Can Texas Secede from the Union?

They can but who's going to support them?

This is probably the DUMBEST question ever posed on SodaHead! Are you folks getting crazy or what? The only thing dumber are the folks who answered YES!

It was more a rhetorical question than anything else. I did put a video where it was established that secession is not legal.

I did not believe people would still say YES though and yet...

I dont know..Can Texas even do that ? What R they? The Quebec of the USA South..Que
-bec threatened 4 yrs to secede from Canada..But never does..And with all that oil in that state..I dont think the US Gov't will allow that..But if they want 2 B there own free country.. They think it'll B so much to try it (B their own country)..Then fine..We will miss all that oil & the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders..But fine..No more federal aid & welfare support..Oh..& they can deal with the flood of illegal aliens..We'll move the border fences & walls up to New Mexico, Oklahoma, Louisiana & Arkansas borders..

Who cares??? It would be a joy to watch them squirm without their Federal handouts. I would be anxious to see how they come up with Social Security and Medicare for the elderly and disabled...not to mention how they handle their next hurricane. I don't think it would take very long for TX to want back in the Federal security blanket.

ive read what has been said there by others and have also heard that Texas as something writen into their constitution about being able to sperate un-like the other 49 states. i don't know if this is true or not.

That is not one of their 'state's rights'.

I believe that there is a legal way for a state to secede ... but I think it takes a lot more than a petition to do so ... and I doubt that they are that stupid ... hey maybe Mexico would take them back and depending on treaties we may or not help them ... they aren't as tough as they think they are .. they would have to rely on state militias for protection federal forces or equipment may not be available to them as as a foreign nation... depending on treaty ... and based on the last time I lived in the southwest their neighbors might not jump right in

God I hope so!

If they put enough effort into it and had millions more people,..maybe...but seriously doubt that.If it were possible,we would have been divided long before now.

Not that I'd mind if they could. They receive more federal money than they pay in, and I feel sorry for the kids forced to undergo kooky science classes. Plus, their governor is so loony he makes Bush look like the model of logical reasoning.

I met a girl from texas back in the late 60s and she thought that canada was part of the United States and New Mexico was still part of Mexico ... she could have been anomalous but based on the stuff I here from that state I wonder

LOL. She fits right in.

Not legally, anyhow.

It can't secede unless the Union lets it go.

If you're an interstate truck driver, you'd better hope not.

Not without a fight, anyway--as was established in our Civil War.

legally, no. But I really don't give a rat's ass if they did. Good luck to them.

Legally any state can secede from the union at any time however there are many complications with that, and very few states are capable of "going it alone". That being said, if Texas wants to do that, I for one wouldn't miss them.

Not so, there is NO legal right to secede in US law. Seceding would break law. That's why we had a Civil War, and a legal outcome of the Union winning that war.

Last I knew the Civil War wasn't over the state succession (that was actually done legally) it was over the right of taxation of the Southern States by the Northern States (Southern states where being taxed to the breaking point by Northern states and being forced to sell their raw goods at highly elevated prices, which was one of the major southern sticking points that led to the secession movement to begin with.).

Granted, the current signature page being passed around the less educated parts of Texas doesn't qualify, but they can still petition to secede if they want (and if the other 49 states don't want them in then they get to leave). The petition is, as far as I'm aware, nice and legal. Granted, the movement would probably fail before it ever reached the Texas State Assembly due to a lack of popular support.

Though on the flip side of things... do you really want states like Texas (and the Texas Governor) to remain in the Union if they really did want out? I'd love to see how fast their economy fails and they have to come back to petition for readmission to the US (at which point the US would likely stick them with some pretty harsh penalties in the treaty deal as a punishment for being that stupid). Wouldn't you love to see Rick Perry on his knees in front of the US Senate, begging to have his nation brought back into the fold before Mexico gets ideas of conquest?

You heard wrong. The taxation issue was real, but minor. Secession was NOT legal--as the Union and Lincoln proved. Secession happened because The South feared Lincoln would lead the North into banning slavery. The War was in large part fought over the right to secede (in the beginning), as well as slavery (later on). Lincoln often said, initially, that his whole goal was to preserve the union (and prove secession not legal). He/we did so.

As to forcing modern Texas to remain in the union, I'm not so sure. I do think that if Texas really wanted to leave and we found a way to let them go that they should be billed IN FULL for all US government items they want to keep (like land, roads, buildings, weapons, etc.), and I wonder if Texas could pay that much--at LEAST they would start out with a big deficit to pay us.

I like that idea, and thank you for the correction. You're making me wanna look this stuff up and read up on it. History, astronomy, science... all so fascinating!

Cool. I'm ALL for studying-up and education. The Civil War has long fascinated me. Be aware that my opinions, while fairly well informed, are still debated by high-level professors and historians (you can find stuff from them on C-SPAN online). You just can't assume Lincoln was right because he won. My own opinion tends to be that, "the War may not have totally been due to slavery--but it's likely it would not have happened if slavery had not existed." That's a judgment call, though. In fact, it was just in the last 3-4 weeks that I saw mention of the Civil War tax issue on C-SPAN (I'd not heard of it before), and while the questioner of the expert clearly thought it critical, the expert answerer made it CLEAR that it was not a central issue.

The loss of the Civil War by the rebels settled this. It is illegal to secede.

It is the settled law of the land. Those not caring for their parties loss may leave the country - no law against that - But they may not take the land that makes up American territory with them.

That's all she wrote.

Texas can do anything. One Texan is worth 49 Americans.

agreed

Please enlighten me.

No, not over my head. More like beyond your ability to explain.

Ahh... I said more than just that so I was wondering. Have you been to CT? I have spent plenty of time in Texas.

You just don't get it do you?

You still don't get it. That's why you keep resorting to insults. Oh well...