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Can you prove that people choose to be homosexual?

Simeon~thegaymafia 2012/06/21 04:20:12
So many people like to make the claim that homosexuals choose to be that way, but all I see is rationalization of a few lines in the Bible in attempt to take the "blame" for homosexuality off of God, because God doesn't make mistakes and doesn't make homosexuals. So they assume that being gay is a choice because it must be a sin you choose. In other words, it is an argument out of convenience.

Yet I have never heard anyone prove that being gay is a choice. Can you prove that a homosexual made a choice when they claim they didn't? How is this done? What makes your claim more valid than theirs? If they say they didn't choose it, why do you assume they are lying and how can you prove they are lying? I am genuinely curious because all I see is a lot of empty words and no proof.
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  • Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~ 2012/06/21 13:20:52 (edited)
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    +4
    There is no proof. The 'proof' People have is the Bible and attention seeking people who pretend to be gay, then switch back. Neither of which that are in any way believeable.

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  • METALheadMom 2013/01/19 10:59:28
    METALheadMom
    WELL, I'll tell you what. WHEN YOU CAN PROVE otherwise, like isolating the chromosome or gene that makes you "gay" before you even know a THING about sex, you'll end up being the richest gay on earth!
  • Lydecho Rain (Лидия) 2012/11/19 03:39:47
    Lydecho Rain (Лидия)
    No. I think that sexual orientation is either something you or born with or that you develop very early (first five years or so) in life. Someone may not realize it until they are older, though.
  • Alexander T Steward 2012/09/10 17:08:38
    Alexander T Steward
    WTF would choose to be discriminated against?!
  • sjalan 2012/07/10 03:44:37
    sjalan
    Nobody can prove that people Choose to be homosexual.

    On the other hand it has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the structure and pathways of the brain of homosexuals is indeed different.
  • Me 2012/07/03 03:46:24
    Me
    nooo
  • TheHushedScreamer 2012/06/30 21:26:03
    TheHushedScreamer
    +1
    One cannot prove that which is not true.
    It's funny to know that some heterosexuals think that homosexuals chose to be this way when it's not them. They judge and say from what they see, but what they see is not enough. One can only trust the judgment of those who have and are experiencing. I am a pansexual/skeliosexual girl who can say with complete certainty that one does not choose to be homosexual.
    If we could, wouldn't you think we'd choose to be heterosexual? It's easier. One wouldn't have to go through the hate, the rejection, the isolation, the discrimination...
  • bags th... TheHush... 2012/07/01 01:41:14
    bags the Indigenous Guru
    +1
    I'm so glad I read your post before I posted. You've said it so much better than I. I have watched people of all sexual identities (save for heterosexual) be mocked, battered, abused, tortured, raped and killed for nothing other than that one thing......and usually by heterosexuals. How could anyone think that this is a choice, that as teens who desperately want to be accepted and loved, would make? We are who we are.

    Many cultures see you and others like you as two souls people, and honor you for that. In some cultures you would be seen as a holy person.
  • TheHush... bags th... 2012/07/01 01:52:44
    TheHushedScreamer
    +1
    I completely agree. I, too, have seen such horrible, hateful crimes being committed against those who can't help but love who they love. I mean, my country's very anti-LGBT. So once you publicly announce that your sexual orientation is not heterosexuality prepare to receive buckets full of hate. There was this unfortunate news of a transsexual named Ashley who was killed for the sole reason that she was transsexual.
    Yes, it's either by heterosexuals or jealous exes.
    People who think that are seriously stupid.

    About the cultures, do you mean they "glorify" those who do those things to homosexuals?
  • bags th... TheHush... 2012/07/01 13:43:31
    bags the Indigenous Guru
    No. They see transexual/pansexuals as two souls people - the souls on man and woman both in one body. Lakotah Sioux called them Winkte, the Cheyenne Hemaneh, Eastern tribes - Berdash. They were/are holy persons and have honor amongst the people and certain tasks all to them specifically.
  • TheHush... bags th... 2012/07/02 03:27:39
    TheHushedScreamer
    +1
    Oh! Now I get it.
  • Kibbles 2012/06/30 21:19:42
    Kibbles
    I never had a choice when it came for me to be straight. One day I was watching Power Rangers when I was four and thought that the pink ranger was extremely pretty and I had a crush.
  • BlondeAphrodite 2012/06/30 18:42:10
    BlondeAphrodite
    its so rediculous i can choose to be attracted to anyone that makes no sense
  • Psyblade 2012/06/30 15:42:51
    Psyblade
    +1
    I don't understand why straight people think they know better than gay people whether or not they chose to be gay. How does that even make sense? I think they would know better than anyone.

    If sexual orientation was really a choice, then straight people could choose to stop being attracted to the opposite sex and force themselves to be attracted to the same sex.
  • Queen B 2012/06/30 13:20:06
    Queen B
    Can you prove that people choose to be heterosexual....or are they just born that way?
  • Kim(: 2012/06/30 10:01:24
    Kim(:
    Who cares!?! I have gay/lesbian friends and They are wonderful but Im sick and tired of hearing about gay that and gay this. Do you know why most people hate homosexuals? Its because Alot of them think the world surrounds them and always talks about how their gay and how the world should surround them i dont care to hear it!!! i dont care gif
  • Kim(: Kim(: 2012/06/30 10:09:37 (edited)
    Kim(:
    Oh and if people were born gay everyone would be bi so no you choose to be but the world has made people believe that they are born gay but there not. You are born with feeling right? So take those feelings: hatred, sadness, anger, happy and many more. Now you have a choice to be happy mad or sad. Thats like homosexuals they have a choice whether to be gay or not and if you are born with it you can fight it or is something forcing you? All this crap about people being born gay is a huge lie. The only reason humans believe that is because if a person hears ANYTHING over and over and over. Their brain will make them believe its true. So basically its all in their head
  • Simeon~... Kim(: 2012/06/30 22:04:37
  • Kim(: Simeon~... 2012/07/01 01:18:23
    Kim(:
    Ok I said it wrong. Ok do you know why people are "born with i"? Yeah its hormones some boys have more girl hormones then boys and same with girls expect with boy hormones and even if you didnt want to be gay you could go to hormone therapy or whatever its called and they give you a shot or pill of more girl or boy hormones. Now im not saying gayness is a disease , I support gay rights, but all im saying is some people are born with it but it can be "treated" sorry cant think of better words. So i guess yeah some but your never forced i was bi and maybe i still am but i fight it cause i dont care for loving girls.
  • Simeon~... Kim(: 2012/06/30 22:04:05
    Simeon~thegaymafia
    First of all, "most people" don't hate homosexuals. You're just trying to find an excuse for hatred. The people that do hate homosexuals hate them because of a few lines in the Bible that they don't even understand themselves.
  • MissJo 2012/06/30 09:28:53 (edited)
  • Darlin' 2012/06/30 09:20:58
    Darlin'
    +1
    sexual orientation is not a choice
  • Willski 2012/06/30 09:03:49
    Willski
    i can't, but so far as i know that's genetic.
  • vampire_lord 2012/06/30 08:39:05
    vampire_lord
    you can't prove something that is not true. you don't look @ someone and think "she's quite nice, i want to spend years leching after her" its a sudden realisation when you fall in love, no matter which gender u or they r
  • wtxwoman 2012/06/30 08:35:40
    wtxwoman
    No, they can't prove it because it's not true. Just because someone says something, even if they say it with conviction, doesn't make it true.
  • nothingbutthetruth 2012/06/30 08:05:35
    nothingbutthetruth
    +1
    No,I can't prove a thing, and neither do you!
  • Depsycho 2012/06/30 07:59:49
    Depsycho
    +1
    I don't understand where anyone gets the idea that we can just CHOOSE our orientation.

    That's like saying we CHOOSE what foods we like and what colors we favor... really, we don't. Our bodies natural senses do, and sexual attraction is no different.

    What we find appealing really isn't something we CHOOSE to find appealing, it's a course of nature.

    I will however say some have forced themselves to choose - peer pressure from your own family expectations for example - but deep down they know what they like, and they still like it, it is only covered up and buried.

    I will also say this world today can alter the perception of children and sexuality with the openness - when I was in high school, kids would change their sexuality more often than their underwear. It was ridiculous, and it was shameful to see kids treating sexual preference as if it were a fad.

    Regardless, deep down, we know what we like and no one can change that - not even ourselves, really. We can attempt to, but as I said, it's only burying the truth. I.e.: If a gay man marries a woman to appease his family with high expectations, that doesn't change the fact that he is gay.
  • thecutesttentacle 2012/06/30 07:51:47
    thecutesttentacle
    +1
    no, you can't. because it's not true.
  • Eric Albertson 2012/06/30 07:47:03
    Eric Albertson
    +2
    I think that some choose to be homosexual, and some are born homosexual, or some just become homosexual.
  • Astro Eric Al... 2012/06/30 08:00:05
    Astro
    +1
    some are born great, some achieve greatness, and other's have greatness thrust upon them? Is that what your saying? Replacing Greatness with Homosexuality. I ain't flaming you Eric, I'm actually agreeing with you, in another format.
  • Eric Al... Astro 2012/06/30 08:19:16
  • waternymphxD 2012/06/30 07:45:16
    waternymphxD
    +1
    No. It would be so much easier for people if they were straight so that comment does not make much sense:)
  • ~HopelessRomanticM17~ 2012/06/30 07:43:23
    ~HopelessRomanticM17~
    +1
    Can you prove that they are born with it??
  • Astro ~Hopele... 2012/06/30 08:01:42
    Astro
    +1
    There is actual proof, though some is stipulation, others are psychological findings. Now answer the question and prove that it is a choice.
  • ~Hopele... Astro 2012/06/30 08:12:09
    ~HopelessRomanticM17~
    +1
    We'll I really don't know if it is or not. But either way, does it really matter?
  • Simeon~... ~Hopele... 2012/06/30 16:35:38
    Simeon~thegaymafia
    +1
    Who says that the only options are "born with it" or "choice"? Why do people completely ignore the possibility that it could be due to environmental influences and it could be something that you develop?
  • ~Hopele... Simeon~... 2012/07/03 01:31:06
    ~HopelessRomanticM17~
    I completely agree with that. I've always said that I think it's environmental more than anything else.
  • art1ej 2012/06/22 03:37:46
    art1ej
    +3
    The proof is in the bible because its real, is in our history & everything that its chosen....
    *SARCASM...no one chooses to be straight or gay,its just that religions have brainwashed the sheep that follow them to believe that its a choice....
  • Cantus_bird 2012/06/21 13:35:42
    Cantus_bird
    +1
    Can i prove that people choose to be homosexual? .... for myself, why would i want to do that. It is enough for me to state my position that i do not support the gay lifestyle and leave it at that. Beyond that it then becomes a contentious battleground that i don't want any part in at all. My objective is to live my belief system not to make it a battleground of contention.
  • Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~ 2012/06/21 13:20:52 (edited)
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    +4
    There is no proof. The 'proof' People have is the Bible and attention seeking people who pretend to be gay, then switch back. Neither of which that are in any way believeable.

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