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Atheist Should Teach The Children The Good News That There Is No God.

Bastion 2012/08/16 15:21:37
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If We Don't Indoctrinate Them When They're Young, They'll Think For Themselves!
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Religious indoctrination of children takes trusting minds and fills them with superstition and magical thinking. Children should be left alone to choose their own metaphysics. Teach them the Golden Rule, and self-reliance, and leave the mysticism and myths for them to learn on their own as adults. Religious indoctrination of children is child abuse. If indoctrination of children was stopped, organized religion would die out in ONE generation.
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  • stevegtexas@aol.com 2013/03/18 18:54:52
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    stevegtexas@aol.com
    +1
    i still would like to know what happens to all of the people who existed BEFORE the translating of the BIBLE........? will they be unsaved from the fire and brimstone?
  • tnmusicman 2012/11/18 09:31:49 (edited)
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    tnmusicman
    You teach your kids what you want and I'll teach mine what I want (the good news that God is alive and well).
    Btw,love the Westboro Church photo . The reason you like to use the Westbiro Church is because you have no behavior exhibited from "real" churches so you go back to the pseudo-church as if to say that all churches are like Westboro.Thats Intellectually dishonest!
  • Bastion tnmusicman 2012/11/18 10:47:58
    Bastion
    Westboro is the most visual.

    Organized religion does more damage than Westboro daily. With delusion.
  • tnmusicman Bastion 2012/11/20 19:51:04
    tnmusicman
    Such nonsense,Bastion.
  • Bastion tnmusicman 2012/11/20 20:19:19
    Bastion
    A very simple truth. Look at the planet - we have people insane over religion and religious differences EVERYWHERE. And i'ts ALL about MYTHS . . . things that don't exist!!

    THAT'S the nonsense. And you can't even see it.
  • tnmusicman Bastion 2012/12/08 06:33:54 (edited)
    tnmusicman
    It's not religion that's killing people it's people's own whackodness! The night stalker was a satanist. Manson ....well who knows what he is. He plays both sides. Madelyn Murray O'Hare was chopped up by who? A fellow atheist. If you want to play the blame game just remember there have been far more deaths connected with atheist leaders so let's not get into picking each others scabs.
  • Bastion tnmusicman 2012/12/08 15:29:36
    Bastion
    "far more deaths connected with atheist leaders"

    There is a HUGE difference between rulers with no religion and "atheist leaders". The usual example is Stalin - Stalin did NOT "kill in the name of atheism", he killed in the name of Stalin.

    Myths and fake "special relationships with the gods" has killed more people going back through history than any other single human cause, including the despotic 20th century dictators, who weren't atheists, they simply made THEMSELVES gods.
  • Bocephus 2012/08/27 19:13:01
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    +1
    Atheists have nothing to teach. What could they possibly offer the world.
  • Bastion Bocephus 2012/08/27 19:18:55
    Bastion
    Everything but myth and delusion.

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  • Bocephus Bastion 2012/08/27 19:40:16
    Bocephus
    +1
    Abraham Lincoln started a national day of prayer. Fail. And tell me what did you learn from these men. Anything useful ?
  • Bastion Bocephus 2012/08/27 20:18:28 (edited)
    Bastion
    Politicians have to give lip service to some form of Christianity in order to placate the masses.

    Look at Romney - do you REALLY think he believes that God lives on a planet called Kolob?

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  • Bastion Bocephus 2012/08/27 20:19:50
    Bastion
    Yeah, most of the useful stuff I know came from these very people.
  • Bocephus Bastion 2012/08/29 19:39:53
    Bocephus
    +2
    I am not Mormon. I don't care what he believes. My view of Romney is from a different point of view. I am Judeo Christian. He is a crook/Politician with evil intentions. We should pray for him.
    Religion doesn't have much room in politics. We need to focus on the numbers. Ron Paul is my choice . He is a small business owner and X military.
  • Bastion Bocephus 2012/11/18 10:49:15
    Bastion
    Lincoln was a politician, not a theologist.

    Atheism is immensely valuable.
  • tnmusicman Bocephus 2012/12/08 06:37:36
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    Forget it,Bocephus. He's choked by his atheist entrails.
  • Bastion tnmusicman 2012/12/08 15:30:08
    Bastion
    Nice.
  • tnmusicman Bastion 2012/11/18 09:51:19
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    +1
    Please, do you want me to go down the Christian list?? Remember,some pretty smart and well known people have been Christians.
  • Bastion tnmusicman 2012/11/18 10:50:24
    Bastion
    Many outgrew it.
  • tnmusicman Bastion 2012/11/23 21:16:00 (edited)
    tnmusicman
    +1
    Christians become atheists --atheists become Christian . Neither side can claim victory. Doesn't stop some very bright people from being Christians.
  • Bastion tnmusicman 2012/11/24 10:26:57
    Bastion
    It's not "victory", it's understanding. And I'm not personally impressed by any of the "bright people" who talk about Christianity.
  • ☆stillthe12c☆ 2012/08/27 18:43:45
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    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +2
    Actually I think that not teaching them about God and his Blessing is child abuse. The problems we have today is a lack of his teaching and not because of.
  • Bastion ☆stillt... 2012/08/27 18:46:46
    Bastion
    Actually I think indoctrinating children into a belief system before they are old enough to know that everything an adult tells them isn't necessarily fact . . . is child abuse.

    The problems we have today are caused by people who act on beliefs they've never questioned or even thought about.
  • ☆stillt... Bastion 2012/08/27 18:53:34
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    I think that what the schools teach them is even more dangerous and one big brainwash.
  • Bastion ☆stillt... 2012/08/27 18:55:56
    Bastion
    Reading, writing and arithmetic? Science?
  • ☆stillt... Bastion 2012/08/27 19:16:56
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    I have no problem with these subjects so long as they stick with subject and do not teach anything that is counter to what I am teaching them.
  • Bastion ☆stillt... 2012/08/27 19:20:56
    Bastion
    So no science? No "survey of world religions"?
  • ☆stillt... Bastion 2012/08/27 19:30:19
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    They can teach science without undermining my teaching. They managed when I was in school. I cold take course in college on religions. They could teach them in High School as an elective. They really need to bet back to giving the children tools they can use like shop classes. We have a bunch of kids coming out of High School that have no idea how to turn a lathe on. They learn the math, but not how to apply it. Shop classes teach them how to apply geometry and trigonometry.
  • Bastion ☆stillt... 2012/08/27 19:34:54 (edited)
    Bastion
    +1
    Sounds good to me.

    Most of the High Schools around here do a pretty good job. I'm in favor of shop, too. In fact I think the entire two years of junior high should involve lots of hard farm work, plus reading and writing. Keep those hormones occupied.

    All religion/philosophy should be taught, or NOT taught, at home
  • ☆stillt... Bastion 2012/08/27 19:48:27
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +1
    I agree that religion should be at home. Although it did not hurt me when I was a child we were able with parental consent to got to religious training every two weeks in elementary school to attend one hour. Not all went. The ones that remained behind took a art class or music. After the hour we reported back to school just in time to be dismissed. They parked two buses next to the school. One for Catholics and one for for Protestants. Discipline at school then was much more strict than today. This only applied to 5th and 6 graders.
  • tnmusicman Bastion 2012/11/18 09:56:57
    tnmusicman
    What kind of strawman is that?!!? What do you mean "the problems we have today...." For Pete's sake,religion isn't responsible for ALL the problems we face,Bastion. Please,at least attempt to be intellectually honest. From what I've read from you in the past you appeared to be a smart person but when you crack off things like blaming our problems on people who didn't question their beliefs a big chunk of your credibility goes down the crapper.
  • Bastion tnmusicman 2012/11/18 10:51:58
    Bastion
    I'll stand by that statement:

    "The problems we have today are caused by people who act on beliefs they've never questioned or even thought about."

    That goes beyond religion.
  • tnmusicman Bastion 2012/11/20 20:14:07
    tnmusicman
    Yeah it does but that notwithstanding ...what about a persons self-destructive behavior? Could that not be cause of a persons start down the spiral?
    The big problems with the world today are Malnutrition and hunger,war,global water crisis,population growth,oil and energy consumption,global economic collapse ect..... I guess some of these things could have been caused by "acting on beliefs they've never questioned" but that's a stretch,IMHO.
  • Bastion tnmusicman 2012/11/20 20:23:56
    Bastion
    LOT'S of self-destructive behavior comes from people being TAUGHT to hate their own humanity. Self-loathing is a religious icon. "Original sin" . . . "we are all sinners" . . . . Jesus was NAILES to a cross and TORTURED because of YOUR sins" . . . "BEHEAD those who say Islam is violent" . . . . "Women must cover their sinful bodies, they are temptresses" . . . "female circumsision" . . . . . "masturbation is a MORTAL SIN and you will BURN IN HELL".

    Look to self-hatred, friend, for the source of many of the world's problems . . . and look to RELIGION to teach the self-hatred.
  • tnmusicman Bastion 2012/11/23 21:29:53 (edited)
    tnmusicman
    That's not what religion is. It's a gross exaggeration of it. Maybe SOME religions are extreme but that's a very small %. My religion teaches love your neighbor as yourself.
  • Bastion tnmusicman 2012/11/24 10:31:05
    Bastion
    The passivity of moderate Christians has been giving the voice and the social power to the extremists. In a more tempered way, it's an echo of the 100's of millions of modern, moderate Muslims being drowned out and make impotent by the militant fundamentalists.
  • MissJo 2012/08/17 08:51:01
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    MissJo
    I don't think you should pressure kids into any spiritual belief, or lack of. It's their choice and only their choice, teaching them that there is no god is just as bad as teaching them there is a god they must worship.
  • Bastion MissJo 2012/08/17 12:40:41
    Bastion
    And thereby teach them to think for themselves, based on evidence?


    Hmmmm . . . . well, OK!
  • MissJo Bastion 2012/08/17 16:51:12
    MissJo
    You can teach them to think for themselves and keep your mouth shut about god.
  • Bastion MissJo 2012/08/17 17:06:24
    Bastion
    What if they ask?
  • MissJo Bastion 2012/08/17 21:18:59
    MissJo
    There are tons of spiritual paths out there and everyone's is different. If they inquire further, than talk about the different kinds respectfully and truthfully.

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