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Agruments for Same-Sex Marriage

peaches 2012/05/28 23:59:37
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This are quotes or paraphrased from the Historical Guide to Controversal Issues in America: Same-sex marriage. Agree with them or not, here they are. I just wanted to list the many of them verses the few illogical arguments that I have seen against Same-Sex marriages (:

1. There are more than 1,049 benefits from being legally married that homosexuals are deprived of.
2. They're deprived of the social view from society (such as employers) who look at those who are married with higher respect and trust.
3. The public commitment made that's sealed by vows and rites that civil unions cannot give.
4. Some would agrue that the pursuit of happiness that the constitution gives would include marriage, therefore, homosexuals are indeed discriminated against in that sense.
5. They are denied the love and commitment to their partner that is given and confirmed in a marriage, which to some people, may dictate if their relationship will last.
6. Society can promote secure, permanent relationships with marriage. For example, "Married couples are more productive, and the general economy benefits. Marital partners provide for one another, putting less strain on sociel services. They eat better and have better general health, and this means that they make fewer demands on an already overburdened health care system. Regular partners are less likely to have STDs, engage in risky sexual behavior, or allow problems resulting from any lapses to go unchecked. These facts are supported by numerious sociological studies." Therefore, if we exclude a group of people from these benefits, societies' image of relationships may not be as good, and it also, of course, may help the homosexual couple's relationship.
7. Valid marriage can exist between two people of different races, ages, religions, and ethnic groups. Some of which religions have prohibited in the past. Just homosexuals are being discriminated against now.
8. People may divorce. People such as criminals (murderers, rapists, child molesters, and sex offenders) are allowed to marry even though they have committed sins in the eyes of the religious (and non-religious of course).
9. Britney Spears may have a 24 hour marriage. Elizabeth Taylor may walk down the aisle 8 times. But yet, a committed homosexual couple would "ruin" the santity of marriage.
10. "...Marriage in history had never conformed neatly to any particular pattern. It is a culturally determined style of living that has been malleable to the needs of many different people and periods of history." Therefore, there will be no redefinition of marriage, as it has always been changing to comodate different people.
11. People fear that same-sex marriages will lead to marriages of several people, relatives, animals, and objects. BUT "Each change in marriage custom and law must first meet appropriate, even stringent tests. It is right that we are currently having this intense discussion of same-sex marriage, because established institutions must not be lightly changed upon the whims of the year or the decade. Society must answer a number of questions responsibly before it approves any innovation, especially in an area as basic as matrimony. Several questions myst be answered positively. Will a change in custom and law promote state interests? Will it contribute to the health and happiness of the people involved? Is a contract such as marriage being made between two people who are legally capable of discernment, emotionally, and intellectually able to commit such a contract?" And I do believe that those answer are no (:
12. "Opponents of same-sex marriage find it difficult or impossible to dignify with the name of marriage a relationship that appears to them a violation of human physiology... The agruments against homosexuality oversimplify human anatomy, ignore the complexity of human beings, and reject the witness of history. A substantial number of individuals have always been sexually attracted to their own gender. Furthermore, same-sex conduct has been documentsed in several animal species...To suggest that the human body is not designed for such activity is to deny the reality that it has always been so used... Most homosexuals today do not find their inclinations and intimate expressions either "unnatural" or "immoral"."
13. The agrument against the "homosexuals have the choice" agrument... "Many (homosexuals) insist that had they been given a choice, they would have chosen to be more like the general population. But the choice was not theirs; it was bestowed by Mother Nature, or, for the more religiously inclines, by God. From early childhood these people have known that they were different. This difference, rather than an aberration of nature, is a central fact of their identity, possibly to be celebrated rather than hidden. While sexual conduct is under the control of will, homosexuality as an orientation is not a matter of choice."
14. There may be a specific role for homosexuals, such as to prevent overpopulation (and let's admit it, we, as the human species, are WAY overpopulated. It happened on the island of ancient Crete where there was a rise in homosexuality as a natural corrective in the overpopulation there. This has also been observed in primates. This, again, disputes the argument that homosexuality is bot natural and that they have a choice. And if they do not have a choice, they should have the basic right of marriage.
15. "Marriages exist to bring children comfortably into the world, to nourish them, and to prepare them for useful and fulfilling lives in families of their own, in churches, and in nations... Gay couples cannot concieve children, but they are indeed rearing chldren. In fact, in the last 15 years there has been a population boom in the gay community. Approximately 1/3 of householding headed by a gay couple now have children in them, children born from previous heterosexual relationships or adopted or acquired through artificial insemination of surrogacy. These children are much desired, because parents have either fought in the courts for their custody or gone to extraordinary lengths to bring them into the world. And unlike so many American children who grow up in single-parent homes, these are attended by two loving parents. They are especially cherishes because gays do not generally give birth to children lightl and without forethought, as straight couples sometimes do. Gay parents often go to considerable expense and surmount legal hurdles to have these chidlren and give them a locing home. And there is no clear evidence in the psychological or education literature that these children as disadvantaged by the alternative sexual orientation of their parents. There may, in fact, be some benefits in being reared by gay parents. Some studies have suggested that these children are elss judgmental and mor tolerant of differences among their playmates..." So basically, "... gays are doing their share in rearing citizens of tomorrow, and often performing th e task superbly; at the same time, they are not irresponsibly begetting children."
16. Within Judaism and Christianity, there are many pro-gay voices. Such as Rabii Steven Greenberg, John Boswell, and Professor Dan O. Via. Liberal Christians who have always understood that the Bible and other religious texts contexts are of its own time. They very much agree that, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, and mind, and your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets" (Matthew 22:40). Clearly homosexual marriages will not harm these people's beliefs.

I obviously, could not have given every single detail from the book regarding this controversal issue, but feel free to check if out. The title is listed above and the author is Allene Phy-Olsen. I simply ask that you read this with an open mind because I do believe that it holds many good points to be consider. So respectfully state your opinion below! No disrespect is allowed here (:
Please do NOT go on a rant on your opinion without considering the points and agruments listed above, thank you, I do not like repeating myself (:
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  • RichFromShowMe 2013/04/03 13:36:07 (edited)
    I disagree!
    RichFromShowMe
    Of the imaginary 1,049 "benefits" of "legal marriage" . . . how many of these "benefits" could be solved by a "same sex" couple who agree to legal and documented agreements.

    2,000 years of "legal marriage" has earned these "benefits" for those, "legally married"?

    Other points are specious; i.e., they are "earned" by "same sex" couples actions.

    When males can bear children is when "same sex" marriage should be recognized . . . 2,000 years of history documents that procreation is the supreme reason for "legal marriage".

    I do believe in freedom, equality and fraternity . . . . . for those who earn it.
  • sjalan 2012/07/08 05:38:20
    I agree!
    sjalan
    +1
    You got the list down pat. Good work.
  • Sebastianchocolatebeargiles 2012/07/07 07:25:20
    I agree!
    Sebastianchocolatebeargiles
    however homosexuality is not controversial...
  • peaches Sebasti... 2012/07/07 11:26:52
    peaches
    Do you know what a controversy is? o.O I'd say it's pretty controversial.
  • Sharon1992 2012/07/06 07:47:34
    I agree!
    Sharon1992
    +2
    I don't view gay marriage as controversial, because I was raised with a tolerant and open mind towards gay people. Also, gay marriage has been legal here since 2001.
  • Skeptikat 2012/07/06 02:43:07
  • Psyblade 2012/07/06 02:19:04
    I agree!
    Psyblade
    +2
    I don't understand why people oppose gay marriage. It has nothing to do with their lives. If you don't want gay marriage, then don't marry someone of the same sex; but don't take away that right from everyone else.

    It's about as ridiculous as trying to ban Twilight for everyone because I don't like the books or movies.
  • Staind_wolf94 2012/07/06 02:11:41
    I agree!
    Staind_wolf94
    +2
    Sadly enough, I AM gay and I could not read all of this. It's a bit dry, but that's controversy for you. I'm sure I agree with all of it though since it's pro-gay marriage. x3
  • peaches Staind_... 2012/07/06 04:00:31
    peaches
    +2
    Hahaha that's fine, I understand. I just had a ranting moment there ^^
  • Staind_... peaches 2012/07/06 04:41:32
    Staind_wolf94
    +2
    hahaha I understand^^ I tend to do my ranting on other people's questions because I don't like asking them myself haha^^
  • Krystle 2012/07/06 01:27:59
    I agree!
    Krystle
    +2
    Why should I disagree? They want to be happy.
  • luke 2012/07/05 23:55:23 (edited)
    I agree!
    luke
    +2
    Here are my arguments against the stupid arguments people make against gay marriage:
    http://www.sodahead.com/livin...
  • Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥ 2012/07/05 23:54:14
    I disagree!
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    How often do people get married for logical reasons?
  • Bingo's Faddah 2012/07/05 23:36:58
    Undecided
    Bingo's Faddah
    +1
    Marriage itself is an outdated practice that should be replaced by a simple business agreement. Besides, all you folks who agree will burn in Hell for eternity for touching each others' nasty bits. It says that somewhere.

    replaced simple business agreement folks burn eternity touching nasty bits
  • peaches Bingo's... 2012/07/06 04:05:23
  • Bingo's... peaches 2012/07/06 15:38:54
  • Flowers 2012/07/05 23:32:44
    I agree!
    Flowers
    +2
    If one disagrees, they don't have to participate. Easy as that. I don't line dance, does that mean no one else can/should either?
  • Pele Emerging 2012/07/05 23:26:52
    Undecided
    Pele Emerging
    +2
    I think that the government should get out of the marriage business and stick with the legal aspects period. Governments should license civil joining of two people, be it opposite or same sex. These unions can be blessed or not by a church or religious organization. That would be the 'married' part. That way those churches or people who do not accept same-sex unions would not have to have any part of it. Also, those who do not believe in God or religion, would not have to have their union blessed or sanctioned by a church. The union would have legal status, regardless of whether a 'marriage' occurred afterwards.
  • JDLogan Pele Em... 2012/07/06 00:30:28
    JDLogan
    +1
    I've been saying this for years, the funny part is how many people on both sides of the issue get mad at this solution.
  • Pele Em... JDLogan 2012/07/06 01:00:19
    Pele Emerging
    +1
    LOL! I know! People who are against same-sex marriage should be happy because their churches will never have to perform what they are against. They're unhappy because it will still happen, whether they like it or not. People who are for it want all people forced to accept it and any church they want to perform the ceremony forced to comply. Sorry, get the churches out of the legal part and into the religious aspect only. They can bless or not bless. If they won't bless your union, so what. Find someone who will. They don't have to do it. And for those whose religion objects? Fine. Don't bless the unions, but mind your own business about the civil aspects. Besides, why should heterosexuals have all the fun of divorce?
  • JDLogan Pele Em... 2012/07/06 01:01:44
    JDLogan
    +1
    Exactly! We need to keep religion out of government and government out of religion!
  • Pele Em... JDLogan 2012/07/06 01:58:21
    Pele Emerging
    +1
    I totally agree. We also need to keep government out of the bedroom, but I'm sure you're on board with that, too.
  • JDLogan Pele Em... 2012/07/06 02:09:27
    JDLogan
    +1
    Out of my bedroom, and mostly out of my video store! ;-)

    We actually NEED government for just a very few things, and telling people how to form their adult relationships isn't one of those things.
  • Pele Em... JDLogan 2012/07/06 02:10:54
    Pele Emerging
    +1
    That's for sure. Consenting ADULTS don't need to have the government peeping in to see that what they're doing is approved.
  • peaches Pele Em... 2012/07/06 04:06:50
    peaches
    +1
    Logical. Too bad civil unions aren't federally recognized...
  • Pele Em... peaches 2012/07/06 04:31:40
    Pele Emerging
    +1
    This is what I think should be recognized: Civil unions should be the legal part and the recognized part. Marriage, which is the blessing of the union, should come after or not, but not have legal status.
  • peaches Pele Em... 2012/07/06 04:35:26
    peaches
    +1
    I like the concept, definitely. But then again, all of the possible solutions are going to have issues... Then there's going to be a gay, religious couple that want to be recognized by the church. And/or a couple where one person is religious and the other is not.
    I personally just think that gay marriage being legalized is a simpler solution, though.
  • Pele Em... peaches 2012/07/06 04:44:00
    Pele Emerging
    I don't like the idea of forcing churches to go along with something. If a church wants to bless something? Fine, but it shouldn't be a situation where a couple feels they have a right to be blessed in a church which doesn't wish to acknowledge their relationship. If the legalities are settled, the couple just has to do what heterosexual couples do when one is religious, but the other not, or one wishes a church wedding, but the other doesn't or even one wishes to be married in a church which will not marry them because of certain things (like previous divorce).
  • peaches Pele Em... 2012/07/06 04:58:22
    peaches
    +1
    Well you do realize that legalizing gay marriage won't be forcing a church to do anything, right? Churches still hold the right to marry whom they chose.
  • Pele Em... peaches 2012/07/06 05:25:56
    Pele Emerging
    I just feel that calling it a civil union and giving such a union legal status is fine. If a gay couple wants to have their union blessed and called a marriage, it's fine with me, provided they don't expect a church which doesn't want to do it to perform the ceremony.
  • peaches Pele Em... 2012/07/06 16:03:17
    peaches
    +1
    Yeah, as I said, I like the concept. It would be quite a drastic change to what people are used to, but change doesn't have to be bad.
  • SamTheSlayer [Codename: Duc... 2012/07/05 23:24:19
    I agree!
    SamTheSlayer [Codename: Duchess]
  • I agree!
    (▪‿▪)DoctorWhoGuru(▪‿▪)
  • Sew 2012/05/29 01:47:26
    I agree!
    Sew
    +4
    I've yet to see a single valid arguement against it.
  • 666_Maggots~PassionForGlory... 2012/05/29 01:40:00
    I agree!
    666_Maggots~PassionForGlory BN-1
    +6
    I believe in equality for ALL!
    kingsley GIF

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