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Are Christians supposed to give away all their possessions?

Huki68 2012/08/29 23:32:21

and does that mean that rich Christians in big houses with lots of stuff aren't really Christians?

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  • Jorge Enriquez 2012/09/28 19:43:47
    Jorge Enriquez
    +1
    Nope...
  • Kat ♪ ~BTO-t-BCRA-F~ ♪ 2012/08/30 01:59:39
  • Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥ 2012/08/30 01:23:43
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    +2
    No. But they will be held accountable for how they use their possessions and wealth.
    Jesus said, "Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and all these things will be added unto you."
  • Mark 2012/08/30 00:13:22
    Mark
    +2
    Of course not, but a rich Christian is certainly less of a Christian than a poor Christian. Jesus even said as much when he said that "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven".

    Some say that the rich giving away a lot of money will help them to become saved. This may be true in their religion, but it depends on what that money is going for? After all, there are some charities that are not beneficial to anyone.
  • Huki68 2012/08/30 00:07:08
    Huki68
    They are supposed to give away what materialistic things they do not need.

    Christian and conservatives today apparently feel they need to keep their 100k a year, ever-growing houses, pools, multiple SUVs etc. for themselves, while trying to abolish what pitiful welfare exists
  • 3003573 2012/08/29 23:57:25 (edited)
  • Dagon 2012/08/29 23:57:13
  • bob h. 2012/08/29 23:54:43
    bob h.
    +1
    Depends what flavor. Catholics, no. The rest are pretty much a crap shoot.
  • rand 2012/08/29 23:53:26
    rand
    +1
    My interpretation of His message, and reason, says He did not want everyone to abandon their material. The quote about giving away possessions was to prospective disciples. IF everyone gave away all they had, who'd feed those without? As for the wealthy, there's always "the eye of the needle" and Gates' and Buffett's contributions of billions and billions to philanthropic causes probably have them going through.
  • Huki68 rand 2012/08/30 00:00:07 (edited)
    Huki68
    +1
    1 Timothy 6:17 Command those who are rich in this present age not to be haughty, nor to trust in uncertain riches but in the living God, who gives us richly all things to enjoy. 18 Let them do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to give, willing to share, 19 storing up for themselves a good foundation for the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.

    The command is not to "trust" in riches. Paul doesn't tell rich Christians to give everything away, just to be ready to make the resources God has placed in their care available to others who are in need.
  • rand Huki68 2012/08/30 00:11:50
    rand
    +1
    I don't disagree and am left wondering if you took time to read what I wrote. I do not subscribe to scripture absolutely but I agree with what you've quoted and written.
  • Huki68 rand 2012/08/30 00:18:25
    Huki68
    +1
    I know rand.... I don't disagree with you eather
  • 3003573 2012/08/29 23:48:55 (edited)
  • Brother Bo 2012/08/29 23:44:40
    Brother Bo
    +2
    What a ridiculous premise... Jesus said that the poor will always be with us. He never said you should be one of them.
  • 3003573 Brother Bo 2012/08/29 23:59:15
  • Brother Bo 3003573 2012/08/30 00:46:41 (edited)
    Brother Bo
    Sucks to be you. NO WHERE in the Bible did God or Jesus tell anyone to live in poverty. God wants us to live life more abundantly. (John 10:10) Those who live in poverty, on purpose, are defying God's desire for them. The rich man Jesus told to sell all he had and give to the poor in Matthew 19:21, was a man who cherished his money more than his soul. Jesus never expected the man to do as he advised, because he knew that he wouldn't.
  • 3003573 Brother Bo 2012/08/30 01:15:18
  • Huki68 3003573 2012/08/30 04:23:00
    Huki68
    I do understand you
  • Brother Bo 3003573 2012/08/31 17:52:41
    Brother Bo
    Sorry. I missed the part where Jesus told him to live in poverty, in fact I don't see that in any of the scriptures you mentioned. This wasn't a command to live in poverty, it was a lesson about sacrifice and helping your fellow man. try this scripture:

    Luke 5:38. Give and it shall be given unto you; in good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over, shall men give unto your bosom. For the same measure that ye meet withal it shall be measured to you again.

    Why would God give us instructions on how to gain abundance if He wants us to live in poverty? Living in poverty is not a condition that is in keeping with the Word of God.

    Job 36:11. If they will obey and serve Him, they shall spend their days in prosperity, and their years in pleasure.

    Prosperity isn't the same as poverty.
  • 3003573 Brother Bo 2012/09/04 23:33:43
  • Huki68 Brother Bo 2012/08/30 04:29:31
    Huki68
    Yes He did expect for all of us to follow Him, he just give us our own will to trust in Him. nowadays people seek possessions instead of helping others, those many others doesn't have a choice they are under a thumb of someone more powerful than they are. we are just greedy period, it will never be enough, we always want more and more. sad but true but at the end will go to the same place, none will scape from death no matter how much money they have.
  • Huki68 Brother Bo 2012/08/30 00:01:34
    Huki68
    The command is not to "trust" in riches. Paul doesn't tell rich Christians to give everything away, just to be ready to make the resources God has placed in their care available to others who are in need.
  • Brother Bo Brother Bo 2012/08/30 00:32:40
    Brother Bo
    +1
    The Good Samaritan could not have been able to help his fellow man if he had no posessions or money.
  • Huki68 Brother Bo 2012/08/30 00:37:38 (edited)
    Huki68
    You are missing the point here...

    They are supposed to give away what materialistic things they do not need.

    Meaning that the Samaritan have enough money lelf that he didn't need to take care of the fellow Brother
  • JMCC 2012/08/29 23:40:52
    JMCC
    +2
    It is optional, although Jesus was quite specific when he said "it is harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven than a camel to pass through the eye of a needle".

    There are some branches of Christianity that believe in austerity and modesty in all things - including profit... (Amish, Puritans etc.)

    Some believe in a sort of social profit sharing in business like the Quakers.

    The Church has been divided on this subject for a very long time and it continues to be a bone of contention for some, and a scholarly debate for others.
  • sjalan 2012/08/29 23:36:20
    sjalan
    +1
    Jesus used it literally. Today it is an instruction to put the teaching of God's word first above all other considerations.
  • Huki68 sjalan 2012/08/29 23:39:59
    Huki68
    Jesus said to a rich man....
    "One thing you lack: Go your way, sell whatever you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, take up the cross, and follow Me." 22 But he was sad at this word, and went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.
  • sjalan Huki68 2012/08/29 23:44:39
    sjalan
    +1
    Jesus was telling the man that he was not really rich in the things that were important. He had material riches of the earth, NOT spiritual riches of faith in God. The Net is that to please God you must be able ot humble yourself with what is required to live, and apply all other activities to do the word of God.
  • Huki68 sjalan 2012/08/29 23:53:29
    Huki68
    +1
    Exactly....Jesus knew that this man's wealth was like an idol in his life and that it would keep him from trusting in and serving God.
  • sjalan Huki68 2012/08/30 02:08:09
    sjalan
    +1
    You got it right.
  • Gone Away 2012/08/29 23:36:18
    Gone Away
    +3
    IMHO...There's a BIG difference between Christians & what Jesus had in mind!
  • Huki68 Gone Away 2012/08/29 23:39:54
    Huki68
    +1
    Jesus said to a rich man....
    "One thing you lack: Go your way, sell whatever you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, take up the cross, and follow Me." 22 But he was sad at this word, and went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.
  • Vicereine Killbride 2012/08/29 23:36:00
    Vicereine Killbride
    +1
    Not all of them, but you aren't supposed to be greedy. And give to the poor.
  • Huki68 Vicerei... 2012/08/29 23:39:49
    Huki68
    Jesus said to a rich man....
    "One thing you lack: Go your way, sell whatever you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, take up the cross, and follow Me." 22 But he was sad at this word, and went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.
  • Vicerei... Huki68 2012/08/29 23:42:12
    Vicereine Killbride
    +2
    Okay. Jesus was right. Make someone else's day. If I wasn't so poor that I might not even survive this month, I would give too.
  • 666_Maggots~I'm a female! 2012/08/29 23:35:34
    666_Maggots~I'm a female!
    +3
    No. They earned it, they should keep it. The only thing I remember a Christian was supposed to do was tithe, but that is like only 10%.
  • Huki68 666_Mag... 2012/08/29 23:38:54
    Huki68
    +1
    Jesus said to a rich man....
    "One thing you lack: Go your way, sell whatever you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, take up the cross, and follow Me." 22 But he was sad at this word, and went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.
  • CCRNRT 666_Mag... 2012/08/30 00:05:13
    CCRNRT
    +3
    yes, that is right
  • Huki68 666_Mag... 2012/08/30 00:06:47
    Huki68
    +1
    They are supposed to give away what materialistic things they do not need.

    Christian and conservatives today apparently feel they need to keep their 100k a year, ever-growing houses, pools, multiple SUVs etc. for themselves, while trying to abolish what pitiful welfare exists
  • Clay Sl... 666_Mag... 2012/08/30 14:10:23
    Clay Slayer
    +2
    Yep! and the dude that thought that scheme up was pretty smart... God told me yesterday that it was appointing me one of his tithing collectors.. He wants me to get 10% of everything of people I know and store it up for him>> Better start now,, or you will burn in hell... LMAO

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