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CHILD MARRIAGE LAWS (LGBT movement) and religion in the United States..... would you let your "minor age" daughter marry someone of a religion that believes its okay here in the United States?

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CHILD MARRIAGE LAWS (LGBT movement) and religion in the United States..... would you let your "minor age" daughter marry someone of a religion that believes its okay here in the United States?
a. "there is no minimum marriage age for either men or women in Islamic law..."
b.  yes, i know, Hillary Clinton went overseas to discuss this already in what country, can anyone remember?
c. 8-to 10 years of age?(according to the video)  (thats all right for you? what about LGBT (lesbian, gay, bi-sexual transgender) islams?)
d. oh yeah....  abortion at "any age" acceptable still?
e. give your lengthy opinion on how you feel that the LGBT movement and religious views "might" open the door to a "train wreck" of tragedies in the United States.  but, you know, i HOPE im wrong.
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  • Couri 2012/05/12 17:33:01
    Undecided
    Couri
    +1
    Why is the LGBT community being lumped in with Children being married? That is no way a part of their movement. Also, Mary was 14 when she was to marry Joseph, so who are you to judge others religions?
  • stevegt... Couri 2012/05/12 19:04:49
    stevegtexas@aol.com
    well......i thinki the concern is that gays or lesbians will try to, "marry" children to make their sexuality ideals acceptable for everyone. There is a real problem with groups already saying that its a problem for a man and a woman to live together without being married.....these groups have already been lobbying washington and other states and pressuring people to allow this stuff...i guess in another 20 years well know....but dont count on it...i dont think there are too many stats on child marriages here in the United States????of course i could be wrong?
  • Couri stevegt... 2012/05/12 19:24:50
    Couri
    No, they won't. Do you really thing that's what LGBT communities are trying to do? They just want marriage to be legal between members of the same sex across the country. They don't want to marry kids nor do they want it to be legal to marry kids. Seriously, I actually have a gay friend of mine right here and he's just shaking his head at the stupidity.
  • stevegt... Couri 2012/05/19 20:12:33 (edited)
    stevegtexas@aol.com
    i wasnt really "judging" thats for the judges in courts....just raising the question about religions having low ages for marriage......and the NEW LGBT movement.....will it be a problem for the future? you know, older people marrying younger people? seems scary...without knowing the complete law about it, maybe i need to better undrestand the law....but you know..... i wouldnt want someone from a "religion" trying to marry my grand children who are 8, 10, or 12 you know what im saying? (just using those ages as an example). Not trying to cause a problem, just seems odd to me. Normal with you?
  • All American 2012/05/12 15:55:44 (edited)
    e. give your lengthy opinion on how you feel that the LGBT movement and relig...
    All American
    Islam, the religion of pedophiles. What a gutter belief system. Hey, you libbies, do you still defend the so-called religion?

    Here's what Mohammed did with his 6 year old bride:

    http://sheikyermami.com/aisha...
  • addie 2012/05/10 23:28:59
    Undecided
    addie
    +1
    It is PEDOPHILES (most of who are straight, but some are gay) that want to marry and/or sleep with children, not Homosexuals or the LGBT's.

    Just sayin'.
  • stevegt... addie 2012/05/19 20:15:17
    stevegtexas@aol.com
    or certain religions.... you didnt watch or read the video.
  • addie stevegt... 2012/05/19 23:47:05
    addie
    I did watch it, but I do not remember much of it anymore.
    Christainanity allows for pediphilia. Overtly and secretly, so what is your point? Seriously.
  • Vision of Verve 2012/05/10 22:07:58
  • BerryColor 2012/05/10 20:01:39 (edited)
    a. "there is no minimum marriage age for either men or women in Islamic law..."
    BerryColor
    +2
    That's roughly true….but there is no law in Islam that says you (can't) put an age limit if there is a clear benefit to it or to avoid damage which is above all laws in Islam "لا ضرر ولا ضرار" "There should be neither harm nor malice"…times have defiantly changed and what worked a thousand years ago doesn’t necessarily have to work now..but some people trap their heads in a mindset and never get out of it. I, as a Muslim, find that ridicules !
  • addie BerryColor 2012/05/19 23:50:20
    addie
    +1
    You do not have to be Muslum to find these generalizations, these huge assumptions stupid. Don't worry.
  • BerryColor addie 2012/05/20 17:17:01
    BerryColor
    Thanks I guess :)
  • Walaa 2012/05/10 19:30:15
    e. give your lengthy opinion on how you feel that the LGBT movement and relig...
    Walaa
    I'd like to comment about how this is related to Islam, Prophet Mohammed did marry a minor, however on the olden days standards that was acceptable even in the west women before were more responsible and mother-like than girls are now and to change of time we adjust to the mantalities as well. Muslims in some countries not all have no age limmit, in Bahrain where I live there is its 17. In Saudi there isnt, apparently they simply believe its fine because they want it to be. And thats where people relate their culture to their religion.
  • stevegt... Walaa 2012/05/10 19:43:58 (edited)
    stevegtexas@aol.com
    thanx! what concerns me here in the united states is, that with all of the Gay and lesbian movements going on....these groups will push children into marriage at early ages under the guise of religion.... especially religions where the age of marriage has been determined to be acceptable at "earlier ages" ALL without interference??? a scary thought indeed. 5/2012
  • Walaa stevegt... 2012/05/10 19:55:49
    Walaa
    Yes true, but there are other religions other than Islam. It may seem to silly but its like feeding the stereotype about muslims "ignorance", I just wanted to clear that out dont blame me its where I came from.
  • Dave The Canuck 2012/05/10 19:02:21
    e. give your lengthy opinion on how you feel that the LGBT movement and relig...
    Dave The Canuck
    My (and I strongly feel nobody's) underage daughter is NOT getting married. Period. Wait till she's an adult. WHY should a child, who does not even understand what sex is, be getting married? A child engaging in sexual relations with an older adult is pedophilia. Period. Calling the partners a husband and wife does not change the nature of the act.
  • Bastion 2012/05/10 18:03:00
    Undecided
    Bastion
    +1
    What does "CHILD MARRIAGE LAWS (LGBT movement)" mean?
  • Margaret Jacobson 2012/05/10 17:53:03
    e. give your lengthy opinion on how you feel that the LGBT movement and relig...
    Margaret Jacobson
    NO MINOR should be able to marry ... YOUNG PEOPLE need to be aqble to explore themselves and grow...Get an EDUCATION, form RELATIONSHIPS(friendships), grow emotionally, without being married to anyone in the guise of religion !! Child marriages are EXPLOITIVE OF THE CHILD !! WOMEN need to be able to walk away from "abusive" relationships, they need to be their own persons, have the ability to have their own opinions (without their "husbands" input).....WOMEN NEED "SELF EMPOWERMENT" Besides religious laws are NJOT the law of the land..........CIVIL LAW COUNTS FOR ALL HERE ..........LET IT STAND !!!!
  • merlinskiss 2012/05/10 16:37:25
    e. give your lengthy opinion on how you feel that the LGBT movement and relig...
    merlinskiss
    Religious law has no place in America and should not be considered. I am all in favor of protecting those that can not protect themselves. What is sad is that we have to protect innocent children from their so called parents.
  • Andy 2012/05/10 15:45:11
    e. give your lengthy opinion on how you feel that the LGBT movement and relig...
    Andy
    No matter what religion... there still needs to be age regulations. Churches don't grant marriage licenses... the state or county does. This is a civil matter...lets be CIVIL and not put minor children in harms way!!
  • stevegtexas@aol.com 2012/05/10 15:35:28
    e. give your lengthy opinion on how you feel that the LGBT movement and relig...
    stevegtexas@aol.com
    NO. i wouldnt. there should still be age limits for marriage, and the LGBT movement opens up the door to the potential of laws being chachanged to PUSH in the direction of children being married under the guise of religion and these same people will push to have new laws made that will make it legal... think it wont happen?
  • Yosyp stevegt... 2012/05/10 15:40:35
    Yosyp
    I thought laws aren't suppose to be made in the US because of religion, Christianity , Islam or whatever, so why would this be an issue , or are you saying because some people use religon as why they are against gay marriages, is it sarcasim?
  • stevegt... Yosyp 2012/05/10 15:42:06 (edited)
    stevegtexas@aol.com
    it must be secular marriages they are talking about eh? (like in a courtroom or something) what did you think about it? justice of peace
  • Yosyp 2012/05/10 15:35:19 (edited)
    Undecided
    Yosyp
    +1
    A child does not have the maturity to make such a decision.

    I'm not undecided, your other choices didn't work for me
  • stevegt... Yosyp 2012/05/10 15:43:40
  • sjalan 2012/05/10 15:30:26
    a. "there is no minimum marriage age for either men or women in Islamic law..."
    sjalan
    +1
    And NO I would not allow it. And additionally I would charge any person who would try to do that with child endangerment and corruption.
  • stevegt... sjalan 2012/05/10 15:44:42
    stevegtexas@aol.com
    well....thats where the LGBT gay marriage approval concerns me.....its opening the door to.........
  • Yosyp stevegt... 2012/05/10 15:49:42
    Yosyp
    Why would it? A child isn't ' mature to make such decisions, maybe I'm missing the sarcasm, I don't know.
  • stevegt... Yosyp 2012/05/10 19:49:30 (edited)
    stevegtexas@aol.com
    no, no sarcasm. the concern (at least nby me) is that these LGBT movements opening the door to different marriages will also open the door to religious groups marrying children of any age under religious beliefs.....maybe it ALREADY has........? hope that makes my position clear. Like transgender bi-sexual groups marrying peoples children without parents having the right to reject if the child makes a religious choice. (according to these religions, its all right to marry at any age)
  • sjalan stevegt... 2012/05/10 15:55:04
    sjalan
    NOT AT ALL. What is going to open the door to Islam in the US, and already has, is the installation of religious based laws and constitutional amendments based upon religious dogma, doctrine and beliefs. ie blending of church dogma, doctrines and beliefs and state laws as has been happening for the last 30+ years. Prior to this period very little major attempts to install religious law into civil law has taken place. The result will be that all the members of Islam will have to say, "will you did it for Christians you're discriminating against us based upon our religion"

    Our country MUST build a bulwark of separation between the Government and Religion that cannot allow the blending between the two. If it is allowed we will be no better off than when our courntry was first founded. ie the duality of rulership of the English Crown and Chruch of England
  • Turings... sjalan 2012/05/10 18:55:38
    TuringsChild
    Then we'd better abandon the Sacrament of Marriage to the churches and embrace Civil Unions as the STANDARD for legal purposes.
  • Yosyp sjalan 2012/05/10 21:01:58
    Yosyp
    gay marriage has nothing to do with religion, churches don' t have to perform cermonies, the catholic church for example don't have to marry divorced people., atheist marry and that has nothing to do with religion, marriage has been around long before the 3 major religions of today.

    There is a big difference between two adults rather they are opposite sex or same same sex gettiing married and allowing children who are not mature enough to make decisions, not even comparitable and no court in the western world would force a child to marry an adult.
  • sjalan Yosyp 2012/05/10 21:34:04
  • Yosyp sjalan 2012/05/10 21:37:19 (edited)
    Yosyp
    my comment was for the religious people who claim marriage is all about religion, I say it's not... I guess I should have said marriage is not about religion.
  • sjalan Yosyp 2012/05/10 22:02:24
    sjalan
    "Civil Marriage" is a "basic civil right" and is a "civil contract of civil marriage" as governed by the US Constitution and the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 14th Amendments to the US Constitution.

    The "religious rite of marriage" is governed by the dogma, doctrines and beliefs of whatever religious organization a couple would so choose to submit themselves.
  • Yosyp sjalan 2012/05/10 22:15:57 (edited)
    Yosyp
    +1
    there are some churches or religions that will marry gay couples, even if you want to say marriage is a religious thing. but marriage has been around long before the 3 major religions we see today, atheist get married, to them religion has nothing to do with it.
  • sjalan Yosyp 2012/05/10 23:40:33
    sjalan
    Yep it sure has First recorded laws governing the civil law concept were in the Law Code of Hammurabi circa 1750BCE

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