Here's the thing.
Jesus died for our sins, right? So all our sins are automatically forgiven EXCEPT for the sin of non-believing (allegedly, at least, I have a theory about how that got into the bible that doesn't involve God). The 'sin' of homosexuality falls under the category of 'forgivable because Jesus died for you'
Therefore, they don't go to Hell.
The end.
Biblical Statement Against Gays
SexyX
2010/05/10 02:52:17
I've looked, and found, plenty of places where the Bible says that homosexuality is wrong, and they all say that the homosexuals will be punished, but I haven't actually found any place where it says that they will go to hell. If you know where it says specifically that they will go 'down under' please tell me where, or what, it says.
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LifeIsComedyPHAET 2010/05/17 22:37:59















THEN THERE ARE THE HOMOSEXUALS. JUST TO DIE. THINK ABOUT IT. YOU ENJOY YOUR GAYNESS, KNOWING HOW MUCH IT IS HURTING GOD, BUT YOU ARE GROWN AND YOU ARE GOING TO ENJOY YOUR LIFE. ONCE YOU ARE DEAD. YOU ARE DEAD. SO WHAT, YOU ARE GOING TO HEAVEN OR HELL. THAT IS A MAJOR SLAP IN GODS FACE.
HAVE THE HOMOSEXUALS EVER REALLY BELIEVED IN GOD AND JESUS. REGARDLESS OF YOU WERE BORN GAY OR CHANGED YOUR SEXUALITY, HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDERED LOVING GOD SO SO SO MUCH, THAT YOU PRAYED TO HIM AND ASKED FOR DELIVERANCE?
THINK ABOUT IT. SAY "GOD, REGARDLESS OF WHY I AM A HOMOSEXUAL, I KNOW HOW MUCH IT HURTS YOU, AND BECAUSE YOU LOVED ME ENOUGH TO GIVE YOUR SON LIFE UP FOR ME, I AM ASKING YOU FOR DELIVERANCE, BECAUSE, I DON'T WANT TO JUST DIE.
I WANT TO LIVE WITH YOU. IN THE NAME OF JESUS, I ASK THESE THINGS. AMEN."
Which is one of the reasons why today I call myself a Satanist.
I believe the bible is also fairly clear that it is up to each person to choose their path. Leave them to do whatever they want, I say. If it bothers you to sit idly by, consider this - it's possible that by trying to convince them of what they should do you're merely making them hold their convictions more tightly. There. Now you have permission to let go.
Judge not? Yes? :)
The Bible also says you can own slaves. You can sell your daughter into slavery, if your child does not obey he is to be taken to the outskirts of town and stoned to death. People that work on the Sabbath are in trouble, that cotton poly blend that you wore to Red Lobster... oops another no-no... is going to get you....
The Bible, in my opinion was meant as a guide, not a rulebook. But people who want to jump up and down against homosexuality want to do so without reading the rest of the book. I didn't choose to be gay. Others choose to eat shellfish, wear blends of cloth and work on Sunday.... hmmmm.... I wonder who really is going to hell.
I really have to question people that would believe that a God would meter out infinite punishments for such trivial things if indeed there was a God. The more I read about religion especially the Arabrahamic ones the more I shake me head it simply defies reason and logic.
Galatians 5:19-21
19The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Couple that with Revelation 20 and one sees a rather bleak eternity for all people who knowingly persist in any way of life contrary to God, not just homosexuality.
Revelation 20:11-15
The Dead Are Judged
11Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. 14Then death and Ha...
Galatians 5:19-21
19The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Couple that with Revelation 20 and one sees a rather bleak eternity for all people who knowingly persist in any way of life contrary to God, not just homosexuality.
Revelation 20:11-15
The Dead Are Judged
11Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. 14Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
I for one know of nothing in life so valuable as to end up in the lake of fire over it. Everyone needs to make that judgement for themselves.
Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.
Deu 25:16 For all that do such things, [and] all that do unrighteously, [are] an abomination unto the LORD thy God.
I pasted the last verse for a point. for ALL that do UNRIGHTEOUSLY are abomination to the Lord. That means every one, we're all screwed, unlike man who puts some sin above others GOD does not. The white lie you told the neighbor is the same as having sex out side of marriage, as the same as killing the guy at the market.... Sin is Sin is SIN.
Since NO ONE could follow all 613 laws in the Torah God sent his Son to die so that righteous blood could be spilled to cover all sins of the world, and by accepting that fact could one be "saved" and join God in the heavens.
I'm not going to argue it, or debate it. You asked for verses I provided them. God laid down the rules we ALL either accept the sacrifice of the Son or we don't.
14For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace.
15What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? May it never be!
16Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin resulting in death, or of obedience resulting in righteousness?
However, Jesus does tell us to use discernment and judgement regarding action. In other words, I can't judge the salvation of a serial killer, but I can judge his actions and act accordingly.
The word "hell" is not in the Bible. However, other eternal punishments are clearly mentioned.
It's really upsetting. Thanks for setting 'em straight.