..........but it doesn't go far enough. They should take the phones away and make a school learning institution, not a party.
When I was in school, you could get expelled for cursing, smoking, bullying, fighting, smart-mouthing, being continually late, skipping class or just generally being anti-establishment. School management today is full of wooses who seem to nee zero tolerance rules to be able to make a decision.
Children, growing up with no restrictions, are products of Anarchy and never learn to respect rules. Subjects like this one shouldn't even be in question...... and that's my opinion.
California Wants to Expel Students for Sexting: Is It a Good Idea?
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If you're sexting during school, you may want to put the phone down -- before you get expelled.
According to Babble, California wants to get tougher on sexting -- or sexy text messaging -- and they're looking into a serious consequence.
State senators unanimously passed a bill that would allow school officials to expel students for sexting. Calif. state Sen. Ted Lieu, who introduced the bill, says sexting is a growing problem in California schools, with 20 percent of teens reportedly sending nude or semi-nude pictures of themselves via text.
Is expelling students for sending a sexy text the answer?
According to Babble, California wants to get tougher on sexting -- or sexy text messaging -- and they're looking into a serious consequence.
California Senate votes to make sexting grounds for expulsion.
State senators unanimously passed a bill that would allow school officials to expel students for sexting. Calif. state Sen. Ted Lieu, who introduced the bill, says sexting is a growing problem in California schools, with 20 percent of teens reportedly sending nude or semi-nude pictures of themselves via text.
Is expelling students for sending a sexy text the answer?
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Tom 2011/06/03 14:09:31Yes




















But besides that, the teachers are teachers, not cops or super-censors. Let them teach. Let them confiscate the phones until the school day is over. But don't make them try to decide what's "sexy texting" and what isn't.
Schools should act against texting during classes PERIOD, and not initiate illegal viewpoint-based discrimination by singling out only "sexy" texts for punishment.
Administrations have no business nosing in on personal letters/notes; that is invasion of privacy-against the Constitution and a federal offense.
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BTW, can't we make schools a "dead zone" for cell phones? That would solve the cell phone problem. No taking pictures of tests, no "Come to the lav." messages. Gee just room in the school day for learning.
Schools get involved because the student body is in such upheaval because of the "sex" pictures/video and the viral distribution of them. You guys on the "outside" think about the "crime" - but teachers panic over the kid or kids involved. Why the deviate behavior? Did someone get the kid drunk and then take advantage? Is it a kid who's been raped? Is it a kid on the verge of suicide? Can this kid be saved? Is someone enticing these kids to "sext", and the dumb kid doesn't realize the consequences? like FOREVER!
That said, there are at least two big problems with this. First is that yet another nanny state (not surprising that it's a state like California) makes the decision to legislate a penalty regarding an issue which is outside government purview. If a kid is sending that type of message to someone else, whether it's during school hours or not, it's something their family should handle. All that a school should need to do is temporarily confiscate the phone and notify the parents.
Secondly, this is another in a long line of poorly thought out no tolerance policies which have not resulted in improving the schools or student performance. I have yet to see where suspensions, and/or expulsions for things like hair color, drawing "threating" stick figures, and other equally criminal acts, has helped to better educate students in the slightest. I have no doubt that in time there will be cases of kids getting expelled for something that wasn't sexting, but was taken as such or thought to be close enough to count by a clueless school staff member.
It's somewhat ironic that the same people who support minimum sentences for certain criminal offenders in are unanimously in...
That said, there are at least two big problems with this. First is that yet another nanny state (not surprising that it's a state like California) makes the decision to legislate a penalty regarding an issue which is outside government purview. If a kid is sending that type of message to someone else, whether it's during school hours or not, it's something their family should handle. All that a school should need to do is temporarily confiscate the phone and notify the parents.
Secondly, this is another in a long line of poorly thought out no tolerance policies which have not resulted in improving the schools or student performance. I have yet to see where suspensions, and/or expulsions for things like hair color, drawing "threating" stick figures, and other equally criminal acts, has helped to better educate students in the slightest. I have no doubt that in time there will be cases of kids getting expelled for something that wasn't sexting, but was taken as such or thought to be close enough to count by a clueless school staff member.
It's somewhat ironic that the same people who support minimum sentences for certain criminal offenders in are unanimously in favor of maximum penalties for non-criminal students. There is also a certain hypocrisy in the democrat dominated California senate unanimously deciding that students should be expelled for the something that's considered acceptable behavior for a democrat member of the U.S. congress.
In the first place, there can hardly EVER be a reason why a student should be using a phone in school. (exception: I once had a senior who was a volunteer fireman.) It should be put in the locker at the start of school and not retrieved until school ends. If a parent (or work) needs to contact a student, he/she can either call the school and have the message relayed - or he/she can leave a message that the kid can get at the end of the school day.
School is for learning. Like school stuff. Not for the free lunch. Not to be with your friends. And, not to be a place where mom and/or dad can leave you for babysitting. (And, oh, tell the teacher that she can't correct the exposed butt, boobs, or belly!) Certainly not a "studio" to create "porn".
Unfortunately, SEXTING doesn't originate (usually) in school. It doesn't seem "fair" that a "crime" committed one place, should remove you from some place else.
SEXTING - sending or receiving sexually explicit "data" - is scary. (and long-lasting) While it's yet again another life lesson the politicians are trying to dump on the schools, I'm not so sure simple expulsion will work. But, if expulsion is enforced, I would go after not only the "perpetrator" of t...
In the first place, there can hardly EVER be a reason why a student should be using a phone in school. (exception: I once had a senior who was a volunteer fireman.) It should be put in the locker at the start of school and not retrieved until school ends. If a parent (or work) needs to contact a student, he/she can either call the school and have the message relayed - or he/she can leave a message that the kid can get at the end of the school day.
School is for learning. Like school stuff. Not for the free lunch. Not to be with your friends. And, not to be a place where mom and/or dad can leave you for babysitting. (And, oh, tell the teacher that she can't correct the exposed butt, boobs, or belly!) Certainly not a "studio" to create "porn".
Unfortunately, SEXTING doesn't originate (usually) in school. It doesn't seem "fair" that a "crime" committed one place, should remove you from some place else.
SEXTING - sending or receiving sexually explicit "data" - is scary. (and long-lasting) While it's yet again another life lesson the politicians are trying to dump on the schools, I'm not so sure simple expulsion will work. But, if expulsion is enforced, I would go after not only the "perpetrator" of the SEXT, but also whomever he/she was with at the time, as well as every kid who forwarded the pictures / message.
Some kind of enforced counseling (while REMOVED FROM THE SCHOOL ENVIRONS) is at least a start on trying to make the point that this is destructive, and somehow un-fixable behavior.
The problem with this is less the action of sexting itself, and more the government overstepping it's bounds yet again. Guiding the behavior of children should primarily be the responsibility of families rather than governments.
Unless more is involved than simple sexting, expulsion seems like an excessively harsh punishment in terms of the act. Your suggestion of enforced counseling is less
draconian, but still seems somewhat extreme. Who would enforce it, and how would they do so?
Here's the point. If kids commit a crime outside of school, the courts handle it. If the kids commit a crime IN school, often the school (at the insistence of the parents) covers it up. Without appropriate professional attention. You can see why people want someone to FIX this, so they go in with a sledge hammer. EXPULSION (keeping a kid out of public school for that year and possibly for the rest of his/her school career) sure seems too severe, but SOMETHING should be done. For the sake of the sext-or, and to send a message to any other kid out there thinking about it. Let's face it, it IS deviate behavior.
SEXTING is the attack on the dignity of a person. You might even call it a form of BULLYING. It makes no difference that the kid may be doing it herself. (or hImself) And, with the forever and ever nature of the internet, those pictures will be around to haunt the young person ALWAYS. Talk about child abuse.
As for sexting itself, it is not necessarily deviant behavior as you state. As in most things, the context and surrounding facts need to be considered. For example, if Weiner was sexting with his wife it would be considered a very different situation than if he was sexting with that seventeen year old. While it all might be considered undesirable behavior, consensual sexting between school aged kids is very different than unsolicited, unwanted, malicious, etc., sexts sent to a particular individual. In reality that should be true regardless of age group.
You've mentioned professional and enforced intervention as a means of dealing with this issue. As with expulsion, this too is a dis...
As for sexting itself, it is not necessarily deviant behavior as you state. As in most things, the context and surrounding facts need to be considered. For example, if Weiner was sexting with his wife it would be considered a very different situation than if he was sexting with that seventeen year old. While it all might be considered undesirable behavior, consensual sexting between school aged kids is very different than unsolicited, unwanted, malicious, etc., sexts sent to a particular individual. In reality that should be true regardless of age group.
You've mentioned professional and enforced intervention as a means of dealing with this issue. As with expulsion, this too is a disproportionately strict measure unless there is much more to an individual instance, e.g. an ongoing pattern of threatening sexual texts, or accompanying stalking behavior, etc. A tenth grade couple exchanging sexts does not warrant professional counseling or professional anything, based upon that fact alone. It warrants their families talking to the kids, and perhaps the other kid's family. Kids sometimes don't think things through or do stupid things because they're kids. Though some parents might argue this, being a teenager is not a mental disorder. They should be taught the potential cost of a poorly thought out actions and how to apply good judgment when using the internet, not subjected to draconian punishments for the “crime” of being kids.
Beyond the problem of increasingly frequent government intrusion where it doesn't belong, what gets me most is the blatant hypocrisy. Politicians can cheat on their spouses, tell ridiculously transparent lies in effort to cover their infidelity, and have little or nothing happen to them for it. Yet these politicians want to hold students who have not yet fully matured, to standards far in excess of those that they hold themselves to. More of the “do as I say, not as I do” and “it's different when we do it” mentality brought to us courtesy of career politicians. That's the real problem here.
They try to teach high school kids to accept homosexuality in California yet they punish heterosexual teens for sexting.
What a bunch of shameless hypocrites!