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Are Hockey Players Hogging the Ice From Figure Skaters?

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A group of figure-skating girls says hockey-playing boys are stealing their time on the rink -- and they're not going to just sit around on the sidelines.

Members of Figure Skating in Harlem protested the number of peak hours they're allotted at a state ice rink, chanting "Don't hate, let us skate" and holding signs insisting: "Girls Are People Too!!," the New York Daily News reports.

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The girls get 4.5 of the 14 peak hours available per week at the Riverbank State Park ice rink, state parks officials say. The remaining time goes to wealthy private-school kids from Manhattan and the Bronx and to the coed Riverbank hockey program, which is made up of mostly boys.

The skaters say that's not enough time for them to practice, so they're forced to take a 90-minute subway ride to another rink.

"It's not fair when we have a rink right here in Harlem," Wendy Ngala, 13, told the News.

Dan Keefe, a parks spokesman, said the girls were offered more hours in the morning before school, but they weren't interested.

"They want peak-time hours," he told the News.

Sharon Cohen, executive director of Figure Skating in Harlem, rebutted: "We should not get last priority on ice time," she said. "Why don't [the high school hockey teams] take the morning hours?"

Whose side are you on?

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  • Rocky 2011/03/23 18:59:20 (edited)
    Yes
    Rocky
    +16
    I thought it was a joke the first time I saw a group of boys take over an ice-skating rink with their pucks and clubs...but no..it was an attempt to run the figure skaters off the ice...so THEY could play a game. My daughter was on that ice...and they were extremely aggressive and rude to her and all the rest of the Figure Skaters. What a bunch of punks.

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  • sue 2011/03/24 19:36:40
    Yes
    sue
    It seems like they should be able to figure out a more fair way.
  • Cellar Door 2011/03/24 19:36:26
    Yes
    Cellar Door
    Whoa... I thought the title said "Boys Hogging Ice Cream From Girls"
    xD
  • Arty 2011/03/24 19:20:24
    Yes
    Arty
    i WOULD RATHER WATCH BEAUTIFUL GIRLS FIGURE SKATING
  • Kitty Kat 2011/03/24 19:14:59
    Yes
    Kitty Kat
    The wealthy kids should go to rinks closer to their own homes, and the hockey team shouldn't get all of the time. I think the time should be divided evenly between the two.
  • Ashley S. 2011/03/24 19:04:56
    Yes
    Ashley S.
    What, are guys mostly commenting no?
  • holdenf... Ashley S. 2011/03/24 20:14:27
    holdenferall
    Because we're not use to thing being given to us.
  • Michelle Ashley S. 2011/03/24 21:39:00
    Michelle
    Actually, there are girls voting no. It's not a girls VS boys thing.

    "The remaining time goes to wealthy private-school kids from Manhattan and the Bronx and to the coed Riverbank hockey program"
    If you do the math, you'll find that, assuming there are two hockey teams, it's divided fairly. Assuming there are three, (Manhattan, the Bronx, and the Riverbank program), then the math puts the girls with more than their fair share of time.
  • Ashley S. Michelle 2011/03/24 23:27:13
    Ashley S.
    i know it's just the question seems like a gender against gender thing.
  • holdenferall 2011/03/24 18:41:24
    No
    holdenferall
    If you want a place to figure skate figure out a way to make it as profitable as ice hockey is. You don't draw the crowds they do, deal with it.

    Whatever happened to earning your place?
  • sue holdenf... 2011/03/24 19:35:49 (edited)
    sue
    This is school kids. None of them make money. Nor do the sports teams. All of the parents would come to watch. Not much of anybody else.
  • holdenf... sue 2011/03/24 20:13:40 (edited)
    holdenferall
    Hockey teams certainly do bring in more revenue to these venues. You're assuming I'm talking just ticket sales.
  • sue holdenf... 2011/03/24 20:16:28
    sue
    I'm assuming that there might be tickets and refreshments. Probably the private schools pay a fee to use the public park. Public schools probably use it free. What are you assuming?
  • holdenf... sue 2011/03/24 20:17:06
    holdenferall
    I'm assuming that hockey teams make up a greater portion of the venue's revenue.
  • sue holdenf... 2011/03/24 20:22:52 (edited)
    sue
    Why would you assume that? They may now, because they get way more time. Besides, it sounds like it's practice time they're talking about.
  • holdenf... sue 2011/03/24 20:23:11 (edited)
    holdenferall
    Because it's a logical assumption.

    If you want equal time bring equal revenue. Simple as that.
  • sue holdenf... 2011/03/24 20:29:23
    sue
    It's a public rink. It's public school. They don't bring in money. It's just like girls sports for other things. Girls basketball at younger ages. There is no revenue for girls or boys, but boys get cheerleaders and more time.
  • holdenf... sue 2011/03/24 22:18:19
    holdenferall
    Your reasoning does not make sense. They certainly do bring in revenue. Girl sports will forever be outdone by male ones. Some facts of reality must be accepted. This feminist dogma is ignorant, tiresome, and selective. I'm sick of it.
  • sue holdenf... 2011/03/24 22:39:01
    sue
    Look at the picture of those girls. They are middle school age at most. Middle school sports do not bring in revenue. Most times they don't even serve refreshments and there is no admission fee.

    And since when are public spaces limited to those that bring in money?
  • holdenf... sue 2011/03/24 22:41:13
    holdenferall
    Strange because my middle school always served refreshments and always had admission fees. Also, the boys always drew larger crowds.

    Enough feminist nonsense for one day.
  • sue holdenf... 2011/03/24 22:49:29
    sue
    You can't just dismiss this as feminist nonsense.

    Here are the facts: you have no idea what the attendance is, or if this is even where the competitions are. We are talking about practices. You have no idea whether refreshments are served and how much money they make -- neither do I. However, it is just as likely there is no money made as lots of money made. At my middle school, there were no refreshments, and no admission was charged. Same at my kids' NY public school for sports on school grounds. Any refreshments served there were done by the parents association -- no revenue for the venue.

    Also, as sports go, hockey probably isn't any more popular in NY City than figure skating is.
  • ThePumpkinator 2011/03/24 18:40:30
    No
    ThePumpkinator
    Jeez how is this the hockey players' fault? They have more players so they should get more ice time. The figure skaters should just take the morning hours. And I agree with @gyrog52. There's too many holes in the story. If you just gotta blame someone, blame the rink management.
  • FumbDuck 2011/03/24 18:26:12
    No
    FumbDuck
    No one can actually tell there are not enuff specifics and details and the ones that are given leave a gaping hole in the story. Where is one adult during this?, making a video and observing so they can make this into something that it is not? If those boys paid to use the rink then what is the problem? If they did not pay to use the rink then why are they being allowed to take it over as if they own it? And once again here we are with one of them questions that is black and white and the options to answer it are black and white and there are too many GREY AREAS to this. A bad habit that the person who posts these things seems to have.
  • Ellie 2011/03/24 18:21:37
    No
    Ellie
    I'm sure there is more information behind this, that thee figure skaters aren't telling .
    Everything now-a-days is about making money, right ?
    So I'm guessing that thee hockey teams pay thee rink more money so they get more time .
    Which is fair . Thee rink isn't being sexist, or anything . It's business .
  • earl 2011/03/24 17:49:02
    No
    earl
    cough up the money like the Boy's teams have do, and skate all you want!!!!!
  • ernest debrew 2011/03/24 17:29:41
    Yes
    ernest debrew
    I like that question. I never thought of it.
  • ernest ... ernest ... 2011/03/24 17:30:41
    ernest debrew
    What about this guy?

    guy tooth fairy rock
  • Unique 2011/03/24 17:28:01
    Yes
    Unique
    +1
    i guess so, they should be treated as equals with the boys....shouldn't get whats left of the ice
  • Michelle Unique 2011/03/24 21:41:31
    Michelle
    The article implies that there are at least two, maybe even three, hockey teams sharing the remaining ice time. Assuming there are two teams (which is pretty evident) then the girls do have an equal amount of time. They have 4.5 hours and each of the two boys teams gets 4.75 hours, which is fair. Assuming there are three teams, the girls are getting more than their fair share of ice time.
  • Unique Michelle 2011/03/25 13:45:49
    Unique
    ok then
  • kenan01 2011/03/24 17:24:09 (edited)
    Yes
    kenan01
    +4
    Figure skaters and non-hockey skaters are pushed out because they don't guarantee a number of bucks every day. Hockey rules the ice at every commercial venue, because it pays the bills. Most rinks are happy to have the regular business, because the cost of running a rink is astronomical. Too many rinks are closing their doors. Fair? Depends on what you consider fair. It's a business.
  • MonaDeMark 2011/03/24 17:04:56
    No
    MonaDeMark
    LADIES....do what I did...USE THAT ELBOW.....High Stick...They Stop Hogging after you lay out two or three of them !!
  • Dixienc 2011/03/24 16:44:37
    Yes
    Dixienc
    +1
    Am I the only person that noticed this??????

    "The girls get 4.5 of the 14 peak hours available per week at the Riverbank State Park ice rink, state parks officials say. The remaining time goes to wealthy private-school kids from Manhattan and the Bronx and to the coed Riverbank hockey program, which is made up of mostly boys"

    This rink is in Harlam. Why in the hell do "rich private school brats" from Manhattan need to come to harlam? Why are the kids from the Bronx needing to come to Harlam? If these groups are taking away from people that actually live in Harlam there is something much bigger going on behind the scenes than we can see. And since they are members of Figure Skating of Harlam...it stands to reason that they ARE from Harlam.
  • kenan01 Dixienc 2011/03/24 17:28:31
    kenan01
    +4
    GO ahead and say it, you know you want to.... racisim, there it is. Rich white kids are stealing the poor black girl's ice. No, it is about the rink renting to someone who offers to pay on a regular basis.
  • earl kenan01 2011/03/24 17:52:15
    earl
    +2
    Being from Minnesota I can tell you that conditioned Ice in a indoor rink is very expensive to maintain. This is where money talks!!!
  • Dixienc kenan01 2011/03/25 02:54:34
    Dixienc
    B.S. Only a true racist would see race in what I said. I know that area pretty well. Why don't the kids from Manhattan use the rink closer to them? And by the way.....there are also rich BLACK kids in that private school.
  • earl Dixienc 2011/03/24 17:50:27
    earl
    How many Harlem Hockey players can you name?
  • Dixienc earl 2011/03/25 02:54:49
    Dixienc
    ummmmm None. lol
  • Tombsto... Dixienc 2011/03/24 18:41:58
    TombstoneJim
    Is this a tax payer funded rink? Or is it funded in part by those using the rink? Can the girls club rent more time? Is there a "requirement" that a certain amount of public skating be provided....the questions are numerous.......but, on the surface it looks like a pretty bad deal....
  • holdenf... Dixienc 2011/03/24 18:43:10
    holdenferall
    So in other words, these "rich private school brats" (white kids) are not good enough to skate there?
  • Kitty Kat holdenf... 2011/03/24 19:18:28
    Kitty Kat
    No, but why aren't they going to rinks closer to their homes or schools?
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