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California's 'Bullet Train to Nowhere': Will California Build It?

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Will California build the approved Bullet Train? Or will California's economic woes and the ridiculous politics of Big Labor Unions and Environmentalists scuttle the bullet train?
Ambitious plans for a fast track linking Los Angeles and San Francisco at speeds of up to 220mph in just over two-and-a-half hours were slimly approved by 53 per cent in a statewide ballot in 2008. That allowed the state to raise $10 billion from bonds and secured an injection of $3.5 billion in stimulus money from the Obama administration. There is currently no direct train route between the two.

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  • frank 2012/06/05 19:17:06
    California Will Build Bullet Train
    frank
    +4
    Governor "Moonbeam" Brown will push like h*ll to spend money we don't have

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  • poet4justice 2012/06/12 18:24:15
    California Will Build Bullet Train
    poet4justice
    but they should build in the outskirt of the city
  • strange_armour 2012/06/06 20:33:29
    Bullet Train to Bite the Bullet
    strange_armour
    I don't have a lot of faith in American workmanship. I don't see it happening.
  • DM Twin 2012/06/06 15:52:04
    Bullet Train to Bite the Bullet
    DM Twin
    Doubtful they have the will or money to build this debacle... but it IS california...
  • Mike 2012/06/06 15:49:55
    Bullet Train to Bite the Bullet
    Mike
    same thing will happen in Florida with this waste of money high speed rail. It will be a novelty at first but will soon be a big burden on the tax payer
  • Charlie 2012/06/06 05:42:36
    California Will Build Bullet Train
    Charlie
    +1
    No state is better at wasting money as mine.
  • RogerCoppock 2012/06/06 03:08:59 (edited)
    California Will Build Bullet Train
    RogerCoppock
    +1
    California's high speed rail is mostly apposed by airline money.
  • S and S 2012/06/06 00:53:01
  • Soup Man 2012/06/06 00:38:41
    Bullet Train to Bite the Bullet
    Soup Man
    not on my dime I hope
  • WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/06 00:15:56
    Bullet Train to Bite the Bullet
    WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA
    Hopefully they will learn from their mistakes? They never seem to, but one can have hope.
  • The Pro 2012/06/05 23:10:30
    Bullet Train to Bite the Bullet
    The Pro
    As a Californian I believe it needs t bite the bullet. We are on the verge of insolvency and the Federal Grant is no where near the cost of the project.
    Jerry Brown is delusional. Once again some lame bond measure passed by uniformed voters. It is going to bring NO relief to our overburden roads and I do believe it will be cheaper to fly in to Frisco at the end. Seriously we need to wake up here.
  • relic 2012/06/05 21:08:16
    California Will Build Bullet Train
    relic
    California is run by dumbocraps. Of course they plan on building it.
  • Centrist_Bill 2012/06/05 20:14:11
    Bullet Train to Bite the Bullet
    Centrist_Bill
    Its never going to get built.
  • Idiot repubs 2012/06/05 20:12:28 (edited)
    California Will Build Bullet Train
    Idiot repubs
    Only fools would call LA to San Fran a train to nowhere. I'm waiting for the mag-lev from Baltimore to DC.
  • flyingseaturtle BN 2012/06/05 20:08:56
    California Will Build Bullet Train
    flyingseaturtle BN
    +1
    I think the train would be a good thing. I don't know if the train will be built ;-)
  • aherbert 2012/06/05 19:52:10
    California Will Build Bullet Train
    aherbert
    +2
    This will not only ease congestion on the freeways ... it will add additional jobs throughout the state ... this is a great thing! Heck I drive the 405, 5 and 805 ....

    california bullet train
  • relic aherbert 2012/06/05 21:12:03
    relic
    But, will YOU ride the train? The projections are for nearly 4 times the riders of the NY to DC trains so they can justify it. How likely do you think that really is?
  • aherbert relic 2012/06/05 21:24:19
    aherbert
    Very likely ... yes I would ride the train. We build the coaster train and my kids and I ride it often ... easy transportation and you get to your destination faster ...

    california coaster train
  • bob h. 2012/06/05 19:51:27
    California Will Build Bullet Train
    bob h.
    +3
    Why not, it's a Federal grant. Obama offered it to Rick "OC" Scott in Florida, but Scott has all his hopes tied up in Medicaid fraud, so CA got it. But CA has it's budget tied up in prisons. But if it comes to pass they'll be first in Hy-Speed rail, right after Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria,China, Finland, Germany, Greece, Italy, Netherlands, Japan, Russia, So. Korea, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey, Taiwan, UK, Uzbekistan. California leads.
  • relic bob h. 2012/06/05 21:09:32
    relic
    The Federal Grants WILL cover maybe 10~15% of the costs, why not further bankrupt California?
  • TruBluTopaz 2012/06/05 19:46:45
    California Will Build Bullet Train
    TruBluTopaz
    +2
    Given that California is a liberal state, run by and for liberals without any consideration for why they are building it, where the money will come from or even if there's enough popular support to sustain it once built, there's little doubt in my mind that they will build it. Not only that, but it will end up being featured in one of Obama's campaign speeches as an example of a shovel ready job produced by QE3 at the expense and to the detriment of taxpayers across the nation. Think of it as The Big Dig with train cars.....
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
  • relic TruBluT... 2012/06/05 21:12:42 (edited)
    relic
    +1
    Exactly!
    (The cost overrun of the Big Dig will pale in comparison.)
  • TruBluT... relic 2012/06/05 23:11:02
    TruBluTopaz
    +1
    And it will take so long to build thanks to environmental protection laws and NIMBY groups that the technology will be obsolete by the time it's done.
  • relic TruBluT... 2012/06/05 23:12:55
    relic
    +1
    They tried multiple alternate routes to run it to San Diego, the environmentalists scremed about all of them. They dropped the San Diego link instead.
  • TruBluT... relic 2012/06/06 02:16:23
    TruBluTopaz
    +1
    Of course there's that little problem of a huge Marine base north of San Diego right in the way. And then there's the danger to the many illegals who cross the highway without warning. Can you imagine the carnage with a high speed train?
  • bob h. TruBluT... 2012/07/15 21:01:31
    bob h.
    Obsolete....Have you seen an AmTrak train lately?
  • bob h. TruBluT... 2012/07/15 21:00:37
    bob h.
    Or, think of it as a major source of employment that will serve to actually benefit every class of people. Or as Flush Limbaugh wails: it's Socialism.
  • TruBluT... bob h. 2012/07/16 01:37:35
    TruBluTopaz
    And who is going to ride that train in the car mecca of LA? It makes no sense to build something nobody's going to ride. And nobody will ride this train high on cocaine or not.
  • bob h. TruBluT... 2012/08/18 01:35:39
    bob h.
    You've decided no one will ride it before it's even built??? You must have Nancy Reagan's astrologer.
  • TruBluT... bob h. 2012/08/19 01:40:09
    TruBluTopaz
    Come on. California is a "car culture" And beyond that there's the issues of gangs seeking to control similar transit. If you price it too high to keep them off, you defeat the goal of ridership. Sorry, but that's reality.
  • sjalan 2012/06/05 19:32:28
    California Will Build Bullet Train
    sjalan
    +3
    When the people of California realize it will mean more than 200000 perment full time jobs and some 200000 part time jobs. PLUS between 400-650000 jobs over the 10 years of construction there will be considerable rethinking on the discontent of the people.
  • TruBluT... sjalan 2012/07/16 01:39:39
    TruBluTopaz
    No project like this ever runs on time or budget. If you think of this as a baseline cost, the taxes to fund it will absolutely drive whatever manufacturing remains out of the state. Moonbeam can't tax anymore homeowners because they are already upsidedown. Business are so overtaxed in Cali that they've been leaving in droves. This bullet train is more like a bullet in the brain for Cali's economy.
  • frank 2012/06/05 19:17:06
    California Will Build Bullet Train
    frank
    +4
    Governor "Moonbeam" Brown will push like h*ll to spend money we don't have
  • Kyra 2012/06/05 19:15:46 (edited)
    California Will Build Bullet Train
    Kyra
    +2
    Who knows.... but california always leads you somewhere, You must be thinking like Sarah Palin who sees Russia from her porch. California has something everywhere... unlike Alaska.
    sarah
    californa beach
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  • MadAsHEck Kyra 2012/06/05 19:30:13 (edited)
    MadAsHEck
    +1
    Ignorant statement. She never said that. Tia Fey did, and the idiots in the world used it as a smear.

    http://www.snopes.com/politic...

    She is however correct in what she did say. You indeed can see Russia from parts of Alaska. I've been to Kotezbue, and other parts.

    But a California Hillbilly would not know that. And I can call you that, as I lived in Grass Valley, and you are in hill country, therefore a Hillbilly. Same premise. Both rather ignorant. And in no way pertinent to the subject.
  • Kyra MadAsHEck 2012/06/05 19:35:47 (edited)
    Kyra
    +3
    LOL... Sarah Palin did say that and she DID build the most worthless bridge to nowhere. California's trains at least lead you some where.





  • MadAsHEck Kyra 2012/06/05 20:07:17
    MadAsHEck
    +1
    Typical Hick. given facts, refuse to accept them.

    Your original statement "Sarah Palin who sees Russia from her porch."

    What she did say ""They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska":

    Your a very ignorant person.

    Ignorance can be corrected with education. It is stupidity that is forever. You are exhibiting Stupidity with your posts.
  • Kyra MadAsHEck 2012/06/05 20:38:00
    Kyra
    Who lost this debate???
    The person who throws the first insult.... you lost an hour ago.
  • MadAsHEck Kyra 2012/06/05 20:52:00 (edited)
    MadAsHEck
    +1
    Being called ignorant is not an insult as I stated. It is a method of point out that a person made a statement that should have been researched prior to making it. And found to ba false as I proved.

    Being called stupid however is an insult, meaning that you are not willing to accept that you were incorrect in your statement and/or unwilling to learn from your mistaken statement. .

    Therefore there is no winner or loser here actually. Except you who seem to be the one that is making ignrorant statements one right after the other.

    Hick. "rural, rustic, and unsophisticated: remote from big cities and regarded as lacking in sophistication" Not necessarily an insult, but pointing out your lack of sophisticated thought.

    And Hillbilly "Hillbilly is a term referring to certain people who dwell in rural, mountainous areas of the United States"

    So everything I said that you interpret as insults, and just pointing out the gist of your posts as they are able to be interpreted. Ignorant and unsophisticated.
  • Kyra MadAsHEck 2012/06/05 20:57:43
    Kyra
    You prove you have no class and cannot have a normal debate without name calling.
  • MadAsHEck Kyra 2012/06/05 21:16:18
    MadAsHEck
    Just the facts child. Can't live with facts, then get out of the conversation.

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