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Citizen or Subject?

Dwight PWCM 2013/06/07 16:44:21
I'm a citizen of my Republic, The United States of America.
Government holds the power.
I'm not  US citizen, but I think.....
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It's a simple question.

Are we subjects of our government, or citizens of our Republic?

Our Founders rebelled and fought against a government that believed its "subjects" had no rights or liberties not granted by the Crown.

They believed that Citizens are the source of the power of Government.

Are you a subject, or are you a citizen of the Republic?

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  • P. Sturm 2013/06/15 17:42:57
    I'm a citizen of my Republic, The United States of America.
    P. Sturm
    +1
    Armed citizen.
  • jmc07806-PWCM-JLA 2013/06/10 12:46:40
    I'm a citizen of my Republic, The United States of America.
    jmc07806-PWCM-JLA
    +1
    Although I think that politicians think we are subjects.
  • Jeff 2013/06/08 09:48:13
    I'm a citizen of my Republic, The United States of America.
    Jeff
    +1
    To me I am a citizen. Now what the government thinks of me is another thing.

    The police can now take our DNA without a warrant. Isn't that just ducky??
  • Alexander T Steward 2013/06/08 09:39:49
  • Butch 2013/06/08 07:42:50
  • paul 2013/06/08 04:18:44
    Government holds the power.
    paul
    +2
    I feel like just a Serf serf

    but a serf with a gun..... serf with a gun
  • RubenRi... paul 2013/06/08 16:38:21
    RubenRibnik
    +1
    only if you sit and do and say nothing
  • paul RubenRi... 2013/06/08 16:48:57
    paul
    We are both in Nevada.....did you want the Bill giving illegal aliens drivers licenses to pass? I didn't. I did what I could but........we're Serf's. ilegal alien drivers license
  • none 2013/06/07 23:39:00
    I'm a citizen of my Republic, The United States of America.
    none
    +1
    Never a subject, always a citizen.
  • Luca 2013/06/07 22:42:29
    I'm a citizen of my Republic, The United States of America.
    Luca
    +1
    at least that is how it is meant to be...yet we now have ALL become subjects
  • Kaimeso 2013/06/07 21:16:45
    I'm a citizen of my Republic, The United States of America.
    Kaimeso
    +1
    I am a citizen and trying to keep it that way. But in reality most people are happily subjects of our government and eventually the rest of us will be subjects, or worse.
  • say what? 2013/06/07 18:36:02
    I'm a citizen of my Republic, The United States of America.
    say what?
    +1
    I am a citizen in spite of what some politicians may think.
  • The Spanish Inquisition 2013/06/07 18:16:12
    I'm not US citizen, but I think.....
    The Spanish Inquisition
    +1
    I am an honored subject of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. My rights and freedoms are stretched across more than a hundred old laws and documents. barring certain gun laws, they are extremely similar to that of the USA. the difference between citizen and subject is a very small one. one example: Where you follow allegiance to the USA, mine is to Queen and country.
  • judge 2013/06/07 17:29:54 (edited)
    I'm a citizen of my Republic, The United States of America.
    judge
  • Striker 2013/06/07 17:14:33
    I'm a citizen of my Republic, The United States of America.
    Striker
    +2
    I think it's not that simple.

    For starters, the choice between republic and democracy both are modes of being GOVERNed, a very bad habit. We are supposedly "intelligent" beings, and as such should be both able and free to make our own choices. That would be a Voluntary System, huh?

    Did we even get a choice about "belonging" to a Nation requiring citizenship? Nope!
  • judge Striker 2013/06/07 18:01:30
    judge
    +1
    Republic is representative government, Democracy is mob rule.
  • Striker judge 2013/06/07 18:09:36
    Striker
    Nonsense. There's little difference, both end up with "majority rule" and screw the minority.
  • judge Striker 2013/06/07 18:11:46
    judge
    Democracy is the foulest kind of government there is. The majority votes away the rights of the minorities. A Democracy is not Biblical. It fails to recognize right or wrong, but instead has for its motivating force, the will of the majority. Democracy is mobocracy, and legalizes whatever vices the majority enjoys.
    I don't know why our country encourages the growth of Democracies around the world. God created man and man creates the government. In our country we created a constitution, which is to protect our most basic God given rights, and our government is to be bound by its precepts. The right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is clearly an inalienable God given right, which shouldn't be abrogated to a mob.
  • Striker judge 2013/06/07 18:15:20
    Striker
    +1
    and by which you tried to avoid my comment.
  • judge Striker 2013/06/07 18:30:34
    judge
    You are right when the Constitution is ignored by that "representative government", and when those chosen to represent us have their own agenda. http://qph.is.quoracdn.net/ma...
  • Striker judge 2013/06/07 18:32:30
    Striker
    "When" is always, whether democracy or republic.
    Try Voluntary on for size.
  • judge Striker 2013/06/07 18:49:44
    judge
    As in anarchy?
  • Striker judge 2013/06/07 19:00:16
    Striker
    More or less, yes. Do you really want to be Ruled?
  • judge Striker 2013/06/07 19:09:29
    judge
    +1
    No, but in a sinful world order is required or we would revert to the old west. the old west
    Heaven is yet future.
  • Striker judge 2013/06/07 19:15:08 (edited)
    Striker
    So you assume that Force by Government is best. LOL

    Time to visit my http://no-ruler.net and begin thinking!
  • judge Striker 2013/06/07 20:43:00
  • Striker judge 2013/06/07 20:47:25
    Striker
    You think that's how it really works?
  • judge Striker 2013/06/07 20:49:26
    judge
    With all our presidents but one related to a British king, I'm not so sure.
  • RubenRi... Striker 2013/06/08 16:44:00
    RubenRibnik
    oh so you like the idea of the strongest rule.. hmmm that will only turn to a dictatorship
  • Striker RubenRi... 2013/06/08 18:14:38
    Striker
    Are you sure you replied that to the right person? It sure doesn't apply to me!
  • RubenRi... Striker 2013/06/08 16:42:19
    RubenRibnik
    LOL how old are you??? I do not mean that as an insult, but people were raised different yesterday then they are today. A republic is governed by a few who listen to their citizens, a democracy is ruled by those in power who believe they know what is best for all.. when actually they know nothing at all like this administration, senate and congress
  • Striker RubenRi... 2013/06/08 18:16:11
    Striker
    check my profile, there's a chance to learn plenty if you pay attention. That includes my age. Don't bother me again until you've done that.
  • Sister Jean 2013/06/07 17:04:15
    I'm a citizen of my Republic, The United States of America.
    Sister Jean
    +1
    citizen
  • Theresa 2013/06/07 16:58:57
    I'm a citizen of my Republic, The United States of America.
    Theresa
    +1
    There is no subjects in the USA! Even though some politicians and Bureaucrats want people to believe it is so!

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