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Could America Benefit From Legalizing Marijuana?

deBrice 2012/07/23 18:00:00
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Election time is always the place for strong and sometimes aggressive debates, but there are some topics that candidates fear: abortion, gun control and medicare, for starters. And then there's the topic of legalizing marijuana. Gary Johnson, former governor of New Mexico and Libertarian Party nominee for the 2012 presidential election, believes in legalizing marijuana in America, just like the country did with alcohol to end the prohibition.

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  • Preside... _-T3x4S... 2012/07/23 20:43:05
    President Camacho
    What do it heal?
  • AnonRanGER Preside... 2012/07/23 21:10:07
    AnonRanGER
    +1
    Which part? It IS a drug, but he's right about the rest.
  • Preside... AnonRanGER 2012/07/24 15:23:23
    President Camacho
    Marijuana heals nothing.
  • AnonRanGER Preside... 2012/07/24 17:06:12
    AnonRanGER
    "New evidence of the efficacy and lack of side-effects of marijuana in the treatment of several diseases. On the treatment of chronic pain:

    “Cannabinoids may augment the analgesic effects of opioids, allowing longer treatment at lower doses with fewer side effects.”

    This is an empirical and scientific question, not a social or moral one. And what many do not seem to understand is that marijuana is often most effective in enabling patients to tolerate medication regimens that would otherwise be impossible to maintain: chemotherapy, multiple sclerosis meds, AIDS therapy, etc."
    http://www.theatlantic.com/da...

    "Marijuana heals post traumatic stress
    A new study has found that administration of cannabinoids (marijuana) after experiencing a traumatic event blocks the development of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)-like symptoms ."
    http://articles.timesofindia....

    "There is scientific evidence that [marijuana] helps with pain relief and nausea and vomiting from chemotherapy, for example, in terminal cancer patients," said John A. Benson, Jr., a principal investigator of the IOM study and a professor of internal medicine at the University of Nebraska Medical Center.

    In addition, some HIV/AIDS patients suffering from decreased appetites use marijuana to "get the munchies," another of...

    "New evidence of the efficacy and lack of side-effects of marijuana in the treatment of several diseases. On the treatment of chronic pain:

    “Cannabinoids may augment the analgesic effects of opioids, allowing longer treatment at lower doses with fewer side effects.”

    This is an empirical and scientific question, not a social or moral one. And what many do not seem to understand is that marijuana is often most effective in enabling patients to tolerate medication regimens that would otherwise be impossible to maintain: chemotherapy, multiple sclerosis meds, AIDS therapy, etc."
    http://www.theatlantic.com/da...

    "Marijuana heals post traumatic stress
    A new study has found that administration of cannabinoids (marijuana) after experiencing a traumatic event blocks the development of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)-like symptoms ."
    http://articles.timesofindia....

    "There is scientific evidence that [marijuana] helps with pain relief and nausea and vomiting from chemotherapy, for example, in terminal cancer patients," said John A. Benson, Jr., a principal investigator of the IOM study and a professor of internal medicine at the University of Nebraska Medical Center.

    In addition, some HIV/AIDS patients suffering from decreased appetites use marijuana to "get the munchies," another oft-noted effect of the drug. [...]
    In the early 1990s Pertwee's research group helped to uncover human-produced chemicals similar to THC that stimulate our appetites and help us control pain. "We produce our own cannabis, in effect," he said. "It often seems to have a protective role.""
    https://www.google.com/search...
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  • Preside... AnonRanGER 2012/07/24 18:48:18
    President Camacho
    No legit sources.
  • AnonRanGER Preside... 2012/07/25 19:46:52
    AnonRanGER
    What, because you say they aren't legit because that would prove you wrong?
    What would you consider "legit sources"?
  • Preside... AnonRanGER 2012/07/26 01:24:28
    President Camacho
    AMA
  • AnonRanGER Preside... 2012/07/26 01:53:49 (edited)
    AnonRanGER
    There you go...

    "HOUSTON --- The American Medical Association (AMA) voted today to reverse its long-held position that marijuana be retained as a Schedule I substance with no medical value. The AMA adopted a report drafted by the AMA Council on Science and Public Health (CSAPH) entitled, "Use of Cannabis for Medicinal Purposes," which affirmed the therapeutic benefits of marijuana and called for further research. The CSAPH report concluded that, "short term controlled trials indicate that smoked cannabis reduces neuropathic pain, improves appetite and caloric intake especially in patients with reduced muscle mass, and may relieve spasticity and pain in patients with multiple sclerosis." Furthermore, the report urges that "the Schedule I status of marijuana be reviewed with the goal of facilitating clinical research and development of cannabinoid-based medicines, and alternate delivery methods." [...]
    "It's been 72 years since the AMA has officially recognized that marijuana has both already-demonstrated and future-promising medical utility," said Sunil Aggarwal, Ph.D., the medical student who spearheaded both the passage of the June 2008 resolution by the MSS and one of the CSAPH report's designated expert reviewers. "The AMA has written an extensive, well-documented, evidence-b...&



    There you go...

    "HOUSTON --- The American Medical Association (AMA) voted today to reverse its long-held position that marijuana be retained as a Schedule I substance with no medical value. The AMA adopted a report drafted by the AMA Council on Science and Public Health (CSAPH) entitled, "Use of Cannabis for Medicinal Purposes," which affirmed the therapeutic benefits of marijuana and called for further research. The CSAPH report concluded that, "short term controlled trials indicate that smoked cannabis reduces neuropathic pain, improves appetite and caloric intake especially in patients with reduced muscle mass, and may relieve spasticity and pain in patients with multiple sclerosis." Furthermore, the report urges that "the Schedule I status of marijuana be reviewed with the goal of facilitating clinical research and development of cannabinoid-based medicines, and alternate delivery methods." [...]
    "It's been 72 years since the AMA has officially recognized that marijuana has both already-demonstrated and future-promising medical utility," said Sunil Aggarwal, Ph.D., the medical student who spearheaded both the passage of the June 2008 resolution by the MSS and one of the CSAPH report's designated expert reviewers. "The AMA has written an extensive, well-documented, evidence-based report that they are seeking to publish in a peer-reviewed journal that will help to educate the medical community about the scientific basis of botanical cannabis-based medicines." Aggarwal is also on the Medical & Scientific Advisory Board of Americans for Safe Access (ASA), the largest medical marijuana advocacy organization in the U.S."
    http://www.opposingviews.com/...

    The report itself:
    http://www.ama-assn.org/resou...
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  • boss hawg 2012/07/23 19:27:39
    Yes
    boss hawg
    +2
    absolutely. so many ways to benefit from it.
  • TheBadOne 2012/07/23 19:24:23
    Yes
    TheBadOne
    +3
    I'm sorry, but the whole budget deficit, as well as California's problems, coulda been solved yesterday if a pragmatic solution involving cannabis would be implemented instead of some archaic logic that the best way to handle it is to make it illegal, only for the black market to come in and make untaxed profits that may or may not go to illegal enterprise.
  • moiraregis 2012/07/23 19:22:33
    Yes
    moiraregis
    +5
    it's a cash cow currently being milked by criminals; if the govt. lets us sell booze and cigarettes, they should stop this meaningless opposiition to legalizing pot in this country; also, amsterdam has outlawed noncitizens from patronizing marijuana cafes, so i smell some big tourist dollars, as well; WE NEED THE MONEY!
  • Patric 2012/07/23 19:22:15
    Yes
    Patric
    +7
    billions spent on law enforcement chase the pot smokers.

    billions spent on prison for the pot smokers they caught

    billions lost on tax not collected on legal pot

    after a couple of billions , it starts to add up to real money ....
  • Striker Patric 2012/07/23 20:25:26
    Striker
    Lost on tax? Why do you want the Beast to survive?
  • Patric Striker 2012/07/24 01:29:23
    Patric
    +1
    beast ??
  • Striker Patric 2012/07/24 01:34:02 (edited)
    Striker
    +1
    Coined by an author of a book called "Starve the Beast", the Beast being this government.

    Edit: I'm trying to track it for you - I've never seen the book, just like the thought. I learned of it on another website which has no "search", so about 3 years of archives to peruse... and it gets worse LOL
  • Patric Striker 2012/07/24 02:00:56
    Patric
    +1
    looked it up,,it is as you wrote..

    I do not think STB is a long term answer ..

    starve the spending ... STS ,
  • Striker Patric 2012/07/24 02:04:55
    Striker
    +1
    STS would be much the same thing. Let's just say it's a rallying cry, but know that I've been DOING so for over 2 decades.

    If we do not find viable of gaining a Resistance Movement, what the heck DO we do?
  • Patric Striker 2012/07/24 10:00:45
    Patric
    +1
    ever get the feeling of being run over by a locomotive ?

    the gov't is a beast , and to me, it is an avalanche that we can not stop..

    starve the beast , stop the spending ... we got to do something.

    and Nov. is where / when I take my action ..
  • volley15 2012/07/23 19:19:34
    Yes
    volley15
    +5
    Legalize it, tax it, set age restrictions on it like alcohol or tobacco, create jobs, reduce local and federal spending by not throwing people in jail for victimless crimes, fix our national debt, reduce border violence (which may even help reduce illegal immigration if you think about it because Cartel violence drives many people into the states).... Need I say more?

    The "war" on drugs is a futile endeavor and we all know it. It's costly and accomplishes nothing. You'd have to smoke four times your body weight in pot to even stand a change of overdosing and that is physically impossible as you would pass out LONG before getting anywhere close to that amount.

    Just legalize it already.
  • Daedalus 2012/07/23 19:13:18
    Yes
    Daedalus
    +3
    In multiple ways.
  • Heisenberg 2012/07/23 19:07:26 (edited)
    No
    Heisenberg
    +3
    What amazes me about most pot-heads is how they carp on about liberty without taking responsibility.

    Guess what pot-heads? Take responsibility first, then you can smoke yourself (more) stupid.

    I support the legalization OF ALL DRUGS just as soon as we get rid of the welfare state and socialized medicine.

    Want to poison yourself? That's your business. Paying for your stupid decisions is my business.
  • moiraregis Heisenberg 2012/07/23 19:30:12
    moiraregis
    +3
    honeybunch, you are paying a whole lot more in tax dollars keeping pot smokers in prison; i have no idea what "personal responsibility" you republicans love to gas on about has to do with legalizing a drug already in wide use by perfectly normal, productive people, except create more tax revenues for a nation going broke. so you'd dismantle the "welfare state" [including your medicare and social security benefits; willing to give those up?] and legalize angel dust? and you have the temerity to call pot smokers stupid!
  • Heisenberg moiraregis 2012/07/23 19:36:55
    Heisenberg
    You distort the facts and miss the point. (not surprising)

    1. Pot smokers are not in prison. Importers and dealers are. No major state puts pot smokers in prison any more.

    2. You don't count the money saved from DUI's, health complications and theft from suppressing marijuana use.

    3. Yes. Dismantle the welfare state. Grow up and pay your own way.

    4. Nobody calls me 'honeybunch' unless I am having sex with them and sorry but I am not interested in a stoner.
  • NOva Heisenberg 2012/07/23 20:12:44
    NOva
    +1
    Well, they do put smokers in jail and we do pay for them. Really, you need to come out of your ivory tower once and awhile.
  • Chief Heisenberg 2012/07/23 23:58:22
    Chief
    They do indeed put pot smokers in prison and the war on drugs is the biggest failure in US policy in the history of this Country and has also paved the way for our new police state.
  • Heisenberg Chief 2012/07/24 15:55:23
    Heisenberg
    Sorry but which jurisdiction puts pot smokers in prison?
  • Chief Heisenberg 2012/07/24 16:01:14
    Chief
    CA, three busts and your in prison for life, if they make it a felony which they normally do.

    It should be legalized and never should have been made illegal in the first place.
  • Heisenberg Chief 2012/07/24 16:23:24
    Heisenberg
    +1
    Sorry but no.

    In California, smoking marijuana is not against the law for anyone not too lazy to waddle into a 'medical marijuana' clinic to have a fake card issued.

    You fail.
  • Chief Heisenberg 2012/07/24 16:51:45
    Chief
    Fail? I think not, perhaps I simply misspeak as so many politicians do on a daily basis.

    CA has changed it's laws drastically, however it depends on who catches you with it, as state drug laws are trumped by federal laws.

    Here is a list however of the states that still do imprison people for simple possession.

    Texas..... 180 days to 99 years
    Florida..... 1 to 15 years
    Utah.... 6 months to 15 years
    Missouri....1 year to life
    California.... 6 months maximum if caught with over an oz however it depends on who catches you
  • Heisenberg Chief 2012/07/24 17:34:18
    Heisenberg
    Source?

    You were exactly wrong about California.
  • Chief Heisenberg 2012/07/24 18:11:53
    Chief
    This was as of 2009, these laws however are evolving rapidly and most state have lessened prison sentences dramatically, however the above mentioned states still carry a prison sentence and many of the charges are almost always trumped up by the officer involved. most of this info can be found at Norml or many of the online law firms.

    So you are indeed wrong, as your initial argument was that no state was locking people up for marijuana anymore.
  • Heisenberg Chief 2012/07/24 18:21:43
    Heisenberg
    Source?
  • CLIFF Y... Heisenberg 2012/07/24 20:01:14
    CLIFF YARBROUGH
    What are you going to do? Beat her up for being sweet. In my world, I don't want anyone calling me honeybunch while we're having sex. My mom used to call me that. Know what I mean?
  • Heisenberg CLIFF Y... 2012/07/24 20:05:21
    Heisenberg
    What you did with your Mom is your business.
  • CLIFF Y... Heisenberg 2012/07/24 22:08:17
    CLIFF YARBROUGH
    I assume that you are just being mean because you're a sore loser in this debate. But in case you just didn't understand my implications, I was trying to inform you that "honeybunch" is not really a sexy name to me and that I would not want to be called this during sex. My remark did not call for such a lowbrow, odd response from you. I am so sorry about whatever happened to you in your youth to cause such a Freudian response. Get well.
  • Heisenberg CLIFF Y... 2012/07/24 22:10:28
    Heisenberg
    Thanks for the life advice. I wrote it all down.
  • CLIFF Y... Heisenberg 2012/07/24 22:11:33
    CLIFF YARBROUGH
    Excellent, listening is the first step to recovery. Atta boy.
  • Heisenberg CLIFF Y... 2012/07/24 22:16:56
    Heisenberg
    Thanks sugar-tits. You saved me.
  • Preside... moiraregis 2012/07/23 19:40:14
    President Camacho
    +1
    Casual users don't go to prison.
  • NOva moiraregis 2012/07/23 20:11:31
    NOva
    Hi Sugar! I'm not a republican but I am very right wing. I don't know what Art is, don't care either. All I wanted to point out to you is that social security benefits are paid for by the working people of this country and are not a type of welfare. Medicare is not free either if you are a senior it comes out of your social security check.

    You are right other drugs like angel dust are extremely dangerous and should never ever be legal.

    By the way there are just as many Dems that are off track too. Look at the big picture. Take care!

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