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Cincinnati Closer To Lifting Ban On Pit Bulls. Do You Think Cities Should Adopt Breed-Specific Laws For Vicious Dogs?

Tigger Too 2012/04/25 22:18:25
Yes, aggressive dog breeds should be outlawed.
No, any breed of dog can be vicious.
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Vicious Dog Ordinance Would Be Breed-Neutral


Cincinnati is closer to making its vicious dog ordinance breed-neutral by removing all references to pit bulls. The city banned the dogs 11 years ago, but supporters of the breed said pit bull attacks are the result of bad owners who are attracted to a specific type of dog. "Vicious dogs are not breed-specific," said Vice Mayor Roxanne Qualls.



A City Council committee voted to remove pit bulls from the vicious dog ordinance, but it must still be approved by the full council. The change has the support of the SPCA, which said the previous ordinance was flawed from the beginning because it's nearly impossible to determine which dogs are actually pit bulls. The new standards call for stiffer penalties against owners of any dogs that bite people.

DO YOU THINK CITIES SHOULD ADOPT BREED-SPECIFIC LAWS FOR VICIOUS DOGS?

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  • Shae 2012/04/26 16:24:45
    No, any breed of dog can be vicious.
    Shae
    +8
    It is absolutely ludicris for anyone to judge a dog based on their breed.
    I agree that people need to be informed on the correct way to raise a dog, but I also feel that way about children.

    Large dogs are strong. You have to be a strong person to handle one (personality over physical).
    Its only prejudice that helps these claims.

    10 years ago golden retrievers were being overbred and were having temperment problems.... were goldens banned? No, because they are viewed as the "family" dog.

    I myself have a siberian husky and they are labeled on the dangerous dogs list.
    As stated by the ASPCA the temperment of a husky is:
    loving, good with children, easy to care for since they do not eat alot, overly intelligent and horrilbe guard dogs..... this puts them on the dangerous dog list.

    in the 70s it was rotweilers  in the 80s german shepards

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  • Chloey ... Opinion... 2012/05/02 02:57:40
    Chloey Hamer
    +1
    aww. that's so sad. I hate it when any animal is abused.
  • Opinion... Chloey ... 2012/05/02 03:44:17
    Opinionated...Oh Well!!!
    +2
    same here my wife used to work for an animal shelter that cared for abused pits and she had to quit because it was such an emotional ride for her.
  • Chloey ... Opinion... 2012/05/02 03:53:15
    Chloey Hamer
    +1
    I can imagine..I would never be able to do a job like that.
  • Opinion... Chloey ... 2012/05/02 03:56:02
    Opinionated...Oh Well!!!
    +1
    IDK how she did it I would want to take all of them lol but our goal in life is to open our own shelter on our own piece of land but with laws and regulations it makes it almost impossible to do so.
  • Chloey ... Opinion... 2012/05/02 04:09:50
    Chloey Hamer
    +1
    it would be amazing to do something like that! Too bad about the laws and stuff :/
    It would be heaven to be able to work at a place with puppies and dogs Everywhere :)
  • Opinion... Chloey ... 2012/05/02 23:15:58
    Opinionated...Oh Well!!!
    +1
    Not really what you are thinking because when you run a shelter it isnt just puppies and dog a like it also has to do with abuse cases and a lot of other unspeakable acts to dogs. A good friend of mine runs one in OK and my wife is very close to the shelters here where we live in TX
  • Chloey ... Opinion... 2012/05/03 00:55:02
    Chloey Hamer
    +1
    that's cool.
  • Tigger Too Opinion... 2012/05/13 17:51:00
    Tigger Too
    I think that if you live out in the country and have plenty of land, you could probably get away with taking in animals. Those no-kill shelters, which have people who foster dogs and cats until they find a home for them, are great. One type of animal in our area that is becoming neglected and/or abused more often is horses. Some jackasses who own and/or board other people's horses will just vacate their farms and leave the poor beasts behind to starve to death. It's just sickening. Some states are enacting a law to make animal abuse a felony, and I support that decision. I'd rather see those irresponsible creeps be charged for animal cruelty than have people who foster too many animals punished.
  • Tigger Too Opinion... 2012/05/13 17:35:44
    Tigger Too
    I'm a card-carrying member of and regular donor to the SPCA. Still, as much as I love animals, especially dogs, I could NEVER work at an animal shelter. I'd get too upset at all the sad cases of abuse I'd see, and I'd want to take all the animals who weren't adopted home with me! Hell, my mom laughs at me because I won't even tune in to PBS to watch "Nature" anymore, since I can't stand to watch ANY animal (except reptiles!) suffer and die! Therefore, I can certainly see why your wife gave up her job at the shelter. One of my sisters volunteers at one, but I just don't have the strength or temperament to do it.
  • No, any breed of dog can be vicious.
    Pixie·ŸŸMzAwesome♠ƤĦĂĔŢ♠
    +4
    Pits can be the nicest dogs ever it is the owners that turn them aggressive not the dogs themselves!
  • Tigger Too Pixie·Ÿ... 2012/04/26 22:13:18
    Tigger Too
    Exactly! Thanks for your response, Pixie!
  • Beat Magnum True Hero 2012/04/26 19:51:22
    No, any breed of dog can be vicious.
    Beat Magnum True Hero
    +5
    Any breed of dog can be vicious. The thing with Pit Bulls is that their mouths are freaking huge and when they bite, they do some damage.

    Every pit I've encountered however is a big baby that wants a belly rub.
  • Tigger Too Beat Ma... 2012/04/26 22:17:54
    Tigger Too
    My niece has a pit bull who is a big old baby, and he loves belly rubs and ear scratches! He'll come up to you and flop down on his back, and then he looks up at you with big puppy dog eyes and will not budge until you respond with a belly rub! I just love him! Thanks for your comments, Beat Magnum True Hero!
  • Shae 2012/04/26 16:24:45
    No, any breed of dog can be vicious.
    Shae
    +8
    It is absolutely ludicris for anyone to judge a dog based on their breed.
    I agree that people need to be informed on the correct way to raise a dog, but I also feel that way about children.

    Large dogs are strong. You have to be a strong person to handle one (personality over physical).
    Its only prejudice that helps these claims.

    10 years ago golden retrievers were being overbred and were having temperment problems.... were goldens banned? No, because they are viewed as the "family" dog.

    I myself have a siberian husky and they are labeled on the dangerous dogs list.
    As stated by the ASPCA the temperment of a husky is:
    loving, good with children, easy to care for since they do not eat alot, overly intelligent and horrilbe guard dogs..... this puts them on the dangerous dog list.

    in the 70s it was rotweilers  in the 80s german shepards
  • Jazzy Shae 2012/04/26 17:40:54
    Jazzy
    +3
    AGREED!!!
  • Shae Jazzy 2012/04/27 13:11:27
  • Tigger Too Shae 2012/04/26 19:19:14
    Tigger Too
    +2
    I totally agree! The reason large dogs are targeted for breed-specific laws is that, if they ARE vicious, they can rip your throat out, as opposed to small dogs, who can only bite your ankles. I'm a huge fan of "The Dog Whisperer," and I loved old Daddy before he died, and now Junior. I admire Cesar Millan's efforts to save pit bulls from being euthanized and his efforts to debunk the myths about the breed. Thanks for your comments, Shae, and have a beautiful day!
  • Shae Tigger Too 2012/04/27 13:11:20
    Shae
    +1
    Thank you.
  • **StarzAbove** 2012/04/26 15:16:39
    Yes, aggressive dog breeds should be outlawed.
    **StarzAbove**
    +1
    Yes they need to ban forever vicious dogs that bite and maim people.
  • Shae **Starz... 2012/04/26 16:26:29
    Shae
    +2
    Would you also include:
    Standard poodles
    dashaunds
    jack russel terriers
    chihuahuas
    golden retrievers

    that have also been know to harm humans?
  • **Starz... Shae 2012/04/26 16:29:09
    **StarzAbove**
    +1
    Pit bulls specifically, they are a vicious breed, and you know it. They kill. Those that you mentioned or not killers.
  • Shae **Starz... 2012/04/26 16:45:09
    Shae
    +2
    How goldens can be:

    http://www.goldenretrieverfor...
    I put him into the car and he went into a vicious tirade and put a "kill bite" (as opposed to the usual Golden "soft bite") on my arm. He began snapping at small neighbor children 6 months ago. Then a few weeks ago, he tried to maul my adult son, jumping frantically at his arms and face, snapping his jaws, rapidly twisting his body and leaving strings of bubbly saliva everywhere. He has taken to tearing into me like this now, and rarely follows my direction. We have been working with a behaviorist/trainer, but he's actually becoming more vicisous. His last bite at me came through my glove and broke skin. Today at the dog park, a senior golden came up to sniff, and my dog jumped him and mauled him, biting his ear. He was ferocious, deep, loud growling with jaws continually snapping, foaming mouth, etc. He also got on top of the old dog, wrapped his legs around the dog's body and continually snapped into his neck and ears with strong bites. There seems to be a switch in his head that flips, and he turns into a dangerous monster. I have never witnessed a more vicious dog in my 50+ years,

    http://dogtime.com/dog-breeds...
    Poodle Biting is not only dangerous, it can cause it’s owner plenty of heartache and even legal action ...


    How goldens can be:

    http://www.goldenretrieverfor...
    I put him into the car and he went into a vicious tirade and put a "kill bite" (as opposed to the usual Golden "soft bite") on my arm. He began snapping at small neighbor children 6 months ago. Then a few weeks ago, he tried to maul my adult son, jumping frantically at his arms and face, snapping his jaws, rapidly twisting his body and leaving strings of bubbly saliva everywhere. He has taken to tearing into me like this now, and rarely follows my direction. We have been working with a behaviorist/trainer, but he's actually becoming more vicisous. His last bite at me came through my glove and broke skin. Today at the dog park, a senior golden came up to sniff, and my dog jumped him and mauled him, biting his ear. He was ferocious, deep, loud growling with jaws continually snapping, foaming mouth, etc. He also got on top of the old dog, wrapped his legs around the dog's body and continually snapped into his neck and ears with strong bites. There seems to be a switch in his head that flips, and he turns into a dangerous monster. I have never witnessed a more vicious dog in my 50+ years,

    http://dogtime.com/dog-breeds...
    Poodle Biting is not only dangerous, it can cause it’s owner plenty of heartache and even legal action by those who are bitten.
    The Poodle is protective of his home and family, and if strangers approach your house, he'll sound a warning bark to let you know. And although he's affectionate with his family, he may take a while to warm up to new people

    “A study performed by the American Veterinary Medical Association, the CDC, and the Humane Society of the United States, analyzed dog bite statistics from the last 20 years and found that the statistics don’t show that any breeds are inherently more dangerous than others. The study showed that the most popular large breed dogs at any one time were consistently on the list of breeds that bit fatally. There were a high number of fatal bites from Doberman pinschers in the 1970s, for example, because Dobermans were very popular at that time and there were more Dobermans around, and because Dobermans’ size makes their bites more dangerous. The number of fatal bites from pit bulls rose in the 1980s for the same reason, and the number of bites from Rottweilers in the 1990s. The study also noted that there are no reliable statistics for nonfatal dog bites, so there is no way to know how often smaller breeds are biting.”
    (more)
  • Yuki ~ ... **Starz... 2012/04/26 18:18:55
    Yuki ~ ♦Lion King of PHÆT♦
    +7
    Forgive me, but you're extremely ignorant.

    Almost every pitbull I've ever met has been a sweet, adorable dog. Protective, oftentimes yes. But not vicious or inclined killers. Not even some that were rescued from dogfighting rings.

    I've met toy dogs that are more aggressive and prone to bite than most pitbulls.

    Pitbulls certainly are bred to be strong and have the capacity for aggressiveness, but they are not inherently aggressive. They get a bad rap because of bad or irresponsible owners. They really are extremely gentle dogs, when nurtured with love and care.
  • **Starz... Yuki ~ ... 2012/04/26 18:34:04
    **StarzAbove**
    +1
    Good then you can put your baby in the pen with one and see what happens.
  • Yuki ~ ... **Starz... 2012/04/26 19:08:29
    Yuki ~ ♦Lion King of PHÆT♦
    +7
    I gladly would.

    Seriously, the prejudice against pitbulls is absurd. They are the most popular breed for dogfighting rings, but that doesn't mean that they're bred for aggression. The reason they're popular is because they're strong, fast, powerfully muscular, and almost indomitable in spirit and loyalty. They also have short fur, sometimes light-colored, which dog fighters prefer because it means more blood shows up.

    It has nothing to do with the animals being naturally aggressive.

    Now, I HAVE met pitbulls that were aggressive. They have almost all been the direct results of abuse. The ONLY exception was because of neglect-- they didn't know how to care for the dog, so they just built a chain-link fence and stuck the dog in it and thought that would do the trick. They didn't train, care for, pet, cuddle, etc. the dog. Just fed it. Never even took him out. The dog was taken away, rescued, and trained. He's now a loyal, friendly companion.

    The only thing I wouldn't trust with some of those dogs would be another dog. But people? I'd trust them with my life or another person's life.
  • **Starz... Yuki ~ ... 2012/04/26 19:46:43
    **StarzAbove**
    +1
    Then you're the ignorant one or you don't love your child to take such a chance with a vicious dog.
  • Pixie·Ÿ... **Starz... 2012/04/26 20:37:10
    Pixie·ŸŸMzAwesome♠ƤĦĂĔŢ♠
    +6
    are you really that stupid?
  • **Starz... Pixie·Ÿ... 2012/04/26 22:25:26
    **StarzAbove**
    +1
    No I'm not stupid, and I would never put my child in with a vicious dog. Now that's stupid.
  • Yuki ~ ... **Starz... 2012/04/26 20:45:20
    Yuki ~ ♦Lion King of PHÆT♦
    +5
    No. Really, no.

    Your ignorance is astounding. Have you ever met a pitbull in person? Like, really met one? Known someone who owns one and takes good care of it?
  • Opinion... **Starz... 2012/05/02 02:38:48
    Opinionated...Oh Well!!!
    +2
    I am sorry but ignorance isnt the key for this I think the ignorant one is you who has not studied or tried to read into anything except what you have heard from the media hype of dog rings being busted to old facts of people being harmed by a pit when in all actuality people are bit often times more by smaller breed then big ones. Hell I just got bit by a damn chihuahua and he has known me for 3 years and never showed a sign of aggression towards me but bam he bit. Now because he drew blood does that mean i should go and put him down???
  • **Starz... Opinion... 2012/05/02 02:49:29
    **StarzAbove**
    +1
    Have you ever known a Chihuahua to kill someone? No. But pitbulls have killed and maimed quite a few. If you had been bitten by a pitbull you would not be here on SH spouting your nonsense about how safe they are.
  • Pixie·Ÿ... **Starz... 2012/04/26 20:36:18
    Pixie·ŸŸMzAwesome♠ƤĦĂĔŢ♠
    +6
    I would in a heart beat I have never met a bad pit. One of my neighbors has one and my 6 year old plays with her all the time!
  • **Starz... Pixie·Ÿ... 2012/04/26 22:26:07
    **StarzAbove**
    +1
    Do whatever you want and I'll say a prayer for your child.
  • OnyxRaven **Starz... 2012/04/27 09:32:34
    OnyxRaven
    +1
    The only people that need to be prayed for are those who suffer the great misfortune of encountering someone as ignorant and judgemental as yourself. ANY dog can be dangerous, ANY dog is capable of harming a child, only an idiot would say otherwise.
  • **Starz... OnyxRaven 2012/04/27 23:13:03
    **StarzAbove**
    +1
    You'll think differently when you see a child all torn up by those "sweet" little killers.
  • OnyxRaven **Starz... 2012/04/28 00:02:17
    OnyxRaven
    +2
    A child can be all torn up by ANY breed of dog, idiot. Kids have been mauled by golden retrievers for christs sake.
  • Shae **Starz... 2012/04/27 13:14:14
    Shae
    +3
    You shouldn't leave any dog alone with a baby, Pitbull or not, that's irresponsible.
    I wouldn't leave a jack russell terrier or a beagle alone with a baby either.
  • **Starz... Shae 2012/04/27 23:13:17
    **StarzAbove**
    +1
    I wouldn't either.
  • Shae **Starz... 2012/04/30 14:22:19
    Shae
    +1
    My point is that saying you wouldn't leave your child alone with a pitbull doesn't not prove that pitbulls should be banned or that they are any more dangerous than any other dog. I wouldn't leave my child alone with any dog.

    I wouldn't leave my child alone with a hammer and certainly don't feel hammers should be banned.
  • Tigger Too Shae 2012/05/13 18:02:29
    Tigger Too
    +1
    I read a news article once where these two jackass crackheads went off and left their infant and their dog alone in the house. When they returned home [after a couple of days], they found that the dog had killed the baby and chewed off its fingers and toes. The breed of the dog? A miniature dachshund.

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