Americans on No-Fly List Allowed to Learn to Fly: Is the TSA Doing Enough to Ensure Safety of Americans?

by mrosen814 Posted 2012/07/19 19:00:00

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Americans who aren't able to board commercial planes because of their "no-fly" status are now allowed to enroll in pilot training. According to AJC.com, "The security loophole was raised during a hearing Wednesday to examine the Homeland Security Department's programs to screen foreigners who want to attend flight schools in the U.S. Some of the 9/11 hijackers were able to learn to fly in the U.S. while living in the country illegally."

If an American is not allowed to board a commercial airliner, should they be allowed to learn to fly? More so, is the TSA doing enough to ensure the safety of the American public?

AJC.COM reports:
U.S. citizens who are on the government's list of people banned from flying because they're considered terror threats are not prevented from learning how to fly in schools around the country, according to government regulations.

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Vision of Verve 2012/07/18 22:40:33

No

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Greg 2012/07/27 14:54:04

No

And they never can so they should stop wasting our tax dollars doing nothing and stop harassing law abiding citizens.

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Danielle 2012/07/20 21:50:23

No

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Unbelievable! I honestly think some in our government must want us all dead....

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D.C.Verdone 2012/07/20 20:24:39

No

This can happen but you stopped a man with a 13in dick from boarding because it was a "biological threat." Seriously?

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thy-lady-x 2012/07/20 17:23:30

No

People on the 'no fly' list should not be able to learn to fly at all. they can just as easily, if not easier, fly a non commercial/private/ cargo plane into a building as a commercial one.

TSA has only ever offered the illusion of security, not real security, and I have thought that from the very beginning. What good does it do to protect the airports when anyone who wants to can fly to Mexico and hop the border? We all know how easy that is. Fricking Mexico has more than an armies worth of people here illegally.

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RayG 2012/07/20 17:21:02

No

TSA is now Totally Stupid Asses (TSA)

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Earl Hickey 2012/07/20 17:20:45 (edited)

No

They are a bunch of bullies on a power trip. They strip search 80 year old grannies and spill the ashes of dead people, taunt deaf people and take apples from them under false pretenses and eat said apples in front of them, but forget to turn on metal detectors and do other retarded stuff that makes airport security a freaking joke. they trample all over our constitutional rights and mock us at every opportunity,

I would send those thugs packing because they are useless d-bags. we need real professionals and not those clowns/thugs

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iamco2000 2012/07/20 17:00:21

No

...have they ever done anything beyond harass old ladies, levy civil suits against those unwilling to deal with their harassment or needlessly overstretch their perceived power to abuse people? The entire department is nothing more than a sapping of American tax payers money. They did nothing to solve or prevent the problem in the first place and have continued to do nothing to prevent any serious threats since while doing plenty to take in undeserved compensation for "protection" from a false-threat and false-enemy.

Grace to you, Glory to God!

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edifyguy 2012/07/20 15:55:08

Yes

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The TSA shouldn't even exist. It is an anti-Constitutional body that exists solely to see how much tyranny people will tolerate. It is desensitizing people to total government control, and that was its only purpose.

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John T. 2012/07/20 15:51:58

Yes

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There have been too many cases where inappropriate and unnecessary searches and confection food and drinks. People with legitimate health related conditions panelized, humiliated and discriminated against by abusive security agencies. The only excuse given by these minimum wage security people have been that they should have declared their medical related conditions beforehand. The last time I was in an airport, there were NO signs posted as to the fact that conditions should be declared prior to boarding or even ware to do this. They completely ignore any identification or letters of explanation provide by health officials. If you require a external medical related device or have had a joint replacement you are to present a card identifying the abnormality and its location. This is about as effective as a blank index card. Serious changes need to be maid and soon.

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Kozmo 2012/07/20 15:26:48

Yes

Is this a rhetorical question? Ask Homeland Insecurity.

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Wahvlvke 2012/07/20 14:00:20

No

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The TSA is a collection of overpaid public service union idiots who have done nothing for our safety. They only contribute to wasteful spending of tax money.

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jmc07806-PWCM-JLA 2012/07/20 13:55:18

No

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It is the politically correct problem that is making us unsafe as well as political involvement.

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S. Gompers 2012/07/20 10:57:29

No

But this is America, so it is all about the money.

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emoanimegirl1000 2012/07/20 09:00:28

No

I sometimes just dont understand the TSA....

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strawberry 2012/07/20 08:39:47

No

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TSA is a waste of money which should be disbanded. Some of TSA employees are more abusive or annoying to average Americans. It is near impossible for Homeland Security Department's program to screen so many foreigners. They cannot keep track of millions going in and out of U.S. airports or their real intentions.

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WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB 2012/07/20 07:33:29

No

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Badly worded and conceived "poll".
TSA has nothing to do with the safety of the "American public". It's sole function is the control of the "American public", nothing more.

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cnsharp 2012/07/20 05:23:21

No

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They were put on the no fly list for a reason they should not be able to fly pilot or passenger.

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Bradley to cnsharp 2013/03/20 00:22:34

+3
Face palm

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Flamingolady 2012/07/20 03:49:00

No

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Jo 2012/07/20 03:42:36

No

well, of course not! every single solitary move they make in the direction of beefing up security gets them accused of "molestation" and "groping" and "taking away our rights".......etc, etc. these people have got a lot of nerve, I'll say that. you want TSA to do a better job? then shut the hell up and let them do it.

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KingdomNow 2012/07/20 03:31:50

No

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That's what happens when the government hires people that nobody else would think of hiring.

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Rachel Searvogel 2012/07/20 01:38:14

Yes

Doing /more/ than necessary. Of course, I'll change my tune when a terrorist gets on my plane, but until then it feels excessive to me.

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jere.chievres 2012/07/20 01:28:06

No

And they act like prison guards to boot.

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Michelle 2012/07/20 01:23:49

Yes

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My yes is to the concept of a person on the no-fly list being allowed to learn to fly. The hing about the no-fly list is that they are not allowed to board a commercial aircraft for flight in or out of the United States. So they could legally fly outside of the US once licensed, or fly non-commercial crafts. Either way, whether they know how to fly or not, they are not able to board a commercial flight and use it to terrorize the US and they would (theoretically) be able to board and hijack a non-commercial aircraft. While, by definition, commercial aircraft make up most modern flight, there are a few exceptions. The no-fly list currently has 400,000 names on it (according to Wikipedia). Do you really think everyone on this list is a terrorist waiting to strike?

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Kat 2012/07/20 00:28:33 (edited)

No

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No but we also need protected from the TSA. They are more dangerous to American travelers than terrorists. I guess this is further proof. They'll frisk elderly people, grope your children because they are so concerned about safety, but they let people that aren't allowed to fly commercially learn to fly. What part of 9-11 did they miss? They need to be disbanded.

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Kat to Kat 2012/07/20 00:43:32

+2
Funny, in a sick sort of way.

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jere.ch... to Kat 2012/07/20 01:31:51 (edited)

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Which is why I refuse to fly anywhere these days, as I have flown at least 200 times anyway and don't fell the need.

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Kat to jere.ch... 2012/07/20 01:33:04

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It's not worth the hassle, I think that's why they do it.

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Skar 2012/07/19 23:54:46

Yes

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The no fly list is a joke, they put some people on it for no reason and other's who have the same name as someone on it are sometimes affected by it as well.

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Walter Harris 2012/07/19 23:34:06

No

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the gov. is stupid and will always leave loopholes for people to go through

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nate 2012/07/19 22:27:36

No

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If you aren't allowed to fly on a commercial aircraft, then you shoudn't be allowed to fly a general aviation aircraft either.

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Kigan 2012/07/19 22:16:23

No

+3
All they ever accomplish is more and more groping and fondling.

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Tony 2012/07/19 21:34:48

No

+5
This American Gestapo is a joke and needs to be disbanded immediately.

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gunner 2012/07/19 21:33:11

No

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I`m lobbying for strip and cavity searches of everyone. That`ll make me feel safe. But, only if i get to do the searchin myself. I`d make a great tsa guy right?

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Titanium X 2012/07/19 21:28:09

No

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They are absurdly incompetent.

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bob h. 2012/07/19 21:23:27

Yes

+2
Bush used to put people that he didn't like on the "no-fly" list. Him and his gestapo groups are all a waste.

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gunner to bob h. 2012/07/19 21:34:42

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Thanks, I needed confirmation, it`s all Bush`s fault.

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jere.ch... to bob h. 2012/07/20 01:33:44
RayG to jere.ch... 2012/07/20 17:24:26

I see Boob (oops Bob) is still sucking down air and polluting the atmosphere with his brainless liberal pap

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Bradley to RayG 2013/03/20 01:42:11

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It's not about liberal or conservative. Morons.

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