that I would believe any of what was written in a Harry Potter book 2000 years removed from the date of authorship.

    And I am certain IF I found a book of Golden Tables I'm melt them down for trading, IF trading was developed again.
  • Buoyant... sjalan 2012/05/03 22:42:55 (edited)
    Buoyant Leadraft
    You know, i'm really starting to like you, and that upsets me.
  • sjalan Buoyant... 2012/05/03 22:48:31
    sjalan
    LOL. Who says a crazy old fart can't be liked?
  • Buoyant... sjalan 2012/05/03 22:57:30 (edited)
    Buoyant Leadraft
    You creepy old pervert! I'M CALLING THE POLICE!
  • sjalan Buoyant... 2012/05/03 23:08:31
    sjalan
    Oh come one now. I know lots of young people via my family and I find them very entertaining. As a matter of fact they keep my mind active and alert to the changing times we live in.
  • Buoyant... sjalan 2012/05/03 23:09:35
    Buoyant Leadraft
    I live in Los Angeles.
  • sjalan Buoyant... 2012/05/03 23:42:35
    sjalan
    There was a rumor that Yang Chow's served dog at one time, but I don't know if they still do.

    I know that Blossom (Vietnamese) did sell cat when they first opened but had to stop because of an uproar about it.

    Oh well You could send out to both Vietnam and South China for some to be imported back here.

    Of course you could do what a Philippeano did that I used to know, go to the pound and get a nice big dog or cat and serve them up as lumpia.
  • Buoyant... sjalan 2012/05/04 00:17:01 (edited)
    Buoyant Leadraft
    My god...
    I've been to Yang Chow's.
  • sjalan Buoyant... 2012/05/04 00:55:13
    sjalan
    I know about LA. How do ya think I know about the reastraunts?

    LOL

    Not ever going to try to convert anyone. To each his own thing
  • Buoyant... sjalan 2012/05/08 03:22:56 (edited)
    Buoyant Leadraft
    Barbara? Please stop e-mailing me about the Bible Code.
  • Buoyant... sjalan 2012/05/12 20:48:05 (edited)
    Buoyant Leadraft
    How much weight do you put into the bible code and BARBARA?
  • sjalan Buoyant... 2012/05/13 02:14:40
    sjalan
    I frankly don't put much weight in those.
  • Buoyant... sjalan 2012/05/13 04:13:40 (edited)
    Buoyant Leadraft
    Do you think people who use smiley icons are crazy?
  • sjalan Buoyant... 2012/05/13 04:21:53
    sjalan
    :)
  • Barbara Buoyant... 2012/05/12 03:38:54
    Barbara
    If archaeologists and scientists find things that we will leave behind and Harry Potter happens to be one of the artifacts, they'll go through tests and debates and peer reviews like they do now and everyone will have their own opinion just as they do now when we look at, say, relics and tombs from the Egyptian pharoahs.
  • Buoyant... Barbara 2012/05/12 17:18:27 (edited)
    Buoyant Leadraft
    +1
    Well Barbara, I just fear it will end up being the new bible.
  • Barbara Buoyant... 2012/05/12 18:09:38
    Barbara
    So that would make Dumbledore God? LOL
  • Buoyant... Barbara 2012/05/12 20:34:38 (edited)
    Buoyant Leadraft
    You know, somehow i would feel better about Dumbledore. He would be a very just loving and righteous God.
  • Barbara Buoyant... 2012/05/13 02:00:59
    Barbara
    I wish Richard Harris had lived long enough to do the entire Harry Potter series of movies. He looked exactly as I picture Dumbledore when I read the books.
    Actually, we do have a loving and righteous God; it's people who screw things up, sadly.
  • POWERSHAKER 2012/05/01 17:24:06
    Animals are made to eat not go to heaven!
    POWERSHAKER
    I don't think they have souls. If the Bible is true, they certainly don't have souls. :)
  • Buoyant... POWERSH... 2012/05/01 18:12:07 (edited)
    Buoyant Leadraft
    +1
    How do you like to cook "Rover or Fluffy", on an open flame or under the broiler?
  • POWERSH... Buoyant... 2012/05/01 19:24:53
    POWERSHAKER
    +1
    Ask Obama. I hear he likes to eat dogs. lol
  • Buoyant... POWERSH... 2012/05/03 21:51:00 (edited)
    Buoyant Leadraft
    +1
    I think i would rather put my dog on the car roof then eat it.
  • sjalan Buoyant... 2012/05/03 23:15:10
    sjalan
    I like "Rover" roasted and "Fluffy" Fried. :)

    I've had both dog and cat as the main dishes of a meal in many places in the world. Philippeans for the dog and SEA and southern China for the cat. Cat testicles are supposed to enhance sexual performance and dog heart is supposed to provide courage.

    But both when cooked correctly are very good tasting.

    sexual performance dog heart supposed provide courage cooked correctly tasting

    sexual performance dog heart supposed provide courage cooked correctly tasting
  • Buoyant... sjalan 2012/05/04 01:10:40 (edited)
    Buoyant Leadraft
    +1
    Oh god, i need time to respond... EW!
  • Barbara Buoyant... 2012/05/12 18:15:04
    Barbara
    I can't look at the posted photos. How absolutely horrible. I would say where's PETA when you need them, but they've euthanized thousands of animals, and then the news report where PETA was leaving dogs and cats near dumpsters at night (more dramatic ~ under the cloak of darkness). I don't trust them anymore.
  • Buoyant... sjalan 2012/05/08 05:18:12 (edited)
    Buoyant Leadraft
    +1
    What is wrong with these people.

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