Are people, who bring their annoying screaming kids out in public, infringing on your "American" right to a stress free environment?

I would not go so far as to call it a "right infringement", but I am tempted to beat the whole family with a rubber hose.

That is not a right.

Yeah, there seem to be an inordinate number of hyper & obnoxious kids today. We feed them sugar sugar sugar (read: high fructose corn syrup) & then can't figure out why they won't sit down or be quiet or are unable to focus at school. Parents spend their time on their mobile phones, texting & chatting instead of paying attention to their kids. We give kids drugs for all sorts of problems, teaching them that 1) there's something wrong with them & 2) that there is a drug they should take to "fix" whatever is going on in their life that isn't "perfect. Yup. There are loads of problems in our society... most seem to have a lot to do with parents not really being parents anymore, for whatever reason.

I do believe that store/restaurant managers/owners have the right to ask parents to either quiet their children or remove them because they're hurting business. But I don't believe that customers have the right to ask the parents to leave. The uncomfortable patrons can vote with their feet, which will then affect the actions of the manager/owner.
That's sorta how free markets work in a nutshell.

You have no such right. Even if you did you have no reason for such an expectation.

my god,yes! two days in a row,i was annoyed by someone's spoiled screaming brat of a kid in the store. i think it should be store policy...when they act like that,the parent should be told to take her kid and leave.

Keep them at home...

It is one thing to bring up a spoiled brat that **habitually** screams, cries and throws fits in order to manipulate it's parents but it's quite another to think that all children should stay home because they might, being human children, cry and scream **sometime** in their lives.



If any of mine tried the spoiled brat act, they were removed from the store or whatever as soon as possible. That means their crying was witnessed first and then they were removed because children need to get timely, fitting, meaningful consequences rather than punitive "precog" measures.



I don't know what produces more warped children -- shutting them away least they ever might offend or bringing up spoiled brats. I suspect the former can more often be more deeply injurious to development. Neither extreme is good!

i don't think she met ALL children,just that ill behaved ones

But it just proves that people cause more stress than anything else.

It can be annoying, but I don't let petty things annoy me. If I did, I would be a very unhappy person.

They aren't infringing on my rights but they are pissing me off.

If you can't or don't want to parent.. don't have kids! It's an 18 year job with no time off and no clocking out and going home.

All I know is that parents today don't even try to teach their kids how to behave out in public. They just let them act out regardless of where or when.

well,punishing them in any way shape or form is abuse these days

But speaking to them in a firm manner so they know you mean business is not abuse and many parents don't even make that effort.

that woman i saw today,was just caualy walking through the store and just let her kid scream,even stood in front of the exit at walmart just taking her time. and another thing,you just wait,eventually,talking to a child in a firm voice will be abuse too

I agree! Gov't interferes too much with the family. It got too far out of hand when it ruled that kids can sue their parents for disciplining them!!!

kids can sur for being disciplined now??? wtf?? i'd better go sue MINE then! well,i'd probably actually have cause to do that lol. and i agree government has to much power,these days people like to empower the government for every little thing.

It depends on where- in a fancy restaurant yes, walking down the street no.

There is no right to a stress free environment. If I were on a plane next to a screaming kid I'd ask to move.

No, if I don't want to listen to it, I'll just leave.

but what if your ayt the store with groceries in tyour cart? u just gonna drop everything and leave? THEY should be the ones leaving.

I'd just go to a different area of the store if some parent has lack of respect for other shoppers. You really just have to take it by incident basis. If I think a mother is clearly overwhelmed by the way her kid is acting and if the child isn't being a brat and is overwhelmed as well, I pitch into help and diffuse the situation for her or ask her if there is anything that I can do for her to help her.

Sometimes that just means saying something like "I know how he feels, I've been shopping all day long too" to let a clueless mother in on the fact that her kid is tired. If the kid is crying due to boredom, I give them pen & paper and say something like "why dont you draw why your mom finishes up her shopping and then you can go home and get your nap." (hint,hint). One time I said, "I know what you're going through, I remember those days...sometimes I felt so overwhelmed that I never thought I get through them and if it weren't for the help from friends/family/or kind strangers, I dont know how my family would have ever ate!...Can I help you in some way?"

i could here that kid screaming all throughout super walmart and the mother didn't look a bit concerned about it. and i'm not a people person,i try to avoid people as much as possible. i was forced to leave the confines of my "fortress of solitude" here,to travel out in search of sustenance.

LOL. Maybe you should contact the store and find out at what times a day there is less likely to be some screaming kid there. I'm thinking around 10pm as it's past their bedtimes, but less face it, it's WALMART and there's ALWAYS some kid crying there. Sometimes I must admit, when I see someone spanking their child for their behavior, in my head I'm thinking spank them again or it's about time, but that's usually because of a bad mood that I'm in or if Im stressed out, so I feel for you.

My kids only acted up as spoiled brats ONE time while out in public with me and I cured them of it real fast by picking them up and carrying them to the car and leaving after notifying customer service that I would be back later to grab my cart of stuff and finish shopping. The next few times I went out, I made it a point not to take them and let them know it was b/c of their behavior the previous time and that was that. Problem solved and they never crossed me again like that in public. My kids knew that my no meant no.

trouble is,you spank your kid in public,people will call the cops for abuse! hell,i even heard of one person calling the cops cause they gave their kid a time out! idk how one would give a child a time out in the store though...but yes,the proper thing to do is take them out of there for awhile. many kids today don't know the meaning of the word no.

You don't have a right to a stress-free environment.

I think people have a responsibility to socialize their children as much as they do their dogs.

Only if they allow them to continue their unacceptable public behavior.

part of being "Civilized" is learning when to control one self...

No more than that dog that took a dump on my front lawn and i step in it on my way to my car. Sure, I could start shooting dogs, but then PETA would call Pamela Anderson to come tell me how bad a person I am, which would then infringe on her personal time to make sex tapes.

There are greater things more stressful than a screaming child. Rude, demanding adults for one.

Where exactly is that "right" listed?

*lolz

There is no such thing as 'a stress free environment', IMO.

Other people make it an impossibility.

next to the "right to breath clean air" around smokers clause

No such thing.

Life, liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness, that's all; no substitutions exchanges or refunds.

lol i know. Im just being sarcastic. In today's society, more and more people are screaming for laws to force the nation to cater to their special needs and requirements

Today's society is self-centered, unsustainable and delusional.

What makes you think that anyone had the "right" to a stress free environment? If you're out in public you can expect kids to be around and some of them may act up for one reason or another. Hopefully the parent will try to control the kids and not allow them to act up but sometimes it's impossible especially if the child is tired, hungry or maybe even sick.
That said, when my children were young, I would have certainly taken them out of a restaurant if they were carrying on, crying whatever. And they wouldn't come back until they had calmed down and agreed to behave. A lot of parents don't do that but I always felt that if a child was misbehaving for whatever reason, it's time to take them out, get them to calm down and not return until they are in control again.
If you're out in public, disturbances should be expected.

Well Said!

-If you're out in public, disturbances should be expected.

which is how i feel about second hand smoke, but people so readily bust out with "their american right to breathe clean air" demand in order to ban smoking

Well, a lot of places don't allow smoking any longer. And beside, you're talking about having to breathe in someone elses carcinogen, not a child who is acting like a child sometimes acts.

i breath that in every second that cars are being used . . . or power plants are in operation or farmers are spraying the crops. If i child is annoying me . . . i could have an anxiety attack and stroke out and die. . . . or. . . . i could get so stressed out that i have to go outside and smoke and drink

give me the cigarette smoke any day!