my best friendCalifornia Jewelry Store Owner Fires Back at Armed Robbers: Would You Do the Same?
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2012/08/03 21:03:15
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A jewelry shop owner in Garden Grove, CA, open fired on five masked men attempting to rob her; at least one of the five thieves was armed.
“Our official recommendation is that business owners should not take the law upon themselves,” said Garden Grove Police Lt. Jeff Nightengale. “It is difficult because when you start shooting guns those rounds can end up anywhere. We would rather have the crime happen and have good witnesses rather than putting someone’s safety in jeopardy.”
ABCNEWS.GO.COM reports:
“Our official recommendation is that business owners should not take the law upon themselves,” said Garden Grove Police Lt. Jeff Nightengale. “It is difficult because when you start shooting guns those rounds can end up anywhere. We would rather have the crime happen and have good witnesses rather than putting someone’s safety in jeopardy.”
ABCNEWS.GO.COM reports:
On Wednesday, five masked men poured into a jewelry store in a strip mall in Garden Grove, Calif., expecting to carry out a simple smash and grab robbery. But within less than a minute, they discovered they were no match for the store’s owner, a gray-haired woman whose finger seems quite comfortable on the trigger.
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JingerJewels 2012/08/04 08:02:10Yes+11I am a business owner and i would have no problem putting a hot piece of lead into someone who is trying to rob me
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The objective is DE escalation, not escalation.
trained to shoot, that doesn't happens nearly as much as you want to think. People are not walking around wanting to shoot someone, well the criminals are,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
And @ Debowman, I wonder why you consider putting criminals in jail to be protecting them? I don't know about you, but jail is not an easy place to live in my opinion.
In general I think the problem lay in society. Stats show that 43% of all prisonmates (in a survey of 150 people, mind you) had teenage or single mothers. So, if we fix the concept that people should be independent family makers, among many other rotten concepts (like eye for an eye, and the concept that, if you're Christian, breaking the sixth commandment: You shall not kill: is fine for you only because you deem it's okay for this instance), we might see less killers running around. :)
When the actual "problem" is whether the innocent lives or *DIES*, it makes choices much more limited.
You state: "It is more efficient, yes. And I feel it is odd to compare a shooting by the shop owner of a one-time offender (it could turn into more, yes) to a mass-murderer-bankrobber. Keep talking to me, though."
There isn't a hooker, that wasn't a virgin at one time.
Why do you believe, that these POS, would have *STOPPED* committing violent crimes after just this one robbery? Especially if it had been successful?
Statistically, criminals escalate in their violence, commonly leading to murder; if they aren't given a good reason to stop . . . like the risk of death for example.
While this innocent intended victim *WAS* prepared against their violent crime, their next innocent victims may *NOT* be prepared, and may *DIE* because this jewelry store owned didn't kill the bastards.
You state: "And @ Debowman, I wonder why you consider putting criminals in jail to be protecting them? I don't know about you, but jail is not an easy place to live in my opinion."
But it was the *CHOICE* they made being *CRIMINALS*; A pine box, would be my preferred choice ...
When the actual "problem" is whether the innocent lives or *DIES*, it makes choices much more limited.
You state: "It is more efficient, yes. And I feel it is odd to compare a shooting by the shop owner of a one-time offender (it could turn into more, yes) to a mass-murderer-bankrobber. Keep talking to me, though."
There isn't a hooker, that wasn't a virgin at one time.
Why do you believe, that these POS, would have *STOPPED* committing violent crimes after just this one robbery? Especially if it had been successful?
Statistically, criminals escalate in their violence, commonly leading to murder; if they aren't given a good reason to stop . . . like the risk of death for example.
While this innocent intended victim *WAS* prepared against their violent crime, their next innocent victims may *NOT* be prepared, and may *DIE* because this jewelry store owned didn't kill the bastards.
You state: "And @ Debowman, I wonder why you consider putting criminals in jail to be protecting them? I don't know about you, but jail is not an easy place to live in my opinion."
But it was the *CHOICE* they made being *CRIMINALS*; A pine box, would be my preferred choice for them, especially for the good of Society.
You state: "In general I think the problem lay in society. Stats show that 43% of all prisonmates (in a survey of 150 people, mind you) had teenage or single mothers."
While that is a great ideology, it's just not practically applicable: When you are threatened with death, it doesn't matter that that the *VIOLENT CRIMINAL* didn't get an extra pudding when he was a child or anything else, not even only having a single mom.
You state: " So, if we fix the concept that people should be independent family makers, among many other rotten concepts (like eye for an eye, and the concept that, if you're Christian, breaking the sixth commandment: You shall not kill: is fine for you only because you deem it's okay for this instance), we might see less killers running around. :)"
Actually the correct translation of the 6th Commandment is "Thou shalt not *MURDER*"; HUGE difference!
The Bible makes it clear, that had this Jewelry store owner killed those bastards, it would have been *Right* with God.
To not stray from the original point of this, it is my opinion that it is no power of man's to give themselves so much power as to take another's life. It is not okay for a murderer to murder, but just as much as it is not okay for us to kill the murderer (this is all my opinion! this is an opinion website). Just as much as it is not okay to abort a baby because it is taking another life. But no matter, no matter; thanks for sharing this with me :)
I don't have days to waste holding Bible studies here on SodaHead.
But this should get you started: http://www.biblicalselfdefens...
You state: "To not stray from the original point of this, it is my opinion that it is no power of man's to give themselves so much power as to take another's life. It is not okay for a murderer to murder, but just as much as it is not okay for us to kill the murderer (this is all my opinion! this is an opinion website)."
Until cowardice went into vogue, it was considered a sin for one not to protect God's gift of Life from those who would wrongfully attempt to take it
You state: "Just as much as it is not okay to abort a baby because it is taking another life. But no matter, no matter; thanks for sharing this with me :)"
Of course there is no comparison between stopping a murderer from taking the life of an innocent, and endorsing the slaughter of innocent lives.
Have a great day!
Do criminals wear signs to identify their intentions?
Will they get in trouble with the "Criminals Union" if they kill someone who is compliant when they were only licensed to steal "goods"?
Reality doesn't support your ideology.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Then it *IS* reality.
No, *VIOLENT CRIMINALS* don't always murder their victims, but far too many do, for the intelligent to ignore that fact.
How is the intended victim supposed to know if the *VIOLENT CRIMINAL* intends to only rob them?
You are CORRECT!
That's why, if she had the skill, she had the opportunity, she should have put a bullet in each of their brains.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Seems to me that the store owner's safety WAS in jeopardy and that's why she carries a weapon of protection. Good witnesses cannot bring back the dead folks killed by bad criminals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Just saw the video, she is a hero, she may have saved some lives. It is so freakin great to see those pussies run from a lady with a gun.... LOVED IT.
Besides, remember what happened last time a business owner shot and killed a thief (Latasha Harlins) in America?
Riots...
Certainly not the last time, but it should have thought America its lesson, it seems not.
The situations are not comparable in the least. Latisha was unarmed, attacked with a stool and then shot, all while holding the money to pay for her orange juice. Moreover, the store owner was not responsible for the riots, that would be the judge who reduced a potential 16 year prison sentence to five years probation, $500 fine and 400 hours community service for voluntary manslaughter-not self defense-and of course the rioters themselves. This was also closely related in time to the Rodney King beating. A typical and appalling act of state brutality against a black person. So we have a well documented and publicized act of brutality by the state against a black person and then a few days later a judge (acting for the state) in the same area lets a murderer off with a slap on the wrist after murdering a 15 year old black girl. Essentially, the government for the county of LA and the state of California were saying that black people have no expectation of justice. The only thing the rioters did wrong was to stay in their own neighborhood rather than go to the homes of those in the government that sh*ts all over them.
You learned the wrong lesson...
The situations are not comparable in the least. Latisha was unarmed, attacked with a stool and then shot, all while holding the money to pay for her orange juice. Moreover, the store owner was not responsible for the riots, that would be the judge who reduced a potential 16 year prison sentence to five years probation, $500 fine and 400 hours community service for voluntary manslaughter-not self defense-and of course the rioters themselves. This was also closely related in time to the Rodney King beating. A typical and appalling act of state brutality against a black person. So we have a well documented and publicized act of brutality by the state against a black person and then a few days later a judge (acting for the state) in the same area lets a murderer off with a slap on the wrist after murdering a 15 year old black girl. Essentially, the government for the county of LA and the state of California were saying that black people have no expectation of justice. The only thing the rioters did wrong was to stay in their own neighborhood rather than go to the homes of those in the government that sh*ts all over them.
You learned the wrong lesson. The lesson was that government has no abiding interest in justice or protection of the public and is in fact the greatest threat to public safety, justice and personal property.
There is no crime in self defense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...