Conservatives of Sodahead: Why do most of you accuse anyone who disagrees with you of being a Liberal?

by 666_Maggots~PassionForGlory BN-1 Posted 2012/07/01 23:04:20

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The Judge 2012/07/02 09:07:57

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Mostly because they can not back up their arguments with facts. they use con talking Points. Commie, liberal, Libtard etc.

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ZB 2012/07/02 05:52:19

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Because they HAVE to label everything to keep their little world straight.

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Beat Magnum True Hero 2012/07/02 05:07:05

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Anyone who has to resort to labeling and name calling has no argument and can not defend their position.

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peaches 2012/07/02 04:43:47

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Right? People try to insult me by calling me a liberal as well.
1) I have zero interest in politics. So I don't label myself as anything.
2) Name calling isn't nice.
3) Being a liberal is no worse than being a conservative.
4) Supporting gay marriage doesn't make someone a liberal.
...So no, I'm not offended by your hate-filled remarks at all...

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flyingseaturtle BN 2012/07/02 04:16:29

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Sometimes people call other people names when they can't win the debate logically.

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just some random guy 2012/07/02 03:19:13 (edited)

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Cause this is 'merca! if you don't think like I do then you are obviously an evil, 'merca hatin' commie lib.

rofl, i couldnt help it

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fisherman 2012/07/02 03:16:10 (edited)
The River Rat 2012/07/02 03:04:52 (edited)

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I see you put that "most" in there just for me. ;)

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L1 2012/07/02 02:05:02

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LOL! They do that because it's a cop out and logical fallacy to name call. To be fair, I have had some liberals call me names too. It's a huge logical fallacy to name call.
Sorry it's happened to you.

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Seiryuu to L1 2012/07/02 02:16:34

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Technically, it's not a logical fallacy if they just call you names. It only becomes a logical fallacy if they associate (support or refute) your points with perceived traits of you

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L1 to Seiryuu 2012/07/02 02:26:24

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That's true IF the names are ONLY relevant to the point, but the author of this poll was asking why she was called something she isn't when they just disagree with her opinion.

Otherwise to state "You are Blank-blank" for disagreeing with an opinion is indeed a logical fallacy. You do not use emotionalisms nor attack with names, but to attack the logic. To do otherwise is to be illogical and lose credibility.

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Seiryuu to L1 2012/07/02 03:03:35

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Exactly. I think you mean irrelevant, though. Usually it's ad hominem when an insult is thrown as a sort-of non-sequitur.

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L1 to Seiryuu 2012/07/02 03:07:24 (edited)

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No, I meant that the names are relevant to the point, i.e. calling someone a bigot after they make blatant points about hating another for their creed, race, etc. if that is what the argument is about.

Insults can also argument by verbosity and that's illogical too. Other than that, calling someone a " Blank-blanker" for thinking and/or posting differently is illogical as well as wrong.

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Seiryuu to L1 2012/07/02 03:31:09

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Ah, you were referring to "it isn't a logical fallacy." That must have been why I was confused.

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L1 to Seiryuu 2012/07/02 03:46:45

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Ah, no. I did not state "it isn't' but rather "it is."

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Seiryuu to L1 2012/07/02 04:00:16

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Wait, it is a logical fallacy? So confused >_<

If it's just name-calling without any arguments exchanged, it isn't. :/

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L1 to Seiryuu 2012/07/02 04:07:02

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You misunderstood me. I put it is a logical fallacy in regards to an argument if it's not relevant to that argument, not the opposite. Name calling without an argument, is just that: name calling.

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Seiryuu to L1 2012/07/02 04:10:25

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Ah, we're on the same boat, then.

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Seiryuu 2012/07/02 01:50:11

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It's easier to focus on the smaller, yet more vocal group of extremists on any side (Westboro Baptist Church, anyone?) than take on the values of the quieter majority that isn't frothing at the teeth whenever something goes against their beliefs. Of course, that generates hypocrisy.

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les_gvt 2012/07/02 01:26:32

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There is a difference between a "Republican" and a conservative.

Just as the Progressives have used the Democrat party to advance their cause, the conservative movement is now having to use the Republican party as our conduit. Before the 2016 election, the conservatives will have their own party, and will take 50-60% of the Republicans base with it, as well as a large portion of the independants, that have refused to join the repugs

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rand 2012/07/02 00:43:49

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As an old Goldwater Republican from when the GOP was the "party of reason", I get called a liberal as well. After they know I'm a Republican, then I am termed, as have been Alan Simpson and Brent Scowcroft, a RINO. Most modern day Republicans never heard of Karl Popper, a father of conservatism, who wrote, "Disagreement is the source of all new knowledge." Most of today's Repubs think they already know it all.

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Neelo 2012/07/01 23:55:55

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politics can jump in a woodchipper. Never discuss politics or religion with people, it causes them to suddenly turn into douches and get butthurt over everything -_-

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IChange... to Neelo 2012/07/09 05:36:06

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No, love. It turns them into "experts."

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Neelo to IChange... 2012/07/09 06:25:49

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god no -.-

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IChange... to Neelo 2012/07/09 06:36:43

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You don't grasp the concept of "quotes" today do you, love? That was sarcasm, you know I love you.

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Neelo to IChange... 2012/07/09 06:38:15

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Shush, don't judge me :P I'm joking, I love you too :)

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♥☯ ʂıoвнaп ☮♥ 2012/07/01 23:47:31

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Because some Conservatives here are too weak-minded to use a real argument.

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Lady Wh... to ♥☯ ʂıoв... 2012/07/02 13:21:05

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agreed

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Lady Whitewolf 2012/07/01 23:47:29

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I get accused of that too! And I consider myself to be a moderate - neither conservative or liberal.

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DFA 2012/07/01 23:37:48

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I get accused of that by conservatives quite often. I'm an independent.

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JohnT 2012/07/01 23:23:52

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For those of us that are Independents with a moderate outlook on stuff sometimes it is funny and other times just ridiculous. I don't think either side holds the keys of absolute knowledge. I take a little from both sides on most of my opinions.

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Pikachu 2012/07/01 23:12:47

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I don't think "most" of us do it, even if a quite a few do. I don't accuse anyone of being of any political affiliation unless they specifically state they are

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666_Mag... to Pikachu 2012/07/01 23:14:25

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Maybe it's just most if the ones I've come across. Sorry if I offended you any.

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Pikachu to 666_Mag... 2012/07/01 23:15:23

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Oh no! Not at all! You were very polite and well mannered about it.

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Jester M.S. 2012/07/01 23:11:54

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In todays world of politics, middle ground is hard to come by with the vast majority of the population. In the last twenty years, politicians have tended to gravitate towards the extremes of each philosophy.

People like Obama and Pelosi of the extreme left, and people like Limbaugh and Santorum on the extreme right.

People jump to conclusions because it escapes their intelligence that anybody could hold opinions that do not conform to the standard dogma. Also, it is much easier to point out flaws in extremist positions, so they think it will be an easier argument to "win".

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ZB to Jester ... 2012/07/02 05:55:01

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How very true...and sad.

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TheCouchF*cker 2012/07/01 23:08:57

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They've bought into the left/right two-ideology con-job. If you're not on their team you have to be on the other. Those that call themselves "liberals" and "progressives" are guilty of it, too.

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kennypart1 2012/07/01 23:07:56

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Some people just want to argue, it must be in their genes.

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⚜3rd Street Boss⚜ 2012/07/01 23:07:38

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Quite frankly Im unsure the difference of the two I just know they like Crips and Bloods in suits!

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Pixie·MzAwesome♠ƤĦĂĔŢ♠ 2012/07/01 23:06:46

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*shrug*

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