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Australian Court OKs Cigarette Logo Ban: Should Your Country Do the Same?

mrosen814 2012/08/16 22:00:00
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Starting this December, branding and logos from cigarette companies cannot be displayed anywhere on cigarette packages in Australia. According to CBS News, "the packs will instead come in a uniformly drab shade of olive and feature graphic health warnings and images of cancer-riddled mouths, blinded eyeballs and sickly children." The government hopes the new packs will make smoking as unglamorous as possible.

CBSNEWS.COM reports:
Cigarette packs in Australia on track to be stripped of corporate logos, despite tobacco lobbying
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  • Bud 2012/08/17 14:35:50
    No
    Bud
    +24
    Yet another example of government attempting to dictate how people live their lives. Government has thrown out the principle of personal responsibility by placing blame on things. Cigarettes do not kill people, misusing them does. Twenty ounce sodas do not make people any fatter than twenty ounce lattes but misusing them does. Government has also maligned the fast food industry which is a useful, lawful enterprise because some people over indulge and become obese, that is the responsibility of people who eat too much not the responsibility of fast food. Lastly, we hear "Guns kill people!" Guns do not kill people, people kill people. Left to themselves all guns can do is slowly rust away.

    What we need is for government to get the hell out of our lives and leave us alone!

    Bud

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  • darazan Royo 2012/08/18 04:59:59
    darazan
    I love how you think that cigarettes are worse than drugs like heroine. Lawls.
  • Jeromef... darazan 2012/08/18 06:04:31
    JeromefromLayton
    +1
    It could be. It's the marketing and interference with trade that causes most of the problems with opiates. Other drugs have their own problems. Getting between me and chocolate may be a health hazard ;-))...
  • darazan Jeromef... 2012/08/21 18:47:59
    darazan
    lol
  • El Prez 2012/08/18 01:43:11
    No
    El Prez
    +1
    Waste of time and would do no good. People have to want to quit, not be coersed or forced to quit/
  • Leep 2012/08/18 01:42:42
    Yes
    Leep
    +1
    I mean't to click 'No'. Sure smokes make you butt ugly sometimes....but some people like that, right? And Its their choice to choose that path.
    I don't smoke, I hate them but that's just me. (And no doubt millions others.)
  • mpurkays Leep 2012/08/18 01:58:52 (edited)
    mpurkays
    +2
    Some folks on here think this is about an individual's right to choose. I think otherwise. Australia is not banning the cigarettes. Just making sure people can see with their own eyes what smoking leads to. Why hide the ugly truth? People will at least have a clear visual reminder of what risks they're taking with their health. If they still choose to purchase the poison, they were given fair warning.

    Also, when people choose to smoke, it's not just an individual choice. Their choice affects everyone else. As taxpayers, we are paying millions if not billions every year to pay for older patients on Medicare hospitalized with emphysema, lung cancer, heart disease, stroke and other ailments that resulted from their choice to smoke. Smokers get these diseases 10 times more often than non-smokers. And, in their own families, smokers' children have tons more asthma and allergies, a result of second hand smoke exposure. My point is, other people pay the price for a smoker's decision to smoke, not just the smoker.
  • Defend ... mpurkays 2012/08/18 02:26:54
    Defend Western Civlization
    australia is run by FASCIST
  • Jeromef... Defend ... 2012/08/18 06:06:39
    JeromefromLayton
    You may be maligning fascists. I prefer dumb donkey liberals.
  • Defend ... Jeromef... 2012/08/18 10:47:03
    Defend Western Civlization
    liberals are fascist
  • darazan mpurkays 2012/08/18 05:07:18
    darazan
    So, what about the people who don't smoke, weren't around smokers, and still had asthma, emphysema, lung cancer, heart disease, stroke or any of the other ailments that you were thinking of? Money goes to them as well.

    Besides, regardless of someone else's choice to smoke, who are you to deny them the right to be treated at the hospital? My grandfather developed lung cancer due to the time he spent smoking, even though he had quit almost 20 years prior. Did he not deserve the same treatment as anyone else simply because he had smoked?

    While I don't condone smoking, I find it very insensitive to have such an opinion of smokers, especially in regards to their medical care. It's not like they don't pay taxes. They pay more, even.
  • mpurkays darazan 2012/08/21 06:49:43
    mpurkays
    Before you start labeling me as insensitive, I think you miss my point. I never said smokers don't deserve health care. And I NEVER said I would deny them care in a hospital. I believe every person has a right to health care, regardless of their choices, even if they deliberately choose not to follow a healthy lifestyle. What I'm saying is that society shares in the burden in paying for heightened health care costs due to smoking. Yes, non-smokers get all those ailments you mentioned too, but far less frequently, a small fraction in comparison. There is no doubt, and a wealth of evidence, showing smoking is linked to a higher incidence of those diseases mentioned. What I object to is the idea proposed by many on here that a smoker's decision to smoke is not affecting or harming others. It is not just an individual choice but one that has a significant impact on everyone else. I especially feel sorry for children who suffer second-hand smoke from their parents, and end up with asthma and other health problems. They are hostage to the environments their parents subject them to and suffer the consequences.
  • darazan mpurkays 2012/08/21 18:52:50
    darazan
    I understand that smoking does affect others. I do apologize for misunderstanding your statement regarding medical care. While smoking does have a higher incidence of health issues, it seems like there's more wrong with people in general these days, even without exposure to smoking.
  • mpurkays darazan 2012/08/22 23:25:55
    mpurkays
    Thank you for your words :-). I agree with everything you said above. I also think there is a lot more cancer and health issues in general these days thanks to massive pesticides in the food chain, man's current tendency to pollute the Earth, and other factors brought on by the technological age. We can't control everything in our environment, but we can make a choice about not directly putting the high levels of carcinogens into our bodies found in cigarettes, and I think we need to be aware of how our choices do affect others. Education regarding the harmful effects helps, but I think there is no harm in deterrents like pictures and warnings on cigarette packages. If these discourage even one person from smoking, that may be one life saved down the road.
  • darazan mpurkays 2012/08/23 01:25:54
    darazan
    Perhaps, but I don't feel that the government should step in like they are. They're doing everything they can to stop people from smoking outside of banning it, and that's really not their place, in my opinion. They had pictures on there before, and now they're totally taking away any branding or logos and making the pictures the only things on the cigarettes other than the warnings. I think that's a bit extreme.
  • - deciphering dreams - 2012/08/18 01:41:39
    No
    - deciphering dreams -
    Pple know the risk but they do it anyway. It's like having sex with a whore when u know it's bad and can cause you a disease and y? Bc it makes pple feel good okie dokie
  • liz is still alive 2012/08/18 01:39:46
    Yes
    liz is still alive
    +1
    Well Australia is my country so... yes?
  • tootien 2012/08/18 01:37:45
    No
    tootien
    +3
    In US???? Dislike cigarettes...dislike censorship even more...
  • Schläue~© 2012/08/18 01:35:39
    No
    Schläue~©
    +4
    Not until Planned Parenthood employees and certain members of Congress start wearing these T-Shirts. ab1
    ab2
  • - decip... Schläue~© 2012/08/18 01:43:15
    - deciphering dreams -
    +2
    Soo sad!!!
  • Schläue~© - decip... 2012/08/18 01:48:48
    Schläue~©
    +2
    Sorry, but I have to remind people sometimes.
  • Hawk Schläue~© 2012/08/18 05:01:48
    Hawk
    +1
    Excellent !
  • deadshot Schläue~© 2012/08/18 03:19:27
  • Schläue~© deadshot 2012/08/18 03:28:23
    Schläue~©
    +1
    No dice, I'm thinking about the 300,000 murdered every year by PP and the spineless jackass Proglodytes in Congress.
  • deadshot Schläue~© 2012/08/22 11:24:19
    deadshot
    Which means you're raising a glass to Todd Akin right now, I'm assuming. And that you get your facts about PP from Fox "News".
  • Schläue~© deadshot 2012/08/22 12:43:22
  • darazan Schläue~© 2012/08/18 05:24:34
    darazan
    +1
    I love how people focus of a single aspect of what Planned Parenthood offers. Abortion is not the only thing they deal with. They also offer birth control, general health care, men's sexual health services, STD screenings, women's health exams, etc.

    For your information, perhaps you should screen your pictures before you post them. While I cannot be certain as I didn't do the Google search I'm sure you did, the first looks like a stillborn or miscarriage that was 21 weeks premature and not fully developed, not an abortion. the second is a black and white photo (presumably) of premies in a trash bag. You have no verification to prove what the pictures are of or where they are from, or whether or not they are photoshopped, how old they are, or any kind of legitimate argument. It's ok to disagree with abortion, you don't have to get one should you ever get pregnant. But if you could please let everyone in your village know that they have no right to make decisions for someone else, and that Planned Parenthood is not a monstrous organization that is out to kill babies, but a place that has actually saved my friend's life, I would really appreciate it.

    Abortions still happened when they were illegal in the US, but they were in back alleys and makeshift places and often killed the mo...
    I love how people focus of a single aspect of what Planned Parenthood offers. Abortion is not the only thing they deal with. They also offer birth control, general health care, men's sexual health services, STD screenings, women's health exams, etc.

    For your information, perhaps you should screen your pictures before you post them. While I cannot be certain as I didn't do the Google search I'm sure you did, the first looks like a stillborn or miscarriage that was 21 weeks premature and not fully developed, not an abortion. the second is a black and white photo (presumably) of premies in a trash bag. You have no verification to prove what the pictures are of or where they are from, or whether or not they are photoshopped, how old they are, or any kind of legitimate argument. It's ok to disagree with abortion, you don't have to get one should you ever get pregnant. But if you could please let everyone in your village know that they have no right to make decisions for someone else, and that Planned Parenthood is not a monstrous organization that is out to kill babies, but a place that has actually saved my friend's life, I would really appreciate it.

    Abortions still happened when they were illegal in the US, but they were in back alleys and makeshift places and often killed the mother in the process. There was no legitimate help for victims of rape or incest. So, even if I wouldn't get an abortion should I get pregnant, I would rather there be a safe place they can be performed than go back to the alternative.
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  • bleep darazan 2012/08/18 05:34:41
    bleep
    Planned parenthood is just a excuse for bad parents. Don't worry the goverment will tell you how to decide what is right and wrong. That's what dema crats like.
  • darazan bleep 2012/08/18 05:40:56
    darazan
    The government will tell me no such thing, thank you very much. Planned Parenthood is not just an excuse for bad parents. I don't think abortion should be used as a secondary birth control option, because it's not, so please don't misunderstand me.
  • bill.fi... darazan 2012/08/18 06:52:14 (edited)
    bill.fife.3
    When the concept of Planned Parenthood first came into regular useage in the early & mid sixties the church my family were members of had programs staffed by volunteers anf paid fulltime employees that taught it to residents and patients of their walk-in clinic. And they had plenty, being located smack in the middle of a Southern inner city.
  • Schläue~© darazan 2012/08/18 13:05:44 (edited)
    Schläue~©
    Save your BS propaganda for someone who cares and might believe it. PP wouldn't exist without its revenue from murdering the innocent. They never should have received a DIME in taxpayer funding for that reason alone, but that will all change after Jan. 2013.
    I'm not sure what village you're referring to, but obviously, your commune doesn't respect life and regards their own flesh & blood as yesterday's trash. Perhaps it's a good thing that you aren't multiplying.
    For every 1 life PP 'saves' they destroy 1,000's, not to mention the mental trauma one must carry for the rest of their lives for making an ill-informed decision.
    Why is it, that if they're so concerned with saving lives, they've thwarted every effort for adequate counseling and education prior to someone having the 'procedure'? Yeah, .... it makes it sound like getting a tooth pulled that way,... 'eh?
    Pregnancies from rape & incest are extremely rare as there is a relatively small window for that to happen and about 10 other variables that reduce the odds.

    But, by all means, cherry-pick and justify all you want, you're the only one who has to live with your conscience, and of course, the life that never was, by CHOICE.
  • darazan Schläue~© 2012/08/21 18:58:48
    darazan
    I do understand that different people have differing opinions on whether or not abortion is morally acceptable. I feel that, regardless of my personal opinion on the subject, I have no right to tell someone else what they can and cannot do in that situation. That is their personal choice. I wouldn't dream of taking that away. I'd much prefer there being a safe place where a woman can do that, should she choose to, than go back to back alley abortions.
  • Schläue~© darazan 2012/08/21 19:04:58
    Schläue~©
    Murder is murder and there's no way to justify it or sugar coat it.

    While the pro-abortion crowd was sleeping, many people have been convicted of double murder involving the Mother and unborn child.
    Even the Librul state of California gave Scott Peterson the death penalty after finding him guilty of murdering Lacy and unborn, Conner.

    These cases will be HUGE when Roe v Wade is revisited by the SCOTUS on the 40th anniversary in 2013. Evidence has been revealed since then that the court was supplied with falsified data which was used when formulating their opinions.
  • darazan Schläue~© 2012/08/21 19:46:10
    darazan
    The law justifies murder all the time. They call it things like self-defense, manslaughter, and temporary insanity.

    It's not really "pro-abortion" though. It's "pro-choice." That means that they are for the right to choose what happens, no matter what that choice is. It's allowing the freedom of choice in what is a difficult and life altering decision no matter what you do. I can understand and respect your opinion on this issue, I simply don't feel the same way. I think that allowing that choice is better for everyone. I think that it does allow women to feel like they aren't backed into a corner. I'm sure some women choose to keep a pregnancy (whether they raise the child themselves, or put it up for adoption afterwards) rather than have an abortion because they don't feel pressured or forced into the decision. There are those who abuse the system, who use abortions as a birth control method, and I don't agree with that.
  • Schläue~© darazan 2012/08/21 19:59:36
    Schläue~©
    Sorry, I cannot view the gift of life as an inconvenience that ANYBODY has the legal or moral authority to extinguish.

    I have no problem with people using every possible means of birth control including the 'morning after pill'.

    Although an egg may be fertilized, it doesn't become attached and begin its journey for 48-72 hours which is plenty of time for one to make 'double-sure' they didn't become pregnant through the irresponsibility of both involved.
  • darazan Schläue~© 2012/08/23 01:31:18
    darazan
    I've known women that were very responsible about the situation, took birth control, used condoms, the morning-after pill just in case, and still got pregnant somehow. So it's not just about responsibility vs. irresponsibility. There are also a lot of women who have medical issues that a pregnancy would be very dangerous for. Even if they are completely responsible about sex, they could still get pregnant. If they went through with the pregnancy, the lives of both mother and child would be at a severe risk. What do you do in that situation? If you have done everything you can to not get pregnant and do anyway?
  • Schläue~© darazan 2012/08/23 01:38:53 (edited)
    Schläue~©
    Not buying it.
    That's like me telling a cop I slammed on my brakes, put the car in reverse and tried to swerve out of the way but somehow I magically broadsided him on a red light.

    Believe me, if someone seriously had gone through all that, followed all instructions properly, and still got pregnant,.... the LAST thing she should do is abort because that must be some special baby on the way.
  • darazan Schläue~© 2012/08/24 18:32:34
    darazan
    What about those women with medical conditions that should not get pregnant, do everything that can to not get pregnant, but get pregnant anyway? Are you not buying that? Because that does happen. If they keep the pregnancy, they could both die. What would you do?
  • Schläue~© darazan 2012/08/24 18:44:24
    Schläue~©
    It's called getting their tubes tired (simple procedure) or a complete Hysterectomy.

    Anyone with that severe of a condition should be smart enough to handle it properly, including total abstinence as a last resort.
  • darazan Schläue~© 2012/08/24 18:49:46
    darazan
    Getting your tubes tied or a hysterectomy is not really as simple as it sounds. Surgically, pretty simple, however it effects your body and your hormones for the rest of your life. It's not the right choice for everyone. Just as abortion isn't. But I'm not going to make that choice for someone else.
  • Schläue~© darazan 2012/08/24 19:01:12
    Schläue~©
    You can keep tossing out all the scenarios from the benign to the extreme but the bottom line is,... this is the 21st century and there is NO EXCUSE for anyone becoming pregnant if they utilize all the different options available and act responsibly.

    Doesn't matter though because the SCOTUS will be revisiting Roe v Wade next year for the 40th anniversary and determine, once and for all,.... the question of when life begins.

    The court was fed bogus manipulated data in the 70's and never would have made that decision, had the factual data been available.

    Many things have changed since then, as I mentioned above and selective abortion will be a thing of the past.

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