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Are homosexuals born gay, or is it their choice?
Faith ~American Patriot~ April 28, 2008 06:23:18
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I have always thought that they were born this way, but in reading other polls I am seeing that many disagree. I was just curious to hear what people thought. PLEASE don't turn this into a "bash fest", that is not what this poll is for.
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Born This WAY!!
It is my unmitigated opinion that people are born with their sexual preference. I don't ever recall Choosing to be hetro and I seriously doubt anyone else can either.View thread
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Studies have indicated that the brains of gay males are wired more like a heterosexual females brain, than a heterosexual males. As far as I am aware, they have not yet attempted to use the same medical equiptment on lesbians to see if the same is true.
Matt Wayne,
You are an idiot!... You and your wife must be denying being farm animals, because everybody knows that heterosexual men and women don't partake in anal sex, oral sex, threesomes, foursomes, swinging... YEAH RIGHT! Please stop being a loser and stop trying to invent fallacies against your fellow man!
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Homosexuals simply feel attraction to those who are of the same gender, though that doesn't mean that they are attracted to everyone of the same gender. (That last part is for all of those people who think that they'd be "unsafe" in public showers with those who are homosexuals.)
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The only reason why it is so hard for some people to believe that gays can actually be born gay is because of things like the bible. How could it possibly be possible because the bible says "gays are bad" or whatever it freaking says. Well, let me tell you something... I believe the bible also states "Do NOT hate thy neighbor" so the next you are walking around with your bible in your hand telling everyone that gays are bad and all that crap, ask yourself, "What would God think of my hatred?"
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2nd of all, sexual preference means nothing when it comes to what two people will do to each other. Bondage is not normal, but many heterosexual couples engage in it.
Before responding to polls, it would be helpful if you actually educated yourself.
Born This WAY!!
Being gay is part of you that you can’t change, like your eye or hair color, or the type of personality you have. If God is responsible for making your hair brown or blond, for making your friend straight or your best friend a heavy metal fan, then he’s responsible for making you gay. Sexuality isn’t a choice, so it’s either down to biology or God; neither case should leave you ever having to feel dirty or ashamed of who you are. We are all born with certain unchangeable qualities, and we have to make the best of them.
Some people have pets who try to mate with pets of the same sex; I have seen a gay cow bothering other male cows in a field! Animals don’t burden themselves with crap about going to hell - they follow their pure instinct that is programmed into them or bestowed upon them in their design by God. Maybe we can learn something from their purity.
If you read anything negative about being gay in old books (or even editions of The Bible) remember that the book is written by men, translated by men, edited and altered by men over thousands of years. Men who were strictly religion, men who don’t have the modern outlook we have now. Think what the bible would be like if it was re-written by God tomorrow; what do you think it would say? I imagine it ...
Being gay is part of you that you can’t change, like your eye or hair color, or the type of personality you have. If God is responsible for making your hair brown or blond, for making your friend straight or your best friend a heavy metal fan, then he’s responsible for making you gay. Sexuality isn’t a choice, so it’s either down to biology or God; neither case should leave you ever having to feel dirty or ashamed of who you are. We are all born with certain unchangeable qualities, and we have to make the best of them.
Some people have pets who try to mate with pets of the same sex; I have seen a gay cow bothering other male cows in a field! Animals don’t burden themselves with crap about going to hell - they follow their pure instinct that is programmed into them or bestowed upon them in their design by God. Maybe we can learn something from their purity.
If you read anything negative about being gay in old books (or even editions of The Bible) remember that the book is written by men, translated by men, edited and altered by men over thousands of years. Men who were strictly religion, men who don’t have the modern outlook we have now. Think what the bible would be like if it was re-written by God tomorrow; what do you think it would say? I imagine it would call for peace between all people, no matter what their sexual orientation and other background details.
Being a gay person isn’t God’s bad joke; it’s just part of life. Enjoy who you are: love who you want, be happy, share with people. There’s nothing evil about these things. There is far greater evil in the minds of religious people who scare others into repressed and lonely lives by telling them horror stories about hell. If there is a hell, you can be sure it is reserved for the real evil doers of this world - not for those who just happen to find love and happiness with members of their own sex.
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24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another °; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such thing...
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another °; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Even if you say you don't believe, The truth about the sin of homosexuality is real. And judgement will be upon our nation if we allow this sin that corrupts our thoughts and eventually our community and nation. We cannot allow our nation to be under God's wrath for the sins that we tolerate for the sake of superficial freedom. True freedom is freedom from the curse of sin that enslave us all. We all have hope of salvation because of the sacrifice that God's Son Jesus already has paid for our sins. All we need is repent and change our ways, believe in His Son, accept His salvation and follow Him!. We cannot believe the lie that Satan tells us that homosexuality is genetic and we cannot change. We can change if we believe in His Son Jesus. He created us, why can't he change us if we ask Him? Nothing is impossible with God. God's wrath is real too because He will surely punish sin with eternal punishment So what is it/ your temporary lust and pleasures and eventual sickness from its consequence or save yourself from eternal misery! Fools don't believe but the truth stays forever and the truth shall shall set you free!
Romans 1:26-2:1
I Corinthians 6:9-11
I Timothy 1:10
All three references about sexual deviance are found in the writings of Paul. These passages have always been difficult to translate and even more difficult to interpret because there are no clear English equivalents into which the key Greek words can be translated. The most exhaustive study of the issues involved was published by author Robin Scroggs in his book The New Testament and Homosexuality published in 1983.
In his study, Scroggs takes us into the Jewish and Greek worlds of Paul's day. He researched the sexual practices and the issues of morality of that day as reflected in literature extant from that day. He found no indication of interest in same-sex sexual relationships between consenting adults. What he did find was the widespread practice of pederasty. In its usual form pederasty was a form of prostitution in which young boys were used sexually by heterosexual males. Devout Jews and Christians were understandable critical of this practice found widely among the Greeks. It is in this context that the words and expressions used by Paul are found in other literature o the same period.
It is Scroggs' argument that the three references from Paul which we have cited are not commentaries about homosexuality ...
Romans 1:26-2:1
I Corinthians 6:9-11
I Timothy 1:10
All three references about sexual deviance are found in the writings of Paul. These passages have always been difficult to translate and even more difficult to interpret because there are no clear English equivalents into which the key Greek words can be translated. The most exhaustive study of the issues involved was published by author Robin Scroggs in his book The New Testament and Homosexuality published in 1983.
In his study, Scroggs takes us into the Jewish and Greek worlds of Paul's day. He researched the sexual practices and the issues of morality of that day as reflected in literature extant from that day. He found no indication of interest in same-sex sexual relationships between consenting adults. What he did find was the widespread practice of pederasty. In its usual form pederasty was a form of prostitution in which young boys were used sexually by heterosexual males. Devout Jews and Christians were understandable critical of this practice found widely among the Greeks. It is in this context that the words and expressions used by Paul are found in other literature o the same period.
It is Scroggs' argument that the three references from Paul which we have cited are not commentaries about homosexuality in general, but understandable references to the widely known practice of pederasty among the Greeks. Scroggs confronts us with another rule of hermeneutics. He maintains that for moral and ethical passages of the Bible to be applied to today's world, there must be some reasonable similarity between the contexts then and now. In this case the contexts are so dissimilar that the three passages become irrelevant. To make his point even clearer, Scroggs concludes that Paul can be shown to be against only that which he was clearly against.
One further observation is worthy of consider ation. Nowhere in the New Testament is there a discussion of homosexuality or of any homosexual practice. The three New Testament references are part of lists made in the larger contexts of other discussions. Even if the importance of these three passages could be maximized and be shown to be directly relevant to today's discussion, the very incidental nature of the references would relegate them to secondary importance.
(reading out of my Bible NIV)
Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13
"Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable"
"If a man lies with a man as one lies with a women, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads"
"So there you have it: standard missionary position is right out."
If you believe the OT laws you must believe deuteronomy where it says to "Kill those with a different religion"
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However believing in such laws would only make you bigoted, which makes the actual religion bigoted as well.
In addition, learn how to read. If you did, you would see that I have spent this entire damn poll standing up for homosexuals. Pull your head out of you ass and stop wasting my time.
It says in Leviticus, "A man acting with a man like he would a women in bed, is an abomination"
That is clearly saying that a man sleeping with another man is an abomination to god.
But that doesn't matter anyways, because it wasn't written by god, the people only spoke to god in there own views, the bible is full of contradictions and bullshit, and the old testament laws were revoked anyways by Jesus after he died for our sins and fulfilled the testament.
You should brush up on your bible facts before stating something that is simply not true.
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