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Are our laws selectively enforced in an unjust fashion and manipulated to fit the desires of it's enforcers?

Anthony Souls 2012/04/17 03:04:37
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  • Rusty Shackleford 2012/05/08 15:39:15
    Yes
    Rusty Shackleford
    No question about it.
  • jackie 2012/04/25 02:59:05
    Maybe So
    jackie
    There should be a sometimes option.
  • Rusty S... jackie 2012/05/08 15:40:11
    Rusty Shackleford
    If they are "sometimes" enforced, then as "Yes" answer is called for here.
  • Kaimeso 2012/04/23 22:32:04
    Yes
    Kaimeso
    Yes, or at least whenever those powers that be think they can get away with it,..
  • intolerantrwj 2012/04/23 18:29:57
    Maybe So
    intolerantrwj
    +1
    ..... are you asking if the guy in Florida is being Mike Nifong'd by the Powers-That-Be ?

    If so, then I'd agree.
  • charles_1 2012/04/22 20:43:57
    Yes
    charles_1
    +1
    There's enough laws on the books, many very vague, that everyone is a criminal even though most people don't know it. If someone in power wants to get you, they will find a law that fits.
  • big T 2012/04/22 20:39:32
    Yes
    big T
    Well, they gave me this old coat
    Said "It'll keep you mighty warm
    It'll see you thruogh the winter
    It's your 'By God' uniform!"
    So I wear it everyday
    And I sleep in it at night
    Now it's twenty shades of ray
    And the waist is shrunk too tight
    And the bottom's caked and muddy
    And the buttons are half gone
    But just like you and me
    This old gray coat wears on
    And when I die in this gray coat
    I'm gonna' march through heaven's door
    I'm gonna' walk up to St. Peter
    And tell him "Send me back for more"
    Cause I'll be damned if I'll just sit around
    While you boys win the war
    Cuase even when I'm dead
    Shot full of Yankee lead
    There'll be part of me keeps hangin' by a thread...
    Of this old gray coat
    When I think of all the places
    This old coat and me have been
    Through the fat and lean and inbetween
    Double quick through thick and thin
    From the ballrooms down in Richmond
    To the top of Marye's heights
    From Manassas to the Wilderness
    And a hundred other fights
    Now the collar's torn and tattered
    And the elbow's worn clean through
    But, buddy, in a pinch
    This old gray coat will do
    And when I die in this gray coat
    And when they come to bury me
    If they commence to sheechafyin'
    And singin' "Nearer, Lord, to thee"
    Well, be damn sure I ain't just sleepin'
    Cause I flat out guarantee
    That even when I'm dead
    ...




















    Well, they gave me this old coat
    Said "It'll keep you mighty warm
    It'll see you thruogh the winter
    It's your 'By God' uniform!"
    So I wear it everyday
    And I sleep in it at night
    Now it's twenty shades of ray
    And the waist is shrunk too tight
    And the bottom's caked and muddy
    And the buttons are half gone
    But just like you and me
    This old gray coat wears on
    And when I die in this gray coat
    I'm gonna' march through heaven's door
    I'm gonna' walk up to St. Peter
    And tell him "Send me back for more"
    Cause I'll be damned if I'll just sit around
    While you boys win the war
    Cuase even when I'm dead
    Shot full of Yankee lead
    There'll be part of me keeps hangin' by a thread...
    Of this old gray coat
    When I think of all the places
    This old coat and me have been
    Through the fat and lean and inbetween
    Double quick through thick and thin
    From the ballrooms down in Richmond
    To the top of Marye's heights
    From Manassas to the Wilderness
    And a hundred other fights
    Now the collar's torn and tattered
    And the elbow's worn clean through
    But, buddy, in a pinch
    This old gray coat will do
    And when I die in this gray coat
    And when they come to bury me
    If they commence to sheechafyin'
    And singin' "Nearer, Lord, to thee"
    Well, be damn sure I ain't just sleepin'
    Cause I flat out guarantee
    That even when I'm dead
    Shot full of Yankee lead
    That the toughest part lives on in every shred
    Of this old gray caot
    You can cut my throat
    You can sink my boat
    But you can never stop this old gray coat
    When my bones you tote
    When that's all she wrote
    I'll fight on inside this old gray coat
    Cause when I die in this gray coat
    I'm gonna march through heaven's gate
    I'm gonna walk up to St. Peter
    And tell him "Send me back for more"
    Cause I'll be damned if I'll just sit around
    While you boys win the war
    Cause even when I'm dead
    Shot full of Yankee lead
    There ain't nothin' that I'd rather wear instead
    Of this old gray coat
    This old gray coat
    I'll go down in this old gray coat
    This old gray coat
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  • JohnT 2012/04/21 22:38:32
    Yes
    JohnT
    Enforcing laws without bias is really not possible. As we are human and have our own built in prejudices and paradigms, thus no such thing as clinical enforcement. People do the best they can and some have no business being in a Law Enforcement positions because they have issues and some should have been weeded out, but by and large we do well in our country. The legislation itself that created the specific law often is the problem. Either the law is redundant (already in place) or it carries way too many provisions that make comprehension and enforcement difficult such as the California 3 time offense and than life in prison law. Too many people sent to prison for life for crimes
    that are drug related but caused no injury to a person such as mayhem or murder. You pose a difficult question that could take a doctoral thesis to answer
  • Chris- Demon of the PHAET 2012/04/21 08:26:47
    Yes
    Chris- Demon of the PHAET
    +1
    I would argue that has always been the case. In every society since the beginning of time.
  • Flamingolady 2012/04/21 03:40:34
    Maybe So
    Flamingolady
    It is subjective.
  • Charlotte 2012/04/19 22:57:15
    Yes
    Charlotte
    When it comes to any type of politics or law, it's all about who you know - not what is right or brings justice.
  • overdog001 2012/04/19 17:11:17
    Yes
    overdog001
    +1
    When's the last time you read about a judge sent to jail? A senator?
  • afro.ninja.rockstar 2012/04/19 16:29:04
    Other (Explain)
    afro.ninja.rockstar
    wear what you want..
  • cuzzbuzzla 2012/04/19 06:03:53
    Maybe So
    cuzzbuzzla
    things are certainly set up to give those in power that option.
  • Mark Mercer 2012/04/18 18:17:48
    Yes
    Mark Mercer
    +1
    That's human nature.....Just look at the people that claim to be 'Christians' and the way they follow the words of Christ.....
  • Anthony... Mark Me... 2012/04/18 22:33:08
    Anthony Souls
    Never considered applying that philosophy to religion. I am a Christian, and I would have to agree :P

    TC TFYR
  • kuromifan 2012/04/18 17:04:42
    Yes
    kuromifan
    I know a person who went to jail for hitting her daughter mind you her daughter is 14 bad and almost the same size and height as her mom, the little girl is out of control was disciplined for running away. to make a long story short she was put in the same jail cell as a woman who failed to make her son go to school really I can't make this up. This happens all the time, i have seen people who know a police sergeant personally mention his name and get out of a ticket where if it were me i would have no chance in hell. this happened in a small city but like it's said injustice somewhere is injustice everywhere.
  • Anthony... kuromifan 2012/04/18 22:34:41
    Anthony Souls
    Indeed, we have to fix detrimental problems to preserve the essence of our foundation.

    TC TFYR
  • Gassenjunge 2012/04/18 03:48:26
    Yes
    Gassenjunge
    That's often practiced: When determining which motorist's infraction gets ticketed; when to cite someone for other types of civil violations; when political favor is being considered (not ticketing a mayor's personal car when not being used for official business); when letting a lighter-weight criminal off the hook in return for his help with catching bigger fish...stuff like that isn't unheard of.
  • Anthony... Gassenj... 2012/04/18 03:50:49
    Anthony Souls
    +1
    Is that justice?

    TC
  • Gassenj... Anthony... 2012/04/18 04:32:03
    Gassenjunge
    Sometimes it's just, sometimes it isn't - nothing's always black and white.
  • Anthony... Gassenj... 2012/04/18 04:32:38
    Anthony Souls
    Would you admit that black and white exists?
  • 2012/04/17 21:57:59
    Yes
    absolutly I have no doubts. man made laws are used to benefit the few over the many and they enforce them against those they feel is a threat to their money and power or advantage. this is nothing new. all humans in posiitons of authority abuse it to their advantage.

    rose
  • cynsity 2012/04/17 18:50:18
    Yes
    cynsity
    And the reason is very simple. We use to have "rule of law" which meant that all laws applied and were applied to everyone equally. Very little wiggle room for anything "mitigating".
    But then people stopped wanting to have to be held responsibile and someone came up with the theory of "social justice" which basicly is the theory that certain people will behave in certain manners do to their placement in society. And while it is historically true taht certain social classes do certain social things prior to social justice the people were still processed under rule of law and so the penilities where the same. Now, they are not.
    Now if a person commits a crime against society everything from how much money he had to what schools he went to and even what religion he practices is considered and thus laws and "justice" are no longer applied equally.
  • EdVenture 2012/04/17 18:15:08 (edited)
    Other (Explain)
    EdVenture
    Yes and No, for a whaft of reasons. Opinion .....My first opinion is that laws are passed to protect, guide, compel, unify and improve the quality of life, safety of our community not to alienate one or many from their rights. A good law leaves no room for interpretation. I site the recent florida tragedy and pubic sentiment (not my opinion). Manipulation of the laws is not acceptable depending on the nature of the manipulation. If a law cannot stand on its own and preserve ones rights, it needs to be repealed or amended. Laws and enforcement are two different animals. Keying in on the words “enforced in an unjust fashion” if the meaning of unjust suggests unjustified a meaningful answer, or opinion would require a specific law, if it was clearly written, its purpose and intent were known and appropriate enforcement (checks and balances) were administered. People enforce laws so personality, opinion, priority, strategy, or agenda can play a role. A problem I see that arises is personal frustration or perspective may cross the line which compromises everything including the intent and purpose of the law. Unjust selective enforcement might be inadequately staffing a high crime zone or neighborhood. Unjust selective enforcement might be posting speed traps for citation revenues, ...
    Yes and No, for a whaft of reasons. Opinion .....My first opinion is that laws are passed to protect, guide, compel, unify and improve the quality of life, safety of our community not to alienate one or many from their rights. A good law leaves no room for interpretation. I site the recent florida tragedy and pubic sentiment (not my opinion). Manipulation of the laws is not acceptable depending on the nature of the manipulation. If a law cannot stand on its own and preserve ones rights, it needs to be repealed or amended. Laws and enforcement are two different animals. Keying in on the words “enforced in an unjust fashion” if the meaning of unjust suggests unjustified a meaningful answer, or opinion would require a specific law, if it was clearly written, its purpose and intent were known and appropriate enforcement (checks and balances) were administered. People enforce laws so personality, opinion, priority, strategy, or agenda can play a role. A problem I see that arises is personal frustration or perspective may cross the line which compromises everything including the intent and purpose of the law. Unjust selective enforcement might be inadequately staffing a high crime zone or neighborhood. Unjust selective enforcement might be posting speed traps for citation revenues, on interstate highways that local drivers don’t often use. Unjust selective enforcement might be labeling a group or certain attire as the likely offender of a crime. Unfair and selective enforcement would be responding to one group with more vigor than another. Justified selective enforcement can be rightfully appropriate under certain circumstances.
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  • Eņģelis☩ 2012/04/17 17:57:42
    Yes
    Eņģelis☩
    You couldnt put it in a better way..
  • Dave0626 2012/04/17 17:21:42
    Yes
    Dave0626
    A lot of laws are for safety reasons which are OK. But many are to frivolous and not enforced unless it is convenient for the law makers, and a benefit to them. One example might be picking up after your dog. No one really enforces it..unless someone rats the offender out. Then the law makers lower the hammer on the offender just to make some money off them via fines. Speed traps? ...Now there's an 'easier money' maker for the State! And then there are just too many stupid laws that simply should not exist. Where decency and common sense should prevail....not some 'law'.

    Also, there are some laws that simply don't exist. One being, the 'law' that requires citizens to pay taxes ~ IT DOESN'T EXIST!
  • Mike 2012/04/17 16:23:18
    Other (Explain)
    Mike
    In some cases absolutely - just like ignoring or spinning the constitution when one party deems appropriate to their own benefit
  • J 2012/04/17 16:05:49
    No
    J
    What laws?
  • frank 2012/04/17 16:02:20
    Yes
    frank
    +2
    Just look at illegal immigration, government files law suits against states who want to enforce it.
  • crewzer1 2012/04/17 15:55:37
    Yes
    crewzer1
    +1
    Absolutely and it shows.
  • NhytFahl 2012/04/17 15:53:53 (edited)
    Other (Explain)
    NhytFahl
    +1
    Too many people commit the fallacy of conflating law with justice. They are not the same thing. Never have been.

    "Law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." - Thomas Jefferson

    "Bad laws SHOULD be disobeyed." - Henry David Thoreau
  • CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY 2012/04/17 15:52:27
    Yes
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    +1
    Yep. It REALLY helps to be a Democrat liberal progressive communist too. They always get a pass.
  • John Galt jr or Ron/jon 2012/04/17 09:11:50
  • Woody 2012/04/17 07:55:16
    Yes
    Woody
    Why ,of course...
  • wolf sloan 2012/04/17 04:15:18
    Yes
    wolf sloan
    DUH
  • sockpuppet 2012/04/17 03:41:17
    Maybe So
    sockpuppet
    ...but I think that certain types of people tend to commit violent crimes without even trying to be slick about it, and they get caught and prosecuted more frequently as a result of their own stupidity. It's a theory.
  • Anthony... sockpuppet 2012/04/17 03:42:57
    Anthony Souls
    +2
    I would agree that there is an enormous amount of dumb ass criminals out there :P

    Take care,
  • say what? 2012/04/17 03:33:46
    Yes
    say what?
    Absolutely
  • Anthony... say what? 2012/04/17 03:35:10
    Anthony Souls
    Then, to what degree does it occur? :P

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