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Christians: Do you believe in Biblical Inerrancy?

Ron–Born from Above 2012/01/28 01:45:15
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Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy

The Chicago Statement was signed by nearly 300 noted evangelical scholars, including James Boice, Norman L. Geisler, John Gerstner, Carl F. H. Henry, Kenneth Kantzer, Harold Lindsell, John Warwick Montgomery, Roger Nicole, J. I. Packer, Robert Preus, Earl Radmacher, Francis Schaeffer, R. C. Sproul, and John Wenham.

This is the closing statement. The full dissertation can be found here; http://www.bible-researcher.com/chicago1.html

In our affirmation of the authority of Scripture as involving its total truth, we are consciously standing with Christ and His apostles, indeed with the whole Bible and with the main stream of Church history from the first days until very recently. We are concerned at the casual, inadvertent, and seemingly thoughtless way in which a belief of such far-reaching importance has been given up by so many in our day.

We are conscious too that great and grave confusion results from ceasing to maintain the total truth of the Bible whose authority one professes to acknowledge. The result of taking this step is that the Bible which God gave loses its authority, and what has authority instead is a Bible reduced in content according to the demands of one's critical reasonings and in principle reducible still further once one has started. This means that at bottom independent reason now has authority, as opposed to Scriptural teaching. If this is not seen and if for the time being basic evangelical doctrines are still held, persons denying the full truth of Scripture may claim an evangelical identity while methodologically they have moved away from the evangelical principle of knowledge to an unstable subjectivism, and will find it hard not to move further.

We affirm that what Scripture says, God says. May He be glorified. Amen and Amen.
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  • Barefooted Nana ∞ijm♥∞AFCL 2012/01/28 02:05:54
    Yes, because...
    Barefooted Nana ∞ijm♥∞AFCL
    +12
    The Bible was not man's words it was given to man through the Holy Spirit. If one really reads the Bible it is not just what one man's says because you can verify everything in it by reading it all. The Old Testament predicts what is to come recorded in the New and it is also the history of mankind & much more accurate that what modern man has come up with. The New Testament verifies the Old as well as giving us instructions for everyday living and what is to come.

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  • TombstoneJim 2012/12/05 15:29:55
    No, because...
    TombstoneJim
    Of all the transcription errors made from Hebrew, to Greek, to English. The amount of influence of the council of Nicaea and Constantine on content. I do think that much of the life of Christ is portrayed to a fair degree of accuracy, and wish we had all the missing books mentioned in the KJ version.....

    It appears to me that much of the dogma disagreements among Protestant and Catholicism derive from exactly these issues…..infant baptism, sprinkling water for baptizing, paid ministry, celibate priest, infants that die going to hell, pergatory or not to pergatory….etc….
  • Ron–Bor... Tombsto... 2012/12/05 16:38:39
    Ron–Born from Above
    The New Testament manuscripts are eminence, and attest to the authenticity of the Bible. There are but a few verses that are questionable and don't effect doctrinal matters of faith.

    You have to understand that evangelicals understand church history through the eyes of the early church and the early fathers of faith. The Scriptures indeed already consisted of an accepted canon, so the Catholic Church nor Constantine brought us anything special or unique at all!

    Twenty out of the twenty-seven books were readily and universally accepted as genuine, and therefore called "Homologoumena" (i.e. acknowledged). These twenty books were the four Gospels, the Acts, the epistles of Paul (except that to the Hebrews), and the first epistles of John and Peter.

    The other seven books--Hebrews, 2 and 3 John, 2 Peter, Jude, James, Revelation--were disputed for a time by particular churches, and were therefore styled "Antilegomena" (or disputed). The Church accepted what had already affirmed before the counsels and creeds. In fact, you could put together, except one page the entire New Testament from the early fathers of faith quoting Scripture. The original autographa still existed until the second century.

    The question at issue with regard to the books called "Antilegomena," was not so much that o...







    The New Testament manuscripts are eminence, and attest to the authenticity of the Bible. There are but a few verses that are questionable and don't effect doctrinal matters of faith.

    You have to understand that evangelicals understand church history through the eyes of the early church and the early fathers of faith. The Scriptures indeed already consisted of an accepted canon, so the Catholic Church nor Constantine brought us anything special or unique at all!

    Twenty out of the twenty-seven books were readily and universally accepted as genuine, and therefore called "Homologoumena" (i.e. acknowledged). These twenty books were the four Gospels, the Acts, the epistles of Paul (except that to the Hebrews), and the first epistles of John and Peter.

    The other seven books--Hebrews, 2 and 3 John, 2 Peter, Jude, James, Revelation--were disputed for a time by particular churches, and were therefore styled "Antilegomena" (or disputed). The Church accepted what had already affirmed before the counsels and creeds. In fact, you could put together, except one page the entire New Testament from the early fathers of faith quoting Scripture. The original autographa still existed until the second century.

    The question at issue with regard to the books called "Antilegomena," was not so much that of the canonicity of the writings, as whether they were really written by the men who were called their Authors

    As for the missing books, we will never know anything about them, as they are lost in the world of antiquity.

    The Catholic Church has been in an apostate state from the beginning. They usurp tradition over Scripture. They are notorious for forming doctrine from obscure passages from Scripture. This is a hermeneutic disaster. Scripture must have attestation from other Scripture.

    People need to know that Christian Theology is rooted in Scripture. These same Scriptures have given way to many cults that use obscure passages to form heterodox doctrine.

    I hope that I've answered your questions in a way that you may understand. : )
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  • Tombsto... Ron–Bor... 2012/12/05 19:17:34
    TombstoneJim
    +1
    I understand exactly what you said, and I appreciate you taking the time to record such a response. I accept Jesus Christ as the Only Begotten Son of God in the flesh, and I recognize His absolute authority over humanity. I do not believe the Heavens to be closed. I do not believe that for over 2,000 years God is dealing with mankind in a different manner than he did for all the previous epochs of history. Now, that is what I think, with no disrespect intended.

    I did enjoy the brief Latin lesson from all the “Antilegomena” and “hermeneutic”…..seems like you attended a seminary? Those are all words I hear tossed about by scholarly folks concerning the historic path taken by the various text of the collection of books known as the Bible. In my studies, albeit bereft of such language as you utilized, I found that Constantine and Nicaea gave Christianity the concept of a “triune” God, the removal of ordination by the laying on of hands by one holding authority for authority….and several other future issues for Martin Luther and others to remark on much later.

    Not quite the cast aside occurrence that you portrayed, at least that has been my findings I have hope that some of the lost books maybe yet forthcoming from archeological digs in the future…but I’m not holding my breath.

    ...
    I understand exactly what you said, and I appreciate you taking the time to record such a response. I accept Jesus Christ as the Only Begotten Son of God in the flesh, and I recognize His absolute authority over humanity. I do not believe the Heavens to be closed. I do not believe that for over 2,000 years God is dealing with mankind in a different manner than he did for all the previous epochs of history. Now, that is what I think, with no disrespect intended.

    I did enjoy the brief Latin lesson from all the “Antilegomena” and “hermeneutic”…..seems like you attended a seminary? Those are all words I hear tossed about by scholarly folks concerning the historic path taken by the various text of the collection of books known as the Bible. In my studies, albeit bereft of such language as you utilized, I found that Constantine and Nicaea gave Christianity the concept of a “triune” God, the removal of ordination by the laying on of hands by one holding authority for authority….and several other future issues for Martin Luther and others to remark on much later.

    Not quite the cast aside occurrence that you portrayed, at least that has been my findings I have hope that some of the lost books maybe yet forthcoming from archeological digs in the future…but I’m not holding my breath.

    I read and study daily, have my family and private prayers, and live my life as well as I can in compliance with His instruction as I understand them to be…..love, compassion, service to others….list the Beatitudes if you will…..and ask forgiveness everyday for my shortcomings, then rely upon His Atonement to make up the difference...I have faith that all will be well with me and mine in following this simple frame work for a lifetime. I sure hope I don't have to pass a Latin test :-).
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  • Ron–Bor... Tombsto... 2012/12/05 19:54:22
    Ron–Born from Above
    I have studied extensively the historic view of theology and church history. Both from an evangelical and catholic view point.

    Your source for your studies must be rooted in what is orthodox in Christianity. You will find many sites that claim what you say, but are not authoritative, but just someone who doesn't know their history very well. Many try and paint Christianity in a very different light.

    It is great that your family has that thirst for God!!! :) Many families just go to church, and the rest of the week you wouldn't know that they were Christian.

    Thank God that we have freedom in Christ, but with that freedom comes a responsibility.

    God Bless†
  • Tombsto... Ron–Bor... 2012/12/05 20:00:51
    TombstoneJim
    +1
    I don't rely on the internet for very much "real" information on historical matters, more along the line of Herodotus and other actual histories...
  • sonofason 2012/12/05 01:36:42
  • Ron–Bor... sonofason 2012/12/05 01:48:56
    Ron–Born from Above
    +2
    Very good sonofason!

    Far too many people don't believe in inerrancy today in the church.
  • sonofason Ron–Bor... 2012/12/05 01:51:14
  • Purple Pinto ~PWCM~JLA 2012/02/08 04:57:51
    Yes, because...
    Purple Pinto ~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    The ancient Hebrew scripts reveal amazing patterns of 7, as I learned from Chuck Missler. Pretty overwhelming to imagine such patterns being created by any ancient human much less a group of them. Particularly long before simple paper, pencils, erasers, etc. Even today, this type of patterning cannot be recreated with computers.

    http://www.differentspirit.or...
  • Ron–Bor... Purple ... 2012/02/08 16:58:18
    Ron–Born from Above
    +1
    Amen Pinto!

    I checked your site out, and found it to be very good resource. Thanks for sharing!

    God Bless you†
  • Roger 2012/02/02 01:45:50
    I just don't know...
    Roger
    +2
    i tried to look up the word inerrancy, and could not find it in my webster. you ever notice the word web stear,,neat uh. the bible in the english language has shown the art in which the word resounds with the rythm and ryhme that gives us much in the art of poetry and music. the bible was, and is conducive to that art the past to the present, carries the words forward for preperation of the ressurection. the communication that will result from past to future will be comprehenable.
  • FREED Jesus is LORD♥ 2012/02/01 15:20:18
    Yes, because...
    FREED Jesus is LORD♥
    +4
    I'm thankful you mentioned this post to me yaz because I didn't see it.

    1. The Bible itself claims to be perfect. “And the words of the Lord are flawless, like silver refined in a furnace of clay, purified seven times” (Psalm 12:6). “The law of the Lord is perfect” (Psalm 19:7). “Every word of God is pure” (Proverbs 30:5 KJV). These claims of purity and perfection are absolute statements. Note that it doesn’t say God’s Word is “mostly” pure or scripture is “nearly” perfect. The Bible argues for complete perfection, leaving no room for “partial perfection” theories.

    2. The Bible stands or falls as a whole. If a major newspaper were routinely discovered to contain errors, it would be quickly discredited. It would make no difference to say, “All the errors are confined to page three.” For a paper to be reliable in any of its parts, it must be factual throughout. In the same way, if the Bible is inaccurate when it speaks of geology, why should its theology be trusted? It is either a trustworthy document, or it is not.

    3. The Bible is a reflection of its Author. All books are. The Bible was written by God Himself as He worked through human authors in a process called “inspiration.” “All scripture is God-breathed” (2 Timothy 3:16). See also 2 Peter 1:21 and Jeremiah 1:2.

    The ...



    I'm thankful you mentioned this post to me yaz because I didn't see it.

    1. The Bible itself claims to be perfect. “And the words of the Lord are flawless, like silver refined in a furnace of clay, purified seven times” (Psalm 12:6). “The law of the Lord is perfect” (Psalm 19:7). “Every word of God is pure” (Proverbs 30:5 KJV). These claims of purity and perfection are absolute statements. Note that it doesn’t say God’s Word is “mostly” pure or scripture is “nearly” perfect. The Bible argues for complete perfection, leaving no room for “partial perfection” theories.

    2. The Bible stands or falls as a whole. If a major newspaper were routinely discovered to contain errors, it would be quickly discredited. It would make no difference to say, “All the errors are confined to page three.” For a paper to be reliable in any of its parts, it must be factual throughout. In the same way, if the Bible is inaccurate when it speaks of geology, why should its theology be trusted? It is either a trustworthy document, or it is not.

    3. The Bible is a reflection of its Author. All books are. The Bible was written by God Himself as He worked through human authors in a process called “inspiration.” “All scripture is God-breathed” (2 Timothy 3:16). See also 2 Peter 1:21 and Jeremiah 1:2.

    The issue is not simply “Does the Bible have a mistake?” but “Can God make a mistake?” If the Bible contains factual errors, then God is not omniscient and is capable of making errors Himself. If the Bible contains misinformation, then God is not truthful but is instead a liar. If the Bible contains contradictions, then God is the author of confusion. In other words, if biblical inerrancy is not true, then God is not God. And THAT is why people attack God's Word. This issue reflects on the character of God and is foundational to our understanding of everything the Bible teaches.

    We are commanded to study the Word (2 Timothy 2:15), and those who search it out are commended (Acts 17:11). Yes, there are difficult passages in the Bible, as well as sincere disagreements over interpretation but that is from our perspective not God's. He is unchangeable and watches over His Word to see that it accomplishes what He sends it to do. (Isaiah 55:8-11)

    God Bless you yaz
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  • Wayne FREED J... 2012/02/01 15:50:01
  • Ron–Bor... FREED J... 2012/02/02 00:20:15
    Ron–Born from Above
    +3
    Amen and Amen!

    A true scholarly evaluation of Biblical inerrancy, Amen! In these latter days Biblical inerrancy has come under attack, even from within the evangelical circles. These are the same people that will allegorizing and spiritualizing Scripture to make it say whatever they want them to say.

    Thanks for a great discourse Freed! : )

    God Bless you my FRIEND in Christ† : )
  • FREED J... Ron–Bor... 2012/02/02 15:42:38
    FREED Jesus is LORD♥
    +2
    Look at what is on the forefront for a new Bible. Unbelievable!
    http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/ne...
    God bless you my dear friend
  • Wayne FREED J... 2012/02/02 17:36:52
    Wayne
    +1
    I appreciate you sharing this with yaz so that we can all reap the benefit in this good information. Nothing amazes me concerning the foolishness floating around in the "Christian" world anymore. I want to look at this site more and read more of the comments in it. Thank you, Freed for the help you give and this reference. God bless. Amen.
  • Purple ... FREED J... 2012/02/08 04:41:49
    Purple Pinto ~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Beyond unbelievable, Freed. I'd venture to say heretic and disrespectful to our Lord God and Jesus. To alter His Holy Word to avoid offending a cult?
  • sonofason FREED J... 2012/12/05 01:39:41
  • doc moto 2012/01/31 19:18:10
    Yes, because...
    doc moto
    +3
    Yes, because God said it was so and it was so...From the Older writings to the fulfillment in the not so newer writings. Things, events have come to past; not for us to judge but for us to know that He is a God that Keeps His Word...His Word gives us History, a True Story of what is happening and what is Going to Happen!
  • SK-LIBERTY OVER EQUALITY 2012/01/28 16:19:16
    Yes, because...
    SK-LIBERTY OVER EQUALITY
    +4
    I believe it is inerrant. there are no contradictions in The Word of God. Only in that God shows himself contradictory when man contradicts His Word and ways.

    Ps 18:26
    With the pure thou dost shew thyself pure; and with the perverse thou dost shew thyself contrary.

    Leviticus 26
    21 'Then, if you walk contrary to Me, and are not willing to obey Me, I will bring on you seven times more plagues, according to your sins.
    22 I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, destroy your livestock, and make you few in number; and your highways shall be desolate.
    23 'And if by these things you are not reformed by Me, but walk contrary to Me,
    24 then I also will walk contrary to you.....
  • Ron–Bor... SK-LIBE... 2012/01/28 16:40:34
    Ron–Born from Above
    +5
    Amen Ron!

    God is not a God of confusion, but man is the source of all confusion.

    God Bless you†
  • SK-LIBE... Ron–Bor... 2012/01/28 17:24:21
    SK-LIBERTY OVER EQUALITY
    +2
    ACK! you called me Ron! LOL
  • Ron–Bor... SK-LIBE... 2012/01/28 19:20:35
    Ron–Born from Above
    +3
    Sorry SK...LOL!
  • Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA 2012/01/28 13:31:29
    Yes, because...
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    +6
    It is the infallible Word of God.

    There are over 24, 000 ancient copies of portions of the New Testament. The closest in all other books is Homer's Iliad, which has 643 ancient copies

    The Bible does not have any contradictions within it. Some people will claim there are contradictions, but when you ask them about it, they have a hard time naming them.

    There is a Roman historian named Tactitus and a Jewish historian named Josephus that both support the historical accuracy of the Bible. There were also 17 secular historians, who wrote about the death of Jesus by crucifixion. This could not have been made up by men, and shows that external historical records support the Bible.

    There is no historical mistake anywhere in the Bible.

    There are archeological finds that would not have been located if it were not for the Bible. There have been more than 25,000 archaeological findings relating to people, places, and events in the Bible. And believe it or not, not one of them has contradicted anything in the Bible.
  • Ron–Bor... Torchma... 2012/01/28 16:43:44
    Ron–Born from Above
    +5
    Amen Torchmanner!

    Scripture bears witness to its own character as God's Word.

    God Bless you Always†
  • Reality-Check 2012/01/28 10:01:05
    No, because...
    Reality-Check
    the bible was written by a Lawyer a Doctor a Philosopher and a Priest all very clever people who have the educational tools to make one thing sound like another...

    so the bible is nothing more than a moral guide to life.. there are no facts in the scriptures...
  • Torchma... Reality... 2012/01/28 13:34:37
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    +5
    Hitler was a devout evolutionist and didn't believe in God either. (That's why he murdered millions of Polish Jews and Christians.) Same with all communists.

    "National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things."--Adolf Hitler
    published by Farrar, Straus and Young, Inc.first edition, 1953
  • Reality... Torchma... 2012/01/28 14:11:40
    Reality-Check
    Very interesting off topic post... explain..
  • beachbum Torchma... 2012/01/28 15:51:34
    beachbum
    +5
    Interesting. Wonder how he came up with Christianity being an invention of the Jew since there are a couple of major differences..........but, then, not much of what Hitler did many any sense whatsoever.
  • Ron–Bor... Reality... 2012/01/28 16:44:39
    Ron–Born from Above
    +3
    You broke the rules of engagement. This is for Christians.
  • Reality... Ron–Bor... 2012/01/28 17:04:56 (edited)
    Reality-Check
    aww poo... and you're going to post this to all who are non-christian?

    because if you're not I'll assume cyber-bulling. social discrimmination Racism and report you...

    LMFAO this is an OPINION FORUM... Get a life...
  • Ron–Bor... Reality... 2012/01/28 17:15:54
    Ron–Born from Above
    +2
    Just you, for you make no sense.
  • Reality... Ron–Bor... 2012/01/28 17:35:36
    Reality-Check
    I expect nothing less from you...
  • Ron–Bor... Reality... 2012/01/28 19:29:55
    Ron–Born from Above
    +6
    You come swaggering into my post only exposing your ignorance of the subject and your intolerance towards Christianity.

    To give truth to one that does not desire truth is to give them multiple reason for misinterpretation.
  • Reality... Ron–Bor... 2012/01/28 19:50:15
    Reality-Check
    Swaggering and exposing my ignorance.. really?

    And i suppose you took a Theology Degree at Cambridge University, became a Minister and the decided to hang up your collar for a real life huh...

    don't posture and procrastinate in my presence little man...

    Walk a few miles in the shoes of a very educated Minister before you decide to take cheap shots.. ok?
  • Ron–Bor... Reality... 2012/01/29 17:10:47
    Ron–Born from Above
    +5
    Everyone is a theologian to some degree about their world-view. For you it is matter in motion in a chance universe. For the Christian, it is God that holds and stands behind everything. The Christian God has given His word ultimately in Jesus Christ, that God knows all facts and is able to interpret reality authoritatively to us that correlates to the human experience.
  • Reality... Ron–Bor... 2012/01/29 17:15:21 (edited)
  • IndyLinda Ron–Bor... 2012/01/29 21:45:57
    IndyLinda
    +2
    Ahem -- betting that's a minister in the Church of Satan.
  • Purple ... IndyLinda 2012/02/08 04:49:17
    Purple Pinto ~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    You could very well be right, IndyLinda.
  • Purple ... IndyLinda 2012/12/05 14:48:19
    Purple Pinto ~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    He may indeed be a former minister that hung up his collar, but from his posts and venom, one can clearly see it wasn't because a kind, level headed, loving individual found a truth he didn't previously have.

    This one tries to be as hateful, vulgar, profane, and evil as he can legally get away with here on SH. LIke he's recruiting for the dark side or something. His purpose is to draw out the anger of you and I and to taunt the faithful. No, there is no love for his fellow man there and there likely never was in the first place.

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