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Are Pit Bulls "Natural Born" Killers?

CampDavid †DEO VALENTI † July 07, 2008 21:20:04

Americans love their dogs. Most owners of any particular breed will back up their aminals reputation, by saying "it is how or by who they are raised".
Pit Bulls have accounted for over one half of all 'deaths by dog attack' in America and Canada since 1998. No other dog comes close to their record. Worse yet, most of their victims have been children and elderly.This is not even encluding the number of other dogs & pets the have killed. Even family pet Pits have attacked and killed their own family children and pets.
Several Major Metropolitan Cities, Detriot And Denver to name two, have legally declared & listed Pit Bulls(American Bull dogs) as "Lethal Weapons", making it illegal for minors to own or be in control of one. If found in control of one, it is an automatic 'death sentence' for the animal.
Last year, seven children were killed in Texas alone. One by one more Cities & towns are taking measures to ban Pit Bulls.
Over the years several breeds of dogs have led the list of 'killer' dogs, but none come close to the record the 'Pit Bull Terrier' has racked up! Unfortunantly for the Pit Bull, it is designed & built physically to be a powerful fighting, biting machine. And now stats are showing that it is also 'programmed' to be an animal that attacks & fights to the death.
As a dog lover I hate condemn any animal. I have raised and bred dogs for over 30 years. I know many breeds and their tendencies. Personaly I would never allow my children or grandchildren to be in the possition to be in danger from any animal. The stats prove, and the professionals agree, that Pit Bulls are unpredictable and unstable during stressful stuations, and a likely to attack without any given notice. And since many pits have had their tails cropped, their 'signals of agression may go overlooked.
So I ask, are Pit Bulls "Natural Born Killers", which America should do more to protect our children from.
YES! Pit Bulls are Natural Born Killers & should be banned.
No. It is how or who raises them that makes the difference.
UNDECIDED. I need more information.
No. It's who raises them, but they should still be banned.
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  • +10 mary July 08, 2008 02:08:38
    mary

    UNDECIDED. I need more information.

    I work in a hospital and I see more dog bites from these animals more than anyother. The parent will say he has never done anything like this before. I hear it all the time.
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    steve August 09, 2008 15:57:14
    steve

    No. It is how or who raises them that makes the difference.

    fuck allof the haters you might as well call yourself hitler! so ya back the fuck off of pitts its how they are raised not who they are.

    steven
  • +3
    Republic of Honor July 27, 2008 08:34:46
    Republic of Honor

    No. It is how or who raises them that makes the difference.

    This is really the deciding factor, Dogs like this get one chance if there is any sign of aggression around children or other family members then shoot the beast and be done with it! Move on to the next one!
  • +4
    Tiki July 20, 2008 00:57:40
    Tiki

    No. It is how or who raises them that makes the difference.

    They aren't born killers, but it is in their nature to fight to the death. I've been working with dogs and breeding for twenty or so years and have been bitten by many different breeds, never been bitten by a pit. Your actually more likely to be bitten by a chow, or cocker spaniel,ect! But unlike these breeds that snap and quit, pits don't stop, they will keep attacking. I have seen several very aggressive pits that I wouldn't want to see running loose and I've seen many that are overgrown lapdogs. I think they should put breeding restrictions on this breed so only professionals who are breeding them for show purposes can breed them. That way it would cut down a great deal on the number of them that are being bred in backyards by anyone who decides they can make a little money. They also need to put tougher restrictions and punishments on the low lifes that fight these poor animals. That would also help to faze out the unstable temperments common in this breed. There is really no easy answer, I would hate to see any breed banned, but they do need to be kept under control. Too many people and pets also are mauled and killed by pits, usually due to irresponsible owners and bad breeding. The breed has become a status symbol, people think it makes them look tough or cool to own one. T...'
    They aren't born killers, but it is in their nature to fight to the death. I've been working with dogs and breeding for twenty or so years and have been bitten by many different breeds, never been bitten by a pit. Your actually more likely to be bitten by a chow, or cocker spaniel,ect! But unlike these breeds that snap and quit, pits don't stop, they will keep attacking. I have seen several very aggressive pits that I wouldn't want to see running loose and I've seen many that are overgrown lapdogs. I think they should put breeding restrictions on this breed so only professionals who are breeding them for show purposes can breed them. That way it would cut down a great deal on the number of them that are being bred in backyards by anyone who decides they can make a little money. They also need to put tougher restrictions and punishments on the low lifes that fight these poor animals. That would also help to faze out the unstable temperments common in this breed. There is really no easy answer, I would hate to see any breed banned, but they do need to be kept under control. Too many people and pets also are mauled and killed by pits, usually due to irresponsible owners and bad breeding. The breed has become a status symbol, people think it makes them look tough or cool to own one. They don't realize the responsibility involved in owning this type of dog. They have a great deal of energy and need a lot of training from a young age.


    responsibility involved owning type dog deal energy training young age
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  • +4
    CampDavid †DEO VALENTI † July 11, 2008 22:43:14
    CampDavid †DEO VALENTI †

    UNDECIDED. I need more information.

    I too am still undecided. I am not scared of dogs, except Pits. And even then I only fear for my own kids & animals.
    Banning them seems harsh when you consider that for many it means a death sentence! But when you consider the lengths & stubborness a Pit puts into killing when it does attack, and their unpredictability, some major restrictions are needed at least.
    death sentence lengths stubborness pit killing attack unpredictability major restrictions
  • +4
    Faith _N_Jesus carries me July 11, 2008 18:02:24
    Faith _N_Jesus carries me

    UNDECIDED. I need more information.

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  • +4
    Coach July 10, 2008 15:31:04
    Coach

    UNDECIDED. I need more information.

    I have an American Bulldog and 3 daughters, he has been the best pet that I have ever owned. He has never done anything to give me a reason not to trust him but because of the reputation of this breed I am still cautious.
  • +4
    Hannah:) July 09, 2008 16:15:43
    Hannah:)

    No. It is how or who raises them that makes the difference.

    It could be the nicest dog ever or the meanest depending on the owner. raises difference nicest dog meanest depending owner
  • +3 / -1
    meowomon July 09, 2008 03:00:18
    meowomon

    UNDECIDED. I need more information.

    I think yes, genetically. They are engineered for it, but shouldn't be banned. We should take the problem of dog fighting seriously!
  • jellyfish meowomon July 16, 2009 16:01:52
    jellyfish
    Genetically? Wtf are you talking about?

    Here's a good link for you to read. Might provide some much needed insight.
    http://www.pitbulllovers.com/...
  • +3
    CandleWitness+In God We Trust+ July 09, 2008 02:50:11
    CandleWitness+In God We Trust+

    No. It's who raises them, but they should still be banned.

    I think they should be banned because many people own powerful dogs just because they like the image. They don't necessasarily love the dog, just the fact that they own one. Many times dog owners don't know how to be loving, responsible guardians and the dogs become lonely, unsocialized and unstable. I own a pit bull and I LOVE HIM!!! He is smart, loyal, and a great companion. I don't completely trust him though. I have seen him act aggressive for reasons I can't understand.
  • +3
    Ed - In... CandleW... July 09, 2008 10:18:03
    Ed - In God I Trust
    But Candle, if they were to be banned, what would you do with your Pit? Many of these bans are being set up so that the owner has one of two alternatives; Move away from the banned area, or put the dog down. I just feel that you cannot kill the animals off because of some jerk mistreating them. And, make no mistake, if they start banning them, the owners of the puppies and parents alike (just like yourself) will be forced to have them euthanized. Is this really what you want?
  • +4
    CandleW... Ed - In... July 10, 2008 03:24:27
    CandleWitness+In God We Trust+
    It is quite a shock when I realize how much a ban would compromise owners of pits. No, I do not want that. What our we to do? I moved to Florida last year. Before moving there I called the county attorney and asked if there was a ban? He told me no, but they were considering one. I moved into a trailer park and I evaded the question of what kind of dog I had. I told the owner it was a medium size dog and left it at that. Rocky is over 100 lbs. and is a pure breed male Brindle. The trailer is fenced and that was why I chose this particular trailer. After I moved in, she told me to always keep him on a leash and never let him in the yard alone. Now, almost every body in the trailer community love him. He is friendly, very respectful and pays no attention to other dogs. Just today, I had this same conversation with my daughter about if I had to move, my first consideration would be Rocky. I will never move anywhere unless Rocky is included. I don't have an answer about a ban. This is quite a problem. Now, that I understand that I would have to put him down, of course, I would be against a ban. I would never consider giving him away, EVER!
  • +6
    CampDav... CandleW... July 09, 2008 20:42:46 (edited)
    CampDavid †DEO VALENTI †
    Candle, thank you for an honest answer from a Pit owner. And you do care about your dog. Think how many people own them that consider them as "Disposable", which MANY do! That is the real crime! These are the people & animals that put our children at risk. The people who DO care about their Pits maintain good fences & enclosures. Those who don't care enough are the ones who have rickety fences, and dangerous situations prevail.
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    CandleW... CampDav... July 10, 2008 03:05:22
    CandleWitness+In God We Trust+
    That is why I think they should be banned. I am constantly blown away by the ignorance of MANY dog owners. It tears me up when I see abuse and neglect from animal owners.
  • +3
    Ed - In... CandleW... July 10, 2008 04:56:16
    Ed - In God I Trust
    Yes, but banning the dog is not the answer, we need to start getting our legislators to pass stringent animal abuse and neglect laws, AND then ENFORCE them against the people that do this.

    Let me give you a good example of what I'm talking about. We have a female Chow, (Bear), that the original owner had until she was 10 months old. We had given him a 40 lb. sack of dry dog food for her because he was unemployed. They kept her chained up in an 8 foot by 8 foot back yard, with no shelter, nor food or water outside.Bear was actually eating her own feces to survive while the 40 lbs. of food sat unopened inside the house. His next door neighbor called the police on him because he was whipping her with a chain leash, for," staring at him through the patio door". We even found out later, that the owners son used to throw lit firecrackers at her while she was chained up in back. The animal control officer knew us well and asked us if we would take care of Bear, naturally we took her in with our Pit Bull and Yellow Lab. The S.O.B. that abused her was fined $150 and required to take 1 week of anger management. He then went back to court to force us to give Bear back to him. Luckily, I was given the opportunity to speak with the judge, and I explained to the judge that we had had Bear in...'
    Yes, but banning the dog is not the answer, we need to start getting our legislators to pass stringent animal abuse and neglect laws, AND then ENFORCE them against the people that do this.

    Let me give you a good example of what I'm talking about. We have a female Chow, (Bear), that the original owner had until she was 10 months old. We had given him a 40 lb. sack of dry dog food for her because he was unemployed. They kept her chained up in an 8 foot by 8 foot back yard, with no shelter, nor food or water outside.Bear was actually eating her own feces to survive while the 40 lbs. of food sat unopened inside the house. His next door neighbor called the police on him because he was whipping her with a chain leash, for," staring at him through the patio door". We even found out later, that the owners son used to throw lit firecrackers at her while she was chained up in back. The animal control officer knew us well and asked us if we would take care of Bear, naturally we took her in with our Pit Bull and Yellow Lab. The S.O.B. that abused her was fined $150 and required to take 1 week of anger management. He then went back to court to force us to give Bear back to him. Luckily, I was given the opportunity to speak with the judge, and I explained to the judge that we had had Bear in our home for 2 months, and that she was part of our family now. I also pointed out that all he wanted was to get her and kill her for causing him trouble and that I would not allow that. I pointed out that, I didn't care what the court ruled, that Bear was in fact staying with us permanently. Thankfully, the judge ruled in our favor and Bear is still with us.
    But, Candle, this is why I say absolutely NO to a ban on ANY dog. But, it is past time that we started initiating extremely strict animal rights laws and even stricter enforcement of those laws.
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    Ed - In... CandleW... July 10, 2008 05:13:35
    Ed - In God I Trust
    Candle, Here is a website that I wish more people would look at and read about the incredible abuse the Pit Bull is all too commonly subjected to. I will warn you first that the photos are very graphic !!!
    As the site says initially;

    Pit Bull Abuse

    "You are responsible forever for what you have tamed." (From *The Little Prince*)

    Pit Bulls are probably the most abused dogs on the planet. The breed suffers horribly at the hand of humans. In the face of potential and outright banning of this breed, the dogs--very real victims--are often completely overlooked. Take a good, hard, long look at the photos below.....

    http://www.realpitbull.com/ab...

    After seeing this, how can anyone say "ban the breed"? Instead, let's start getting abusers out of society; let's make animal neglect or abuse a FELONY and start enforcement.
  • +2
    Noah C. July 08, 2008 19:30:09
    Noah C.

    No. It is how or who raises them that makes the difference.

    no more than any other dog.
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    Rick July 08, 2008 19:27:06
    Rick

    UNDECIDED. I need more information.

    Don't know. I have a friend that has two of them. They are very friendly dogs. But I wouldn't trust it to stay that way.
  • +5
    Ed - In God I Trust July 08, 2008 15:29:56
    Ed - In God I Trust

    No. It's who raises them, but they should still be banned.

    The issue of Pit Bulls being "Natural Born Killers" is ludicrous at best. For every "professional" that states they are, I can show you just as many that DISAGREE vehemently. The "nature" of any animal, just as children, is strongly influenced by how it was treated and raised. This exact same argument was raised against German Shepherd's in the 70's, Doberman Pinscher's in the 80's, the Rottweiler's in the 90's, and now the Pit Bull. We have owned, throughout the years, German Shepherds and Pit Bulls without ONE SINGLE incident, and have raised 5 children and 12 grandchildren around them. The fact about the Pit Bull that escapes media attention is that a nursing Pit Bull pup will actually quit nursing and leave its mother to be around humans. A Pit Bull doesn't just desire human attention and affection, it desperately craves it. Thus, the jerks that take a Pit Bull and chain it up and ignore it, are in fact creating an antisocial animal. These facts come from the Animal Shelter where we adopted our first Pit Bull pup in Buena Vista, Colorado.
    Also, a few more facts for the "Professionals"; these statistics and more can be found at; http://www.dogsbite.org/bite-...

    Study highlights

    * Biters are 6.2 times as likely to be male than female
    * Biters are 2.6 times as likely to be intact...'''
    The issue of Pit Bulls being "Natural Born Killers" is ludicrous at best. For every "professional" that states they are, I can show you just as many that DISAGREE vehemently. The "nature" of any animal, just as children, is strongly influenced by how it was treated and raised. This exact same argument was raised against German Shepherd's in the 70's, Doberman Pinscher's in the 80's, the Rottweiler's in the 90's, and now the Pit Bull. We have owned, throughout the years, German Shepherds and Pit Bulls without ONE SINGLE incident, and have raised 5 children and 12 grandchildren around them. The fact about the Pit Bull that escapes media attention is that a nursing Pit Bull pup will actually quit nursing and leave its mother to be around humans. A Pit Bull doesn't just desire human attention and affection, it desperately craves it. Thus, the jerks that take a Pit Bull and chain it up and ignore it, are in fact creating an antisocial animal. These facts come from the Animal Shelter where we adopted our first Pit Bull pup in Buena Vista, Colorado.
    Also, a few more facts for the "Professionals"; these statistics and more can be found at; http://www.dogsbite.org/bite-...

    Study highlights

    * Biters are 6.2 times as likely to be male than female
    * Biters are 2.6 times as likely to be intact than neutered
    * Biters are 2.8 times as likely to be chained as unchained
    * Biters were significantly more likely to be German Shepherd or Chow Chow, male and unneutered, 50lbs and above and under 5 years of age
    * Biters were significantly more likely to reside in a house with one or more children and more likely to be chained while in the yard
    * Children aged 12 and younger were the victims in 51% of all cases; the median age of all bite victims was 12 years (range 1-83 years)
    * 64% of bite victims were male
    * 76% of the bites were recorded as minor and 24% as severe
    * 50% of bites occurred on the sidewalk, street, alley or playground; 30% in the owner's yard; 14% in the owner's house and 4% in the victim's yard
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  • +2
    sd July 08, 2008 08:15:07
    sd

    No. It is how or who raises them that makes the difference.

    As long as you raise your dog right.
  • +4
    ♥ Ellen ...☼True American... July 08, 2008 03:33:23
    ♥ Ellen   ...☼True American Patriot ☼...

    UNDECIDED. I need more information.

    i wouldn't have one! i'm scared to death of them. certain breeds scare me like that...
  • +1
    NANANOBAMA July 08, 2008 02:20:28 (edited)
    NANANOBAMA

    No. It's who raises them, but they should still be banned.

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  • +10
    mary July 08, 2008 02:08:38
    mary

    UNDECIDED. I need more information.

    I work in a hospital and I see more dog bites from these animals more than anyother. The parent will say he has never done anything like this before. I hear it all the time.
  • +4
    Ed - In... mary July 10, 2008 06:48:37
    Ed - In God I Trust
    Mary,
    I'm glad to see that you say that you need more info to make a decision. Here is a great book; The Pit Bull Placebo by Karen Dellise. Published by Anubis Publishing in 2007. This is one of the best books I've read on the Pit Bull.

    The following is an excerpt from the book;

    First it was the Bloodhound, sensationalized in the dramatizations of Uncle Tom's Cabin. Then it was the Doberman, symbol of the Nazi menace. Today, it is the Pit bull that is vilified for the depravity of his masters. Today, police chase down fleeing Pit bulls in the street, firing dozens of wild shots in response to media-fed rumors of supernatural Pit bull abilities. Politicians coach and nurture this fear with their own brand of rhetoric used to assist in the passing of quick and ineffective legislation created to pacify communities ignorant of the real cause for dog attacks. Hundreds of animal shelters throughout the country kill all unclaimed Pit bull-looking dogs, as they are deemed "unadoptable" solely on their physical appearance. This has occurred because the human/dog bond, the most complex and profound inter-species relationship in the history of mankind, has been reduced to a simple axiom: Breed of dog = degree of dangerousness. We have come to accept that hanging entire breeds of dogs in effigy...'""
    Mary,
    I'm glad to see that you say that you need more info to make a decision. Here is a great book; The Pit Bull Placebo by Karen Dellise. Published by Anubis Publishing in 2007. This is one of the best books I've read on the Pit Bull.

    The following is an excerpt from the book;

    First it was the Bloodhound, sensationalized in the dramatizations of Uncle Tom's Cabin. Then it was the Doberman, symbol of the Nazi menace. Today, it is the Pit bull that is vilified for the depravity of his masters. Today, police chase down fleeing Pit bulls in the street, firing dozens of wild shots in response to media-fed rumors of supernatural Pit bull abilities. Politicians coach and nurture this fear with their own brand of rhetoric used to assist in the passing of quick and ineffective legislation created to pacify communities ignorant of the real cause for dog attacks. Hundreds of animal shelters throughout the country kill all unclaimed Pit bull-looking dogs, as they are deemed "unadoptable" solely on their physical appearance. This has occurred because the human/dog bond, the most complex and profound inter-species relationship in the history of mankind, has been reduced to a simple axiom: Breed of dog = degree of dangerousness. We have come to accept that hanging entire breeds of dogs in effigy for the sins of their owners is an acceptable solution to canine aggression because we have been placated by a Pit Bull Placebo. Like the pharmacologically inactive sugar pill dispensed to pacify a patient who supposes it to be medicine, eradication of the Pit bull is the placebo administered to ease the public's anxiety about dog attacks. The book, The Pit Bull Placebo: The Media, Myths and Politics of Canine Aggression, explores how our views and beliefs about canine aggression have changed over the last 150 years and how our perceptions about the nature and behavior of dogs has been influenced by persons and organizations who often times disseminate information about dog attacks which is tailored to further an agenda unrelated to the improvement of the human/dog bond. We are in the midst of a social hysteria about Pit bulls because we have abandoned centuries-old common-sense and have been duped by inaccurate reporting from the "Pit Bull Paparazzi" and by politicians who traffic in rumors, myths and pseudoscience in their efforts to pass legislation that demonizes dogs while exonerating criminal and abusive owners. If we truly believe that the extremely rare cases of fatal dog attacks merit extreme measures in the management of dogs, if our concern and shock is genuine, then we must be equally genuine and sincere in seeking out and addressing the real causes for these incidents. Only by stepping back from the swirl of present-day hysteria surrounding isolated cases of severe canine aggression and examining the problem from a broader and more objective perspective can we hope to understand and address the human and canine behaviors which contribute to these incidents.
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    mary Ed - In... July 10, 2008 09:41:05
    mary
    Thanks Ed, I certainly know about media hype(obama) and the dogs are not different.
  • +2
    Ed - In... mary July 14, 2008 04:58:20
    Ed - In God I Trust
    I'm not certain how I managed to screw this up, but I intended to vote for NO BAN!
  • +1
    chels mary December 13, 2008 03:51:00
    chels
    Well i see that you stated that you work in an animal hospital and you "see more bites from these animals than any other breed" that may be true where you work but i myself have worked at a HUGE animal clinic in memphis tn and have been there for 7 years and there has only been 2 "mean" pitbulls amungst over 100's of "mean" dogs from a different variety of breeds..... So its not right to pass judgement on this breed and this breed alone THERE ARE MEAN AND "VICIOUS" ANIMALS IN EVERY LAST BREED THERE ARE. i have owned pitbulls for years and have never had an agressive one period and my female sleeps in the same bed as my neice which is 5 years old and that is her absolute best friend so for yall to say they are natural born killers and they are all "unpredictable" is absurd!!! and yes you may be right that the american pitbull terrier hold the highest RECORDED bites and yes that is because 1,000s of people mistake different dogs for pitbulls EVERYDAY!!!! And do you think that people call and make police reports everytime a Lab attacks?? well of course not its "the all american breed" in which it isnt anymore, do your research and you can see that that that has changed dramatically because they are over populated and bred wrong and are becoming more aggressive so maybe you should do more rese...""
    Well i see that you stated that you work in an animal hospital and you "see more bites from these animals than any other breed" that may be true where you work but i myself have worked at a HUGE animal clinic in memphis tn and have been there for 7 years and there has only been 2 "mean" pitbulls amungst over 100's of "mean" dogs from a different variety of breeds..... So its not right to pass judgement on this breed and this breed alone THERE ARE MEAN AND "VICIOUS" ANIMALS IN EVERY LAST BREED THERE ARE. i have owned pitbulls for years and have never had an agressive one period and my female sleeps in the same bed as my neice which is 5 years old and that is her absolute best friend so for yall to say they are natural born killers and they are all "unpredictable" is absurd!!! and yes you may be right that the american pitbull terrier hold the highest RECORDED bites and yes that is because 1,000s of people mistake different dogs for pitbulls EVERYDAY!!!! And do you think that people call and make police reports everytime a Lab attacks?? well of course not its "the all american breed" in which it isnt anymore, do your research and you can see that that that has changed dramatically because they are over populated and bred wrong and are becoming more aggressive so maybe you should do more research on ALL breeds and not focus in on the pitbull like everybody else in this world. everybody has thier opinions on different breeds of dogs and thats fine your entitled to that BUT if you dont like them then dont knock the breed just dont own them...because me being an owner i know how they are and how loyal they are to family and even strangers that you alls encite on them is totally off and you should really do more research rather then giving the breed more negative display, like it already doesnt have enough..Nobody is forcing you to own one so why waste your time trying to make it be known that they are "HORRIBLE" i wish you people that think things things would get one and own it for a few years and then come back to me and tell me your opinion on the breed because until then your opinion doesnt matter because you have no clue what your talking about. you just go by he say she say...

    Now with saying that no i am not saying that a no pitbulls will attack because some will just like in every breed... but the REAL percentage of them that wont over weighs the ones that will by FAR..

    Just putting in my incite as a Pitbull owner, since my opinion counts and your doesnt.
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  • +5
    RubyTuesday July 08, 2008 01:01:06
    RubyTuesday

    No. It is how or who raises them that makes the difference.

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    Alphalily July 07, 2008 23:07:57
    Alphalily

    No. It is how or who raises them that makes the difference.

    My stepfather use to raise pits and he raised them so that I was never afraid to be around them: any animal can be made mean .If you mistreat an animal they learn hate the same way we humans do.
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    Magzilla ~is a new momma~ July 07, 2008 22:13:46
    Magzilla ~is a new momma~

    No. It is how or who raises them that makes the difference.

    Mosquitoes transfer diseases that kills thousands more people than what pit bulls kill each year so I think we should outlaw mosquitoes
  • +2
    Ace~Mr.... Magzill... July 08, 2008 17:41:28
    Ace~Mr.Giantess~
    But it doesn't hurt as bad as when a dog bites you.
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    Magzill... Ace~Mr.... July 08, 2008 18:12:19
    Magzilla ~is a new momma~
    Not always, disease can be very painful.
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    Ace~Mr.... Magzill... July 08, 2008 18:13:26
    Ace~Mr.Giantess~
    Okay, people don't own (usually) mosquitoes as pets.
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    Magzill... Ace~Mr.... July 08, 2008 18:16:32
    Magzilla ~is a new momma~
    I know, I was being a smartass. My point was that the bug kills a lot more people than the dog and not all dogs in the breed kill or bite either
  • +2
    Ace~Mr.... Magzill... July 08, 2008 18:21:34
    Ace~Mr.Giantess~
    Right.
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    Ace~Mr.Giantess~ July 07, 2008 22:12:05
    Ace~Mr.Giantess~

    No. It's who raises them, but they should still be banned.

    You can train any dog to be mean, but if people keep training pit bulls to be mean just because then they should be banned.
  • +3
    Ed - In... Ace~Mr.... July 08, 2008 15:33:26
    Ed - In God I Trust
    If the government would start prosecuting those that abuse or neglect the animals, that type of problem would stop. Banning the animal for what its master does to it is ridiculous.
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    Ace~Mr.... Ed - In... July 08, 2008 17:40:06
    Ace~Mr.Giantess~
    I just meant that if people get pit bulls just to train them to be aggressive then the should probably be banned for that reason.
  • +2
    Ed - In... Ace~Mr.... July 09, 2008 09:28:56
    Ed - In God I Trust
    Yes, I know, but why ban the dog. The dog has done nothing to deserve banishment, it's the owner that caused the problem. This is the same argument that the gun control advocates use. Ban the gun, thus no problem. All you have to do is look at our nations capital to see how well that works.
  • +3
    coffee man July 07, 2008 21:49:35
    coffee man

    UNDECIDED. I need more information.

    I'm torn on this. People say that it's not the type of dog that makes them mean. its' the way they are raised. And saying that I have seen a massive pit bull that was by all means a gentle giant. So that makes me think it's the way they are raised. But then I remember how some dogs are natural trackers and how some naturally like water or they are natural retrievers and I think that there are traits that certain breeds are born with.
    I haven't figured it out yet.
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