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Australian Court OKs Cigarette Logo Ban: Should Your Country Do the Same?

mrosen814 2012/08/16 22:00:00
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Starting this December, branding and logos from cigarette companies cannot be displayed anywhere on cigarette packages in Australia. According to CBS News, "the packs will instead come in a uniformly drab shade of olive and feature graphic health warnings and images of cancer-riddled mouths, blinded eyeballs and sickly children." The government hopes the new packs will make smoking as unglamorous as possible.

CBSNEWS.COM reports:
Cigarette packs in Australia on track to be stripped of corporate logos, despite tobacco lobbying
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  • Bud 2012/08/17 14:35:50
    No
    Bud
    +24
    Yet another example of government attempting to dictate how people live their lives. Government has thrown out the principle of personal responsibility by placing blame on things. Cigarettes do not kill people, misusing them does. Twenty ounce sodas do not make people any fatter than twenty ounce lattes but misusing them does. Government has also maligned the fast food industry which is a useful, lawful enterprise because some people over indulge and become obese, that is the responsibility of people who eat too much not the responsibility of fast food. Lastly, we hear "Guns kill people!" Guns do not kill people, people kill people. Left to themselves all guns can do is slowly rust away.

    What we need is for government to get the hell out of our lives and leave us alone!

    Bud

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  • GLaDOS hannah 2012/10/23 04:27:49
    GLaDOS
    Okay, well, they can ban:
    cigarettes
    eggs
    saturated fats
    gas-guzzling cars
    alcohol
    red meat (it should be carefully moderated)
    bungee jumping (or participation in any other extreme hobbies)
    vigorous sex (it can kill you, you know)
    salt
    tofu/soy (if it's not made like the Japanese make it, because it can overload your body with plant-style faux estrogens)
    sugar
    artificial sweetener
    coffee

    And they can make illegal:
    refusing medical help/pills
    self-harm
    driving
    being out during a thunderstorm
    refusing to evacuate a disaster zone
  • hannah GLaDOS 2012/10/23 04:31:59
    hannah
    boy you do like to exaggerate dont you? again you stretch it out into planet-explosion exaggerations where not need be
  • GLaDOS hannah 2012/10/23 15:29:19 (edited)
    GLaDOS
    Slippery slopes do that. I mean, you're the one who thinks, the government should "encourage" people not to do things that are bad for them. Well, since you're not for outright banning them, let's think of some more "encouragements."

    How about, for eggs? They can force them to have pictures of clogged arteries, and stroke patients, and increase the taxes on them? Same for salt. For gas-guzzling cars, they can make the dealers put pictures of people's lungs after damage from exhaust, and automotive crashes, with pictures of the victims. Bungee Jumping (and other extreme sports)? They can force them to show people images of former examples of street/ground pizza, and put on a hefty tax for the risk they're posing to their life, like... a danger tax! That sounds good? For tofu/soy, they can have them put on images of men with breasts, and maybe a little tray of semen from a man whose sperm count is excessively low, because of it. On condoms, vaginal lubricants, and whatnot, they can put pictures of people who've died having sex, with the Warning: Vigorous sex may cause death, and that danger tax can go here, too.

    All this because, evidently, these people are idiots, and simply must get a heavy-handed image in order for them to understand, "these things may kill you!" Because, obviously, they don't know this already.
  • hannah GLaDOS 2012/10/24 01:45:11
    hannah
    i never said they should freak out. im saying that they should be more involved in encouraging people to take better care of their bodies
  • GLaDOS hannah 2012/10/24 16:47:34
    GLaDOS
    Well, here are ideas to get involved in "encouraging" people to take better care of their bodies. Ice cream, and all sweets, pastries, etc. can have pictures of morbidly obese people, like this:
    care bodies ice cream sweets pastries pictures morbidly obese people

    And, all of those other "encouragements" I listed above. I mean, if "encouragement" is putting pictures that turn people off of unhealthy/dangerous stuff, well...
  • hannah GLaDOS 2012/10/24 21:10:45
    hannah
    if it helps. doesnt hurt anything. just as long as they keep it unbiased (meaning not saying "fat people are gross. dont be fat, but rather saying things that wont offend but still help encourage people to do the right thing for their bodies)
  • GLaDOS hannah 2012/10/24 22:57:37
    GLaDOS
    "Fat people are unhealthy, more likely to have heart disease, die of stroke, diabetes..." etc. etc.

    If this is seriously okay with you, then there really isn't anything else to say.
  • hannah GLaDOS 2012/10/27 01:48:07
    hannah
    you dont have to say "fat people". you can say "obesity causes a high risk of heart disease, stroke, diabetes, etc." its not what you say so much as how you say it.
  • GLaDOS hannah 2012/10/27 01:58:38
    GLaDOS
    You're basically saying the same thing, no matter how nicely you put it.
  • hannah GLaDOS 2012/10/27 03:08:27
    hannah
    not really. there is a difference. the one you posted shows criticism while the one i posted shows genuine care and concern for the individuals
  • GLaDOS hannah 2012/10/27 17:17:09
    GLaDOS
    Again, you're basically saying the same thing, you're just adding a rather condescending, "Bless your heart," to it.

    "Those fat people are just so unhealthy, and it's so unfortunate that they choose to live that way, bless their hearts."

    You think you're being caring, or acting concerned, but you're really telling them how they should live, and basically rubbing it in their faces if they choose not to live the way you believe they should.
  • hannah GLaDOS 2012/10/27 18:09:08
    hannah
    thats according to your opinion but its better to tell someone where they are going wrong and how to fix it rather than leave them blissfully unaware. if you care you wont leave some one blissfully unaware.
  • GLaDOS hannah 2012/10/27 18:49:05
    GLaDOS
    And you think that they're blissfully unaware? You really think that they don't look at the risks of their behavior and just decide that they don't care? My mother smokes, she doesn't need some crazy pictures showing her what is possible, however, highly unlikely, for her. Both of my maternal grandparents smoked. Neither of them died of smoking-related illnesses. My mother is fine as well, for her age, and considering the idiots who have run into her cars while she was driving.

    People who smoke aren't "blissfully unaware," because normally, the people around them have nothing better to do than spout out little nuggets like, "smoking is going to kill you." Guess what? Life is going to kill you, and if your DNA does not say, "you're going to live to be a centenarian," guess what? You're not passing 100, it doesn't matter if you eat kashi and quinoa, breathe pure oxygen, jog until you no longer can, and have the best doctors. There are centenarians who have participated in all sorts of vices, but guess what? They still got past 100, because their DNA was just that...good. Such is life. We're all going to die some day, and it is our choice whether that day is sooner, with life lived to its fullest, or further away, living in fear of every single thing we choose to put into our bodies.
  • hannah GLaDOS 2012/10/27 18:55:48
    hannah
    i never said live in fear. but theres also some things to be smart about. its like saying "let rapists be rapists. people will face bad things in life anyway so if they go to jail thats just one bad thing they will face. hey just as long as theyre happy who cares?" its not okay for people to destroy themselves or their bodies.
  • GLaDOS hannah 2012/10/28 18:15:37
    GLaDOS
    You sound like you'd like a fascist regime.

    People have free will, they're not that idiotic, contrary to my, personal, opinion. They don't eat fattening, sugary foods and think, "Oh! This is going to help me lose weight!" They don't smoke and say, "Oh, this is going to help me live longer!" People are free to make their own choices within the confines of the law, and cigarettes are not illegal, neither is alcohol, sugar, cars, and such.

    It is okay for people to have liberty to pursue their happiness. If that means smoking ten packs a day, so be it. Your opinion is your opinion, obviously, but you have no right to take another's away, no matter how they are deciding to destroy their own bodies. That sort of goes with the rapist thing, too. A rapist is infringing on another person's liberty, just like murderers, and such, and deserve punishment for it.
  • hannah GLaDOS 2012/10/29 00:24:30
    hannah
    whatever. you can destroy your body if you want but i dont agree with your mindset
  • GLaDOS hannah 2012/10/29 02:29:24
    GLaDOS
    Finally! You get it.
  • hannah GLaDOS 2012/10/29 05:09:36
    hannah
    i mean you yourself. but i still stick to my original plan so sorry i dont get it. its just my way of not dragging out the conversation about it.
  • GLaDOS hannah 2012/10/29 16:13:53 (edited)
    GLaDOS
    So, I'm free to destroy my body if I want, but nobody else is? Well, I can't just sit back and watch that sort of injustice, after all...



    First they came for the socialists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

    Then they came for me,
    and there was no one left to speak for me.
  • hannah GLaDOS 2012/10/30 20:46:55
    hannah
    well everyone is free to destroy their body but i said they should get involved. i didnt say they should break down people's doors and threaten to murder them if they dont eat healthier or live healthier lives. yet again you understand nothing that i am saying whatsoever
  • GLaDOS hannah 2012/10/31 15:01:57
    GLaDOS
    You think that they should strongarm them nonetheless. You may not advocate them breaking down people's doors, but sticking vile images in their faces is perfectly acceptable.
  • hannah GLaDOS 2012/10/31 21:10:51
    hannah
    well not sexual images but yes images that will give people a wake-up call before it is too late. people usually get mad if something bad happens to them and they dont know why or how it happened. when you show people more of the risks so when they make those ridiculous choices it will be on no one but them themselves
  • GLaDOS hannah 2012/11/01 01:13:55
    GLaDOS
    I'm curious... how many people who get lung cancer from smoking are "shocked" that they got it? I mean, I can understand that they're shocked that they were the unlucky bugger who ended up with it, but it's not like, "OMG! Where'd THAT come from!? WHY GOD!? WHYYY!?"

    People who eat McDonalds aren't shocked they get fat, unless they're eating the salads and thinking that they're somehow "healthier." People who smoke aren't particularly shocked when they get some smoking-related illness. They don't think that they'll be the one to get it, but it's not like there wasn't ample warning. Pictures are thoroughly unnecessary and excessive.
  • hannah GLaDOS 2012/11/01 01:16:37
    hannah
    they give a wakeup call that just words cannot
  • GLaDOS hannah 2012/11/01 01:21:37
    GLaDOS
    Again, unnecessary, and excessive. They know what dice they're playing with.
  • hannah GLaDOS 2012/11/01 03:25:11
    hannah
    not really. you would be surprised what imaging can do to ones mind
  • GLaDOS hannah 2012/11/01 12:08:45
    GLaDOS
    Not really? I dare you to go up to ten, random, smokers and ask them, "Do you think those things are healthy for you?" Personally, I hope that one of them comes back with the fact that asking them about them is unhealthy for you, but that's me.
  • hannah GLaDOS 2012/11/02 00:12:04
    hannah
    well im kinda getting bored of this conversation since its kinda getting nowhere and we are repeating ourselves but it was an interesting one. however we dont agree with eachothers mindset but lets leave it here okay? have a good night. :) or day or whatever
  • GLaDOS hannah 2012/11/02 17:18:05 (edited)
    GLaDOS
    +1
    Sad as it is, I agree. Except I'm getting frustrated rather than bored. Have a good day.
  • hannah GLaDOS 2012/11/02 21:24:04
    hannah
    thanks. XD
  • HS GLaDOS 2012/08/20 04:37:14
    HS
    +1
    Sorry Glados, but companies don't have "every right" to make a pleasant looking product if such packaging is deceitful in nature. The cigarette industry is based on deceit and addiction and will bring nothing but problems if used as stated. What does it matter if your mother smokes or what you believe your genes to be. You think that's going to cover the fact of the harms caused by smoking, come on now?
  • GLaDOS HS 2012/08/20 19:02:38
    GLaDOS
    Alright, how, exactly, is this deceitful?
    marlboro

    camel cigarettes

    Well, supposedly, low fetal birth weight and IQ are caused by smoking while pregnant. Since you don't like to think of the fact that these things affect people selectively, I wonder how big of a baby I would have been, since I was born 23" long, and about 9lbs. If you don't know, that's a pretty big baby, and having had my IQ professionally tested, well, I wonder how much more intelligent I would have been. My mother says it would be scary.
  • Chris hannah 2012/08/20 01:42:49
    Chris
    +1
    alcohol to.
  • hannah Chris 2012/08/20 01:46:23
    hannah
    ya. i mean with alcohol it isnt bad as long as its a little every once in a while but not getting drunk. just by getting knocked out by it makes you wonder what is happening to your body when you get like that. so yeah they should put the risks on it. :)
  • thy-lady-x 2012/08/19 22:00:51
    Yes
    thy-lady-x
    but...where does the brand name go? Thats my only issue. I see nothing wrong with having disturbing images which are possibilities of what could happen to you on them....butif there is no logo/brand name on the cigarettes, how will the vendors know they grabbed youi what you ordered? And how will you know before you open the pack?
  • Pastor Nellie 2012/08/19 19:38:14
    Yes
    Pastor Nellie
    +1
    We all know what it says on cigarette packages. Isn't it enough that smokers have to pay a 'sin' tax? Who decided smoking is a sin anyway?
  • Thank you but no... 2012/08/19 17:35:42
    Yes
    Thank you but no...
    +1
    That is happening here (UK) too.
  • Proggy 2012/08/19 16:38:40
    Yes
    Proggy
    +2
    It would be great for them to have a visual aide of the possible consequences of such a foolish decision.
  • Chris Proggy 2012/08/20 01:44:11
    Chris
    +2
    alcohol to
  • Proggy Chris 2012/08/20 16:54:02
    Proggy
    Exactly!

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