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Personally I have an odd respect for The Westboro Baptist Church. Wait! Don't freak out! The reason I say that is the only honest argument against homosexuality is "I think homosexuality is wrong because of my religious beliefs." That argument is based on the true fact that they believe what they say. It is honest. "Adopted children are not normal" is an ignorant opinion with nothing to base it on. It is not a fact. Had the priest stood up and said, "This is the church's opinion on gays marrying..." that would be fine with me.
I have noticed an escalating use of more and more outrageous arguments wrapped in "science" and "our right to express our religious beliefs." I ...
Personally I have an odd respect for The Westboro Baptist Church. Wait! Don't freak out! The reason I say that is the only honest argument against homosexuality is "I think homosexuality is wrong because of my religious beliefs." That argument is based on the true fact that they believe what they say. It is honest. "Adopted children are not normal" is an ignorant opinion with nothing to base it on. It is not a fact. Had the priest stood up and said, "This is the church's opinion on gays marrying..." that would be fine with me.
I have noticed an escalating use of more and more outrageous arguments wrapped in "science" and "our right to express our religious beliefs." I think the far religious right realized many years ago they would never win an argument using only the Bible when it comes to the law.. The claim that anti-discrimination laws infringe on their right to Freedom of Religion does not hold up in court. As they try to pass more constitutional amendments banning not only gay marriage but civil unions as well, it becomes clear not even separate but equal is acceptable to them. (they also know there is good chance The Supreme Court will strike them down.) Hence the more outrageous the claims against gay men and women are becoming. There is actually a statistic claiming 17% of all gay men eat feces. It comes directly from a discredited "study" by Paul Cameron and it is still quoted as fact by some in the far religious right.
That is why I said what I did about Fred Phelps and his in-bred family. They base their hate on an honest conviction. Equating gay marriage with bestiality was an outright lie and the priest knew it when he said it. That's not only hateful it's cowardly and desperate.
Unfortunately it's nothing new.
Pagans and Wiccans accept homosexuality and bisexuality as natural and unchangeable orientations for a minority of adults. Most groups welcome people without regard to their sexual orientation. Most regard sex as a gift of the Goddess to be enjoyed responsibly, and in accordance with one's sexual orientation. That is, sexual orientation is morally neutral. Sexual behavior -- whether between two persons of the same sex or of opposite sexes -- only becomes immoral if it is unsafe, manipulative or non-consensual.
An individual Wiccan generally acknowledges that female and male energies permeate the universe. The sun is regarded as male; the moon female. The rain is male; the nurturing earth is female. They also contain both both female and male energies within themselves. Their beliefs and rituals help them sense these energies and achieve an optimum balance.
There are also a few exclusively gay and exclusively lesbian Neo-pagan groups.
There may be a few Pagans or Wiccans who do not share this view but 99.99% of Pagans accept homosexuality as normal and natural
The idea of everyone containing both male and female energy becomes a little to metaphysical for me personally. I do think most of us have quailities that are usually described as male or female.
As for the acceptance of homosexuality as natural, obviously I agree, but the truth is whether any religion does or doesn't is not an issue for me. Beyond the 1st Amendment which guarentees freedom of religion for all Americans, I don't think anyone should be required to accept anyone else in the privacy of their home or church. I certainly don't. What I was ranting about earlier was the fact some religious groups are arguing any acceptance of homosexuality is somehow preventing them from the free expression of their beliefs. If a city bans discrimination in employment based on sexual orientation that is an infringment on their rights which, when they argue it in court, does not hold up under the scrunity of law...
And here I go again, up on that soap box. I'm even annoying myself today. :^D
Pagan Religions always Accepted it as normal
gay marriage was very accepted back in ancient pagan civilizations
homosexual marriages were common till the 12th century then the church pretty much started thier hate homosexual its a sin campaign
im not saying Pagan Religion is better than Abraham ones
im saying if you want concepts of Freedom Liberty and justice
those are found in Pagan Religions
we believe everyone has the right to the pursuit of happiness as long as it does not interfere with the free will of another person
It's simply brilliant.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...
(edit) Found this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programm...
Has a few clips that reveal that frozen dead babies were kept to show to mothers as part of the adpotion ring.
I was a product of a prostitute mother and some John of hers and was a ward of the state for 4 years before I was adopted by a wonderful man and his wife, who became my mother and father.. I worshiped this man, moreso than Mom, just for the fact I was a Boy and my Dad was my inspiration for all that I did...
I would hope that I came out normal and I do believe I have contributed to the good of society in my 74 years...
Of course this same dude would condemn me because I dont believe in all the religious dogma, and people like him are just a part of the reason why....
Life is short. Don't get to the end of your life and have a mind full of regrets. Live your life like it matters. Have as much fun as possible! Help as many people as you can! Experience all that you can! Live!
Can you imagine this country run by those that wish to disband the Dept of Ed. and let each area teach their children history etc in their own versions. OMG what a nightmare. And it is truly scary to know that there are many people who want this!
Too bad these idiot priest don't realize that roughly 10% of their students are homosexual and that they will evenutally turn on the church for this, that is if they haven't been raped already.
macho man stopped the Rapture