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American Psychological Association revises 'gay gene' theory!

Charlie Butts - OneNewsNow - 5/14/2009 6:30:00 AM

The attempt to prove that homosexuality is determined biologically has been dealt a knockout punch. An American Psychological Association publication includes an admission that there's no homosexual 'gene' -- meaning it's not likely that homosexuals are born that way.

For decades, the APA has not considered homosexuality a psychological disorder, while other professionals in the field consider it to be a "gender-identity" problem. But the new statement, which appears in a brochure called "Answers to Your Questions for a Better Understanding of Sexual Orientation & Homosexuality," states the following:

"There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles...."

That contrasts with the APA's statement in 1998: "There is considerable recent evidence to suggest that biology, including genetic or inborn hormonal factors, play a significant role in a person's sexuality." Peter LaBarbera, who heads Americans for Truth About Homosexuality, believes the more recent statement is an important admission because it undermines a popular theory.

"People need to understand that the 'gay gene' theory has been one of the biggest propaganda boons of the homosexual movement over the last 10 [or] 15 years," he points out. "Studies show that if people think that people are born homosexual they're much less likely to resist the gay agenda."

Matt Barber with Liberty Counsel feels the pronouncement may have something to do with saving face. "Well, I think here the American Psychological Association is finally trying to restore some credibility that they've lost over the years by having become a clearly political organization as opposed to an objective, scientific organization," he states.

With the new information from the APA, Barber wonders if the organization will admit that homosexuals who want to change can change.

I have never been a believer that homosexuals were born that way. I have always considered it a matter of choice. When gays say that they were born that way I believe they are looking for a way to justify their abnormal behavior. I don't hate gays or anything like that, but I don't like ANYONE using lame and unproven psycological theories to make their own uncontrollable lust more members of the same sex seem more acceptable and "normal."

Article: http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=528376

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Brochure: http://www.apa.org/topics/sorientation.html#whatcauses
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  • +25 Angel May 24, 2009 01:51:59
    Angel
    I am so glad they have proven this., It would be nice if it stopped some mouths but, they will still say they were born that way , what else are they going to use as a means to justify the act.... I don't hate gays but I don't agree with the life style..
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  • Cindy June 01, 2009 04:34:22 (edited)
    Cindy
    this is not a real blow-
    the idea of a gene to be found has been written off long ago, and by the gay community...who all think may never be found.
    God may have wanted that way - who REALLY knows - I mean, it is one of the last great civil rights issues, and maybe God would like to think BY THIS TIME we should know how to treat others (as we would like to be treated), etc.
    What I and many have suggested for the last 15 years is (with the APA's) that homosexuality is simply another human characteristic; such as being left handed (no gene for that) or the fact that eyes have to have color (although the parental genes will determine WHAT color)...
    And, pressure to change, backed by buku money from donating Christians to fight God's gay children from the far right on the APA's has been HUMUNGUS the past 8 years.

    No - another diverse and complicated mystery of a small group in every society for eons of time, who, at least under the guarantees of Constitutional freedoms of the United States of America should have equality as others do to marry "the person" they love. Sad other countries have seen this long before us.
  • +1
    America... Cindy June 01, 2009 05:19:08
    American BadAss ~ In Your Face!
    Romans 1:26 & 27; For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

    It's pretty obvious that God considers homosexuality to be sin - immorality. I live in another kind of sin, but at least I'm honest about it!
  • +2
    IndyLinda May 28, 2009 12:59:33
    IndyLinda
    Not all gays believe in the "born queer" theory. It's in a class with all the other "I was born this way" excuses manufactured over the past twenty years to eliminate personal responsibility for choices, and to take the heat off parents who feel guilty for their offspring. Just listen to the parents of the kids Dxed with ADD and ADHD. The "diagnosis" becomes the "reason" their ill-behaved children act that way.
  • +2
    America... IndyLinda May 28, 2009 14:21:51
    American BadAss ~ In Your Face!
    Great comment. Thank you!
  • +1
    Spizzzo May 27, 2009 04:59:25
    Spizzzo
    The APA's position is good: nicely nuanced and well-supported by research.

    Any attempt to extend the position to imply that Homosexuality is "merely a choice" or "can be changed at will" is moving FAR beyond what the APA said and into unsupported territory.
  • +2
    mm853 May 27, 2009 04:24:21 (edited)
    mm853
    I have to say, personally, I never liked (or used) the argument that Gay people should get equal rights because of some kind of "Gay gene". I think it is weak.

    The argument suggests some minorities are "valid" (where you don't have a choice) and another kind is "invalid" (where you do). The logic suggests that "valid" minorities have some kind of flaw or fault, but they can't help it. That is not right, it is smelly logic.

    Do we tolerate black people because they can't help being black -- because it is "not their fault"? Ridiculous. We tolerate them because being a member of a minority is not a fault at all. We welcome people, black or white because at a fundamental place where people contribute and join society, they are the same. What if black people could choose to be white? What if someone discovered a pill they could take? Would we make them take it? No! Being black is a part of who they are.

    Well, being gay is a part of who I am. It wouldn't matter to me if I could change it. I am as valuable a person as anyone else.
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    America... mm853 May 27, 2009 05:10:27
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    I agree with you. I think people are valuable regardless of what their sexual orientation is. I want to thank you for providing what I think is the BEST response so far to this poll. My motive for posting it was not to incite anger or hatred against gays, but to simply state that the APA has somewhat retracted and earlier statement that claimed homosexuality was genetic. I have gotten criticism even from people that I consider to be friends, anger, name calling, even outright hatred. I don't hate gays and never will. We are all individuals and in the end we leave this earthly plane as individuals. I don't like anyone using lame excuses of any kind for why they're the way they are. You are one of the most honest people that have responded, if not THE most honest!!!!

    "Well, being gay is a part of who I am. It wouldn't matter to me if I could change it. I am as valuable a person as anyone else." I don't know if this is a new post, or if you just edited an old one, but I give you props for being honest and stating your case so clearly. You see, I don't care personally about a person's sexuality if they are honest about it and not trying to MAKE me accept homosexuality as being normal. I don't think it is normal, and I seriously doubt that I ever will. But instead of attacking me or spewing ...''''''
    I agree with you. I think people are valuable regardless of what their sexual orientation is. I want to thank you for providing what I think is the BEST response so far to this poll. My motive for posting it was not to incite anger or hatred against gays, but to simply state that the APA has somewhat retracted and earlier statement that claimed homosexuality was genetic. I have gotten criticism even from people that I consider to be friends, anger, name calling, even outright hatred. I don't hate gays and never will. We are all individuals and in the end we leave this earthly plane as individuals. I don't like anyone using lame excuses of any kind for why they're the way they are. You are one of the most honest people that have responded, if not THE most honest!!!!

    "Well, being gay is a part of who I am. It wouldn't matter to me if I could change it. I am as valuable a person as anyone else." I don't know if this is a new post, or if you just edited an old one, but I give you props for being honest and stating your case so clearly. You see, I don't care personally about a person's sexuality if they are honest about it and not trying to MAKE me accept homosexuality as being normal. I don't think it is normal, and I seriously doubt that I ever will. But instead of attacking me or spewing hatred in my direction, you simply state your worth and value as a human being, and you are absolutely right. Being gay doesn't make you any less valuable than anyone else! For what you said in this above post I respect you a great deal and would stand by your side and defend your right to be who you are. If every gay I ever encountered were as peaceful and respectful as you are in this post your cause would be well served, and you might be able to win more support for your battle for gay marriage! I never thought I would say anything like that!

    I have to admit that I am an asshole, but not as big an asshole as everyone seems to think. Now I'm going to read back through your posts and see if you are consistently moderate as you seem to be here. You should change you name to 'BadAss Homosexual' or 'Gay BadAss' or something. I mean that in kind terms. Good post!!!
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  • +1
    mm853 America... May 27, 2009 11:49:40
    mm853
    Thanks. Coming from you, this is high praise! I have always felt this way, and I have said similar things before, but that is not a copy of another post.

    And you are scaring me -- reading through my posts! I guarantee you will find some of them aren't reasonable at all. LOL!! Sometimes, I get pretty angry. -- And you are a tough debater.

    But seriously, I appreciate your question, and I appreciate that you don't block people when you disagree with them.
  • +1
    flaca May 26, 2009 05:44:23
    flaca
    I don't think the jury is out on this subject yet. I know that brain mapping shows differences in gays and heteros, so how does that fit in with this? I'm going to wait a few years for more concrete information.
  • +1
    1088799 May 26, 2009 04:47:18 (edited)
    1088799
    I'm completely shocked with myself, but I gotta go with what my man Dan (trademark) said. This "information" you posted in no way justifies any discrimination against homosexuals in the past, present, or future.

    Spelling eddit.
  • +1
    MickeyRenee~ May 26, 2009 03:59:37
    MickeyRenee~
    I've never really thought that there is a gay 'gene' BUT I do believe that being gay is not a choice but how a person is. People love who they love and attracted to who they're attracted to. I'm a woman who's attracted to tall dark-haired men.. preferably with green eyes..but blue eyes are good.. :) I don't think I have a 'gene' that dictates that but I just AM
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    right this time May 26, 2009 03:54:40
    right this time
    It is always difficult for the average layman to know the implications of scientific research. Discover magazine did an article about this a couple of years ago. There was never a real scientific emphasis on a single gene as the article stated at the time. On the other hand there is mounting evidence that it is hereditary. Discover magazine reported that the more sexually repressed a society is the higher the percentage of the homosexual community. This is counter-intuitive but scientifically sound. The complex hereditary and environmental factors at work are more likely passed on by gays attempting to be straight, increasing the likelihood of a larger homosexual population. To simply say it is choice is a total misrepresentation of what the scientific community has concluded. Judging from the most popular comment it would appear that people are letting their preconceived bias distort what the scientists are saying.
  • +1
    Spizzzo right t... May 27, 2009 02:58:07
    Spizzzo
    Here! Here! While my scientific/psychological training is 15+ years out of date, these were my feelings (those you report and the article above about the APA). I'm happy to have them supported (thus far--in science, it's ALWAYS "thus far").
  • +3
    Jen-Jen May 26, 2009 03:39:40
    Jen-Jen
    It's about time
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    Sonomorte ~♥ loves Steph ♥ May 26, 2009 03:35:28
    Sonomorte ~♥ loves Steph ♥
    I ask you, please, what kind of imbecilic moron would question such a thing? What kind of moron would look only at one species and consider, given a societal norm, that homosexuality is not natural? Really, need I remind you that we are a species, like many others on the planet, supposedly created by "God"? Are we not unlike the lion? the flamingo, the Chimp? the Guinea pig? All of which have been studied and have shown that homosexuality is an "uncommon factor" but a factor none the less?

    I'll answer these questions for you... A bigoted self righteous nut case who worships a zombie...

    Any questions?
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    America... Sonomor... May 26, 2009 04:12:17
    American BadAss ~ In Your Face!
    I don't worship anyone, zombie or otherwise. You are quick to judge. You start you rant by calling me a moron. If you did that to my face you would need a doctor, because I would literally crack your fucking jaw! You end by calling me a bigoted self-righteous nut case. What's your problem; no one is supposed to think differently than you. People like you call others names without realizing that you're showing just how narrow-minded and judgmental you really are. OC MF's are a bunch of pussy lames that can't survive in the big IE!!!!! Fuck off, punk!
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    Sonomor... America... May 26, 2009 04:25:22
    Sonomorte ~♥ loves Steph ♥
    Oh, see punk, now you brought in physical threats... Bad fucking idea, and you see me as a kitty cat, and thus your stupidity, may be overloading your narrow ass.

    No, really, from my softer side, you are ignorant enough to take the word of Psychologists words on genetic science? Really?

    Careful how you paint my town friend... you may have an issue... come visit, we'll show you a damn good time.
  • +8 / -1
    Adam May 25, 2009 17:53:41
    Adam
    What a mischaracterization. Sorry, homosexuality is inborn. Referring to it as Genetic is a wrong oversimplification done by the lazy. The Science has been overwhelmingly supportive of womb conditions and other pre-natal factors, NOT genetics. In expression, manifestation, and acceptance of homosexuality, yes, enviornment plays a part. But that they acknowledge a strong nature components shows quite clearly that the inborn leaning towards sexuality comes FIRST. To imply that this says that gays choose there lifestyle is nothing more then transparent lying with statistics, without the effort of at least useing numbers.
  • +2
    America... Adam May 25, 2009 18:29:29
    American BadAss ~ In Your Face!
    The other option would be that you are WRONG! Is that some kind of impossibility?
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    Adam America... May 25, 2009 21:29:35
    Adam
    Hardly. I'm wrong all the time. But the evidence is, by far, in favor of my side, and my side of the debate is far, far more likely to be right. I have the evidence, but remain open minded to new data. Most people on the, "Choose to be that way" side of the debate have no evidence, but there positive because if they were right, it would serve there personal agenda.
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