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Swan Eshdeh 2012/11/28 18:39:23
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  • Chaya2010 2013/02/11 21:31:26
    mm...
    Chaya2010
    +1
    No, I'm not educated at all.
  • sglmom 2012/12/15 02:46:51
    with modesty ?i am !
    sglmom
    +2
    It was with a bit of a pause that I clicked this ..
    for even though I am in fact .. a Military Retiree .. and Retired again ..
    I'm also someone who has multiple degrees ..
    sprinkled with common sense ..
    and who knows the value of a good comrade .. companion ..
    for there's more than book learning that forms intelligence ..
    and you can be well educated in the 'school of life' ..
    learning in one's own way ..
    to be a productive and caring individual, person ..
  • Ripley 2012/11/30 16:15:32
    with modesty ?i am !
    Ripley
    +2
    Also, plenty of good common sense. Common sense, is what really gets you through anything.
  • Swan Es... Ripley 2012/12/01 08:15:48
    Swan Eshdeh
    +1
    thank you
  • flrdsgns 2012/11/30 03:00:33
    mm...
    flrdsgns
    +2
    not as much as I'd like. There is always new stuff to learn.
  • Swan Es... flrdsgns 2012/11/30 11:59:17
    Swan Eshdeh
    +2
    sure.thank you.
  • whateverbabynevermind 2012/11/29 17:31:13 (edited)
    mm...
    whateverbabynevermind
    +3
    I am, actually, I just didn't want to click that option because I felt choosing that would negate my point. I go to a very prestigious school and get top marks in all my courses, which are equivalent to the AP classes of the US. I have a long way to go though.
  • Swan Es... whateve... 2012/11/29 18:22:18
    Swan Eshdeh
    +2
    great! thank you.
  • Joe whateve... 2012/11/29 20:11:54
    Joe
    +3
    Don't give up on your dreams!
  • Joe 2012/11/29 16:26:38
    with modesty ?i am !
    Joe
    +4
    Well, I hold a doctorate in my field and taught college for 38 years, BUT I always learned something new from my students and colleagues. So, yeah I am educated, but I see education as a lifelong process.

    Shifting the question a bit, I think that formal education is not equivalent to "intelligence" though they are related. People express intelligence in many ways often with minimal formal education. There are so many people that I admire and have learned from, for example, carpenters, soldiers, and many others. These folks have a body of knowledge and can think effectively about subjects that I know little or nothing about.

    I think that the formal education system in the U.S. often tries to fit the square pegs into round holes. We should concentrate on what people ARE able to do, not what they consistently fail at. Some times there is too much emphasis on "school learning" to the exclusion of other ways that a person can excel.

    When I counseled students I often encouraged them to try to figure out what they are reasonably good at and made them satisfied regardless of what other people think, which is one of the keys to happiness.

    uh oh, I'm lecturing...occupational hazard!
  • Swan Es... Joe 2012/11/29 17:07:05
    Swan Eshdeh
    +2
    oh and i was going to ask you what is your field til i read "occupational hazard"

    i wish i can give you 100 raves. and i hope i can continue to the PHD in my field .thank you sir.
  • Joe Swan Es... 2012/11/29 18:32:37
    Joe
    +2
    I am a psychologist. Thanks!
  • Swan Es... Joe 2012/11/29 18:37:53
    Swan Eshdeh
    a psychologist !!!! i really like that 1!!!
    i am a nurse.nice to meet you !
  • Joe Swan Es... 2012/11/29 20:10:51
    Joe
    +1
    Hi Swan. thanks. I have several nurses in my family.
  • Swan Es... Joe 2012/11/29 20:19:41
    Swan Eshdeh
    that's awesome!!
  • beernbugs Joe 2012/11/29 18:41:59 (edited)
    beernbugs
    +3
    I so agree. I've taught for 20 years and you never learn more than when you are teaching. I'm going back to school because sometimes ones interests change beyond what the confines of a career allow. It will be interesting to see what it's like this time around.

    I do recognize that I am extremely lucky to have the opportunities afforded me. I'm the first one in my family to earn a college degree. Some people never get the breaks I’ve had. This is why we need to keep improving the education system in this country and, at the same time, give more people the chance to attend. We need to decrease tuition costs. I know it's easier said than done, but the prices are out of control.

    You mention square pegs in round holes. I don't believe that is purely an artifact of the education system, but our whole society. I know there are other nations that are worse, but it doesn't mean it's not a problem.

    You make the distinction between intelligence and education, but you also mention carpenters and soldiers. I too, have much admiration for these people. On the other hand, I think it is important to draw the distinction between educated and skilled.

    Thanks for the great post.
  • beernbugs 2012/11/29 15:44:30 (edited)
    with modesty ?i am !
    beernbugs
    +2
    If you do not have an advanced degree, you are not well educated. I find it amusing that a higher percentage of high school students think they are well-educated than do people with a grad/prof education.
  • Swan Es... beernbugs 2012/11/29 17:02:55
    Swan Eshdeh
    +1
    haha.they do?
  • beernbugs Swan Es... 2012/11/29 18:08:06
    beernbugs
    +2
    Yeah, under demographics, click on the book & you can see for yourself.
  • ALofRI 2012/11/29 14:33:08
    at least i am not ignorant !
    ALofRI
    +4
    No, not in my own opinion. Still, when I read some of the posts on this site, I feel pretty good about myself. It's embarrassing to read some of these when you realize they go all over the world, and how stupid they make Americans look! Learning to read and write seems to be no longer important to a growing number! AND, SOME wanted to gut the Department of Education, the EPA and.....what was the third......?
  • Swan Es... ALofRI 2012/11/29 17:03:34
    Swan Eshdeh
    +1
    thank you
  • American 2012/11/29 13:14:46 (edited)
    with modesty ?i am !
    American
    +3
    I have Bachelor of Science Degree in the field of business with 36 additional college credit hours towards a Masters Degree in in the same field. However, I credit most of the learning I have to life experience, keeping up with the changing times, staying in tune with the environment and keeping my mind young, free and open to new horizons and challenges.
  • Swan Es... American 2012/11/29 15:11:38
    Swan Eshdeh
    +2
    that's excellent ! i hope the best for you.
  • American Swan Es... 2012/11/29 21:12:16
    American
    +2
    Thanks, and the same to you!
  • ~*~Denai Da Guru~*~ 2012/11/29 12:35:53
    mm...
    ~*~Denai Da Guru~*~
    +3
    Nope. There is a ton of more eddumacated persons out thare!
  • sazz 2012/11/29 10:24:56
    mm...
    sazz
    +2
    tho i am anti class but in my country .. no degree no good job ..
  • Swan Es... sazz 2012/11/29 15:13:43
    Swan Eshdeh
    +2
    yes the same is here
  • sazz Swan Es... 2012/11/29 17:00:15
    sazz
    +2
    sadly they think its important than skills
  • Swan Es... sazz 2012/11/29 17:10:33
    Swan Eshdeh
    +2
    agree on that too.
  • Cunning Stunts 2012/11/29 08:50:18
    mm...
    Cunning Stunts
    +2
    I have tertiary qualifications but I'm a pleb in the scheme of things.
  • Omni 2012/11/29 06:43:38 (edited)
    mm...
    Omni
    +2
    A piece of paper or school experience doesn't make you educated — being educated is on you and you only. Matt Damon's character in Good Will Hunting described it best during a bar scuffle. You can get the same education you spent a hundred thousand dollars on for a buck fifty in late fees at the library.

    As for me, I tended to be lost throughout HS, so I drowned myself in books. I don't read anywhere near as often as I did throughout HS, partially because I've found other mediums of entertainment, but that doesn't mean I've forgotten anything.
  • Swan Es... Omni 2012/11/29 15:15:09
    Swan Eshdeh
    +2
    "A piece of paper or school experience doesn't make you educated — being educated is on you and you only." agree with this 100%
  • joseph digristina 2012/11/29 05:41:09
  • Omni joseph ... 2012/11/29 06:45:09 (edited)
    Omni
    +3
    That's a nice throw-in-your-face kind of thing to reveal at the end of a debate with a fundie XD
  • joseph ... Omni 2012/11/29 08:04:45
  • Swan Es... joseph ... 2012/11/29 15:20:53
    Swan Eshdeh
    +2
    that's really great! congratulations!!
  • joseph ... Swan Es... 2012/11/29 16:27:29
  • Swan Es... joseph ... 2012/11/29 16:49:29
    Swan Eshdeh
    +1
    you are welcome .so you are a doctor ,do you teach ?like in universities or something like that?
  • joseph ... Swan Es... 2012/11/29 19:25:03
  • Swan Es... joseph ... 2012/11/29 19:27:04
    Swan Eshdeh
    +2
    oh !! haha..private universities are the same every where
    ..long journey with teaching!!!..

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