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Did Hitler murder people of the future as well?

Christian 2012/09/20 16:24:19
Just think of all the innocent people Hitler murdered, he may have murdered the person/people that would have discovered a cure for AIDS or Cancer or maybe invented the engine that would thrust man through space at the speed of light. The damage that Hitler did to the worlds future cannot be measured, but I am sure it is significant. The price the world paid for this sick annihilation of so many innocent people may have been 10 times worse, if you consider what could have been had the 6 Jews and 9 million other people been saved. When Hitler would go into a European town or village, he would kill the brightest people first, because they were the biggest threat to him.Jews in death camps
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  • BHGOzzy 2012/09/20 18:32:34
    BHGOzzy
    +4
    This is idiotic. You might as well argue that Ghenges Khan deprived us of the cure for cancer, or perhaps Pol Pot, or even Julius Ceasar. How about Napoleon? What about George Washington? All of these people are responsible for thousands of deaths, during war time. Are they equally responsible for a lack of certain people appearing in this time period?

    No. Even a real genius can be stifled if they're born in the wrong place or at the wrong time. Imagine, if you will, a little girl who has the potential to find the cure for AIDS. Too bad she was born in Afghanistan and will not only never receive the education she needs, but wouldn't even be allowed to because of her gender. Imagine that instead of a girl genius in Afghanistan, imagine it's a little boy in rural America. He was born, but his parents are part of the large section of Americans who are too poor to qualify to pay taxes, save for wage taxes. The kid goes to public school, which is under funded, and is never encouraged to learn or explore. Lets say... this kid is a native of Texas, where Creationism is taught. Kid grows up without ANY of the tools needed to complete his potential and find the cure for AIDS. He grows up, barely gets out of high school, gets married and has more kids instead of doing wha...

    This is idiotic. You might as well argue that Ghenges Khan deprived us of the cure for cancer, or perhaps Pol Pot, or even Julius Ceasar. How about Napoleon? What about George Washington? All of these people are responsible for thousands of deaths, during war time. Are they equally responsible for a lack of certain people appearing in this time period?

    No. Even a real genius can be stifled if they're born in the wrong place or at the wrong time. Imagine, if you will, a little girl who has the potential to find the cure for AIDS. Too bad she was born in Afghanistan and will not only never receive the education she needs, but wouldn't even be allowed to because of her gender. Imagine that instead of a girl genius in Afghanistan, imagine it's a little boy in rural America. He was born, but his parents are part of the large section of Americans who are too poor to qualify to pay taxes, save for wage taxes. The kid goes to public school, which is under funded, and is never encouraged to learn or explore. Lets say... this kid is a native of Texas, where Creationism is taught. Kid grows up without ANY of the tools needed to complete his potential and find the cure for AIDS. He grows up, barely gets out of high school, gets married and has more kids instead of doing what he could've done. He stays forever an undereducated, poor American white trash guy living a mediocre existence.

    You can have all the potential in the world but it can still be squandered without the proper resources to achieve it. Someone being responsible for the deaths of people in the past has absolutely no bearing on this fact. Remember, the global population in 1944 was a quarter of what it is now. Less than three billion. I'd say human expansion and reproduction has greatly outpaced the losses incurred during WWII.
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  • Super ludum 2012/09/23 08:33:49
  • Cat 2012/09/23 07:17:12
    Cat
    +1
    MY father helped liberate the Dachau camp. Being Native American, he knew about atrocities, but that camp was such a sight that many of his fellow soldiers, many native Oklahoma Indians, just sat down and bawled. It was inconceivable to these battle-hardened soldiers that human beings could treat their fellow human beings like that.
    Just think, the biochemist who would have found the cure for cancer may have been killed there, or the man or woman who could bring about an earlier end to the Cold War. Dachau held mostly German speaking Jews, other camps held Guypsies, Jehovah's Witnesses, Poles and so on
    11 million people killed = 5.5 million couples = @22 million children = @176 million grandchildren being productive people now who never had the chance to be.
  • Christian Cat 2012/09/23 18:01:13
    Christian
    TY for your very valued comment and God bless your Dad.
  • Cat Christian 2012/09/23 23:00:44
    Cat
    Thank you too. He knew the Lord, so he's OK. He passed on about 15 years ago.
  • Barbara 2012/09/21 21:39:45
    Barbara
    +1
    Anytime there's loss of human life (the Titanic, e.g.), there's a risk of losing someone who may have been important to the future well-being of others. Hitler, along with his henchmen, were responsible for the deaths of communists, the Jews, intellectuals, homosexuals (which I personally feel no one should be defined by their sexuality), gypsies, clergy, protestants, political dissidents ~ anyone was fair game, especially after people were encouraged to report to the government any suspicious activity by their neighbors. It was so bad, that if you did not greet someone with "Heil Hitler", you could be reported and arrested merely for that.
  • Leprachaun999 2012/09/21 01:49:13
    Leprachaun999
    He also might have killed the next Hitler, silly question.
  • Christian Leprach... 2012/09/21 03:23:31 (edited)
    Christian
    I don't know if you are a good person to judge, I have been reading some of your questions and they are pretty silly and mostly pointless. If I were you I would just either answer or not answer or else just shut your mouth you socialist pig.
  • Leprach... Christian 2012/09/21 09:04:30
    Leprachaun999
    +1
    Cry me a river
  • Christian Leprach... 2012/09/21 17:49:12
    Christian
    Sorry I called you a socialist pig, I was in a bad mood. I used to live in Montreal by the way.
  • Leprach... Christian 2012/09/21 20:15:37
    Leprachaun999
    +1
    lol All Good, It's that it was not a horrible event in history, I suppose i just find the argument issues by the pro life crowed too. there are so many other real reasons to argue against Hitler. My Favorite plausible one though is the going back in time would you kill Hitler before the war.
  • Christian Leprach... 2012/09/21 20:43:01
    Christian
    That would be great, to go back in time, he was such a maggot, the more I study Hitler the more I say, how did this happen?
  • Leprach... Christian 2012/09/21 20:50:20
    Leprachaun999
    True , but the argument is always if you change history would you get somebody worse
  • Mark 2012/09/20 21:28:30
  • No One 2012/09/20 21:12:04
    No One
    +1
    Well what is certain is he did prevent some people from ever being born who would have otherwise been born had their ancestors not been killed before being born and yes he probably did kill some people who would have derectly or inderectly saved or improved peoples lives so you could say he killed people who later lived.
  • Robbb 2012/09/20 20:20:59
    Robbb
    +1
    you can say the same about ay action or event in history. hitler was not the only person to kill people,
  • Professor Wizard 2012/09/20 19:50:57
    Professor Wizard
    +1
    He is not alone... Among the first to get killed in Bosnia, were Doctors and professors, then senior college students.

    Intelligence is always a severe threat to a waring government.
  • MDMA 2012/09/20 19:41:31
    MDMA
    Pointless.....because who knows the people killed in the crusades, in 9/11 or in Iraq would not have done the same.....
  • BHGOzzy 2012/09/20 18:32:34
    BHGOzzy
    +4
    This is idiotic. You might as well argue that Ghenges Khan deprived us of the cure for cancer, or perhaps Pol Pot, or even Julius Ceasar. How about Napoleon? What about George Washington? All of these people are responsible for thousands of deaths, during war time. Are they equally responsible for a lack of certain people appearing in this time period?

    No. Even a real genius can be stifled if they're born in the wrong place or at the wrong time. Imagine, if you will, a little girl who has the potential to find the cure for AIDS. Too bad she was born in Afghanistan and will not only never receive the education she needs, but wouldn't even be allowed to because of her gender. Imagine that instead of a girl genius in Afghanistan, imagine it's a little boy in rural America. He was born, but his parents are part of the large section of Americans who are too poor to qualify to pay taxes, save for wage taxes. The kid goes to public school, which is under funded, and is never encouraged to learn or explore. Lets say... this kid is a native of Texas, where Creationism is taught. Kid grows up without ANY of the tools needed to complete his potential and find the cure for AIDS. He grows up, barely gets out of high school, gets married and has more kids instead of doing wha...

    This is idiotic. You might as well argue that Ghenges Khan deprived us of the cure for cancer, or perhaps Pol Pot, or even Julius Ceasar. How about Napoleon? What about George Washington? All of these people are responsible for thousands of deaths, during war time. Are they equally responsible for a lack of certain people appearing in this time period?

    No. Even a real genius can be stifled if they're born in the wrong place or at the wrong time. Imagine, if you will, a little girl who has the potential to find the cure for AIDS. Too bad she was born in Afghanistan and will not only never receive the education she needs, but wouldn't even be allowed to because of her gender. Imagine that instead of a girl genius in Afghanistan, imagine it's a little boy in rural America. He was born, but his parents are part of the large section of Americans who are too poor to qualify to pay taxes, save for wage taxes. The kid goes to public school, which is under funded, and is never encouraged to learn or explore. Lets say... this kid is a native of Texas, where Creationism is taught. Kid grows up without ANY of the tools needed to complete his potential and find the cure for AIDS. He grows up, barely gets out of high school, gets married and has more kids instead of doing what he could've done. He stays forever an undereducated, poor American white trash guy living a mediocre existence.

    You can have all the potential in the world but it can still be squandered without the proper resources to achieve it. Someone being responsible for the deaths of people in the past has absolutely no bearing on this fact. Remember, the global population in 1944 was a quarter of what it is now. Less than three billion. I'd say human expansion and reproduction has greatly outpaced the losses incurred during WWII.
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  • Christian BHGOzzy 2012/09/20 18:34:35
    Christian
    There is a difference between people dying do to war and being systematically slaughtered.
  • BHGOzzy Christian 2012/09/20 18:39:46
  • Christian BHGOzzy 2012/09/20 18:59:40
    Christian
    +1
    Interesting
  • MeiLin BHGOzzy 2012/09/21 21:06:33
    MeiLin
    +1
    well said.
  • Fran-Halen 2012/09/20 18:23:23
    Fran-Halen
    +2
    Moot but poignant question.
  • Christian Fran-Halen 2012/09/20 19:00:15
  • Dagon 2012/09/20 17:03:46
  • rand 2012/09/20 16:51:18 (edited)
    rand
    +2
    He actually "slew" his own chances for world domination by chasing away the brain power (scientists, mostly physicists) that he needed to succeed. The same question could be asked with even more relevance regarding Mao and Stalin.
  • Christian rand 2012/09/20 16:52:59
    Christian
    +2
    Very true.
  • Kat ♪.BTO-t-BCRA-F~PWCM~ 2012/09/20 16:43:28
    Kat ♪.BTO-t-BCRA-F~PWCM~
    +1
    There's no way to tell the potential for good of the people murdered. He definitely killed off the subsequent generations of a lot of bloodlines. Doctors and scientists to the common cobbler any of which could have had many generations of intelligent progeny capable of creating music, cures and anything else imaginable.
  • sickofpolitics 2012/09/20 16:41:57
    sickofpolitics
    +1
    Sad but true!!!!
  • The Laughing man 2012/09/20 16:40:29
    The Laughing man
    +2
    you gotta remember that our genes are determined by a lottery win chance. it's likely that any of us has indirectly prevented a great mind from being born just because our sperm got to the egg before the genius did.

    millions die each year and the probability of them being able to give birth to a genius is possible as well. what Hitler done was atrocious but comparing that to how many die of natural causes, disease, accidents etc, it's quite small.
  • britbiker 2012/09/20 16:29:50
    britbiker
    +1
    Who knows. A few escaped Hitler and gave us the Bomb.
  • Christian britbiker 2012/09/20 16:49:20
    Christian
    Imagine if he got it first, would you be here?
  • Dagon Christian 2012/09/20 17:06:09
  • Christian Dagon 2012/09/20 17:09:04
    Christian
    +1
    I guess.
  • Dagon Christian 2012/09/20 17:12:50
  • britbiker Christian 2012/09/21 03:15:10
    britbiker
    I doubt it
  • Rust 2012/09/20 16:29:02
  • wolf sloan 2012/09/20 16:28:32
    wolf sloan
    +2
    Yeah, who knows what future offspring of the victims might have accomplished.

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