D.C.Willis, an ordained minister, has written a book he called “Subtle Deceit”. Do you feel the fraud in the sacred texts is hidden or is it obvious?

There is one. She goes by the name of Sandy. Totally indoctrinated and propagandized. She is unable to think for herself. She spews the venom of the obsessed. She has studied the "Word" and the text front to back and knows all the arguments. But alas, it is all gibberish!! I think she was in Dover for the Intelligent Design debate. She was on the losing side, again.

The sheet number of contradictory passages in the Judeo-Christian faith books is astounding, as are the many hoops that its followers jump through to make those passages not contradict in their outlook on life.

It is a little bit of both actually. There is quite enough that is blatantly obvious to cause most relatively intelligent people to question them!

What does that tell you about the level of intelligence?

This is precisely why it is a no brainer and why, for me, so simple to be an Atheist.

I think if people could get past the generation after generation of brainwashing propaganda and look critically at the big picture it is very obvious that religion of all colors is about control.

And some of the more supposedly beneficial material is missing, including the Aquarian Gospel and the Book of Thomas.

So he's an "ordained" minister. Ordained by who ?

I know that in South Carolina you can become an ordained minister by filling out and signing a form online.

Doesn't mean much

A person who has gotten "ordained" by filling out online form would be among the last I'd look to for spiritual advice,.. much less guidance.

I don't look to priest for guidance. No Christian does. [as I use the label which is accurately]

I understand your question but does it really matter who on earth ordains a person to know about things no human has ever seen?

Accepting being ordained by man is strong evidence of being a deceived deceiver. Of joining the ranks of the blind who lead the blind. No man "ordained" the apostle Paul. Jesus personally and directly ordains His own.

The fact that God is not seen by naked eye has been well known to believers for quite some time.

All the more reason to question the mental condition of die hard believers.

AntiGod types been doing that for centuries.
Atheist are like a man who says

"since I never met Joe Blow, I know Joe Blow does not exist.
And if you claim you have met Joe Blow, then you are a liar."

You are obviously happy and content believing in fairy tales and mythology with no proof what so ever. I am not. It is as simple as that.

There is in fact a subtle deceit in the text. Complete books have been removed in an attempt to cover up the truth. But once these truths are revealed, many of the the questions about what occurred in the Old Testament are revealed.

This is not another book written by an Atheist. I believe in the Great Creator (God), and believe that he has been falsely accused.

This book even reveals the identity of the Anti-Christ.

The bible is a collection of writing chosen by Constantine, is it not? With many left out as they did not serve his purposes. Still, what is included are often contradictory so it is hard to believe they were chosen as the most believable.

About three hundred bishops gathered at the Council of Nicea and there was much division about which texts were to be included in the canon. So the Pontifex Maximus (Constantine), provided a list of the texts he thought should be acceptable. Even though the Bishops stated that the Emperor did not force them to accept the list, they did in fact accept it just the same. (I would have also, because Constantine was not a nice guy.)

Some of the books that were rejected fall under the category of Gnostic. These texts do not seem to be believable when read as a normal book but this is because the true meaning of the writings are mystic and hidden within the story. While others would have fit into the canon with no trouble.

Yes, agreeing with Constantine was a matter of saving one's life. Given that people cannot agree on what the bible says now, I can just imagine the differing opinions that would come with reading mystic writings.

I have read them and yes it would cause some major issues. But they were interesting just the same.

I'm sure they were interesting!

There is a book, " Lost Scriptures" written by Bart Erhman. It contains copies of most of these forgotten books if you are interested.

OH thanks. I would be interested in reading it!

The fraud is in the dark hearts of men seeking the flesh, and blood of humans even as a human seeks his daily meals, and all knows what becomes of those daily meals. That is the beginning, and end of the thoughts of humans using Sacred texts to harm another human making Gods word into a lie. Sacred texts have no fraud. But Fallen man with Satan in their body that dies is full of the intent to make fraudulent claims. Only the loving spirit of God will guide whoever in the loving truth that harms no man. I see the truth, and I see the lies too.