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90% of Addicted Cannabis Smokers are Addicted to Nicotine, Link?

LukeC 2012/05/09 04:10:22
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Could Nicotine be responsible for making a safe lightweight drug addictive, and dangerous?

Many today who smoke Cannabis use Tobacco from Brand Cigarettes (John Player is the choice in my Area) as they simply do not have enough weed for pure joints and even bongs.

Could smoking Cannabis be a part of enjoying there nicotine craving?

Any research would show that a large percentage of Cannabis smokers are also addicted to Nicotine, many who do not even smoke Cigarettes!




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I believe awareness of this needs to be increased.
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  • Vitalani 2012/05/09 04:43:24
    More Research needed..
    Vitalani
    +8
    Did you know that 97.985769% of statistic are pulled directly from the perporter's anus?

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  • John Galt jr or Ron/jon 2012/06/08 04:33:23
    Yes
    John Galt jr or Ron/jon
    The link is blunts...
  • Wayne TH G 333 2012/05/15 01:29:39
    Yes
    Wayne TH G 333
    People who like smoking, like smoking.
  • BRIDGET 2012/05/14 23:46:34
    No
    BRIDGET
    MARIJUANA IS NOT PHYSICALLY ADDICTIVE-IT CAN BE PSYCHOLOGICALLY ADDICTIVE. SO WHAT IF PEOPLE SMOKE CIGARETTES? I DON'T KNOW OF ANY SMOKERS THAT (unlike drunk drivers) ever caused the horrible accidents and deaths that alcohol causes-or the destruction of the family that alcoholics cause on their families.
  • LukeC 2012/05/14 05:19:19
    Yes
    LukeC
    OK, Americans did not understand this question, as they are mostly lucky enough to get large enough quantities of weed so that they do not have to mix it with tobacco to make up for the lack of weed to burn.

    IN IRELAND, AND IM SURE MANY OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD, PEOPLE PUT ABOUT 70% TOBACCO 30% WEED INTO JOINTS. MOST OF THEM YOUNG KIDS, THE OLDER GUYS TEND TO BE WELL ENOUGH OFF TO HAVE ENOUGH WEED TO MAKE IT 50%-50%.

    I HAVE SEEN ENOUGH OF MY OWN COUNTRY TO KNOW THIS, AMERICANS IF YOU WOULD LIKE PROOF ITS AS SIMPLE AS COMING OVER AND LOOKING FOR YOURSELF.

    AND REMEMBER THIS IS AN INTERNATIONAL WEBSITE, AMERICAN MAJORITY, BUT A LOT OF THE TIME I REALLY DONT CARE ENOUGH ABOUT AMERICA TO HEAR ABOUT IT.
    THANK YOU.
  • KaylaE 2012/05/09 20:01:24
    No
    KaylaE
    Cannabis is not addictive physically it is only addictive mentally. Cigarettes are both mentally and physically addictive.
    That being said I personally don't think their is any connection in the two. You might as well say that there is a link with alcohol and cigarettes because I do not ever smoke unless I get drunk/trashed (which is not very often, maybe 2 times a year if that) I know A LOT of Cannabis smokers and I'd say about half do not smoke cigarettes.
  • LukeC KaylaE 2012/05/14 05:12:17
    LukeC
    +1
    Well believe it or not, I and at least 10 other people I know who have quit (or tried) smoking still smoke when they drink, my little brother has been off smokes for 2 months and still smokes everytime he drinks, sometimes when he smokes weed he needs to smoke cigarettes too (hes 16, but in Ireland thats practically a man).
    My ma quit smoking a year ago and I have caught her smoking the odd time when she drinks, I have at least 4 friends who do the same thing, and when I quit smoking for 3 weeks, I still smoked every weekend when I drank.

    Eventually smoking weed and drinking lead me straight back to smoking, its pissy.
  • KaylaE LukeC 2012/05/15 00:13:09
    KaylaE
    Yeah, I believe that. But I just don't think it's like that for everybody. Personally I quit smoking pot when I was about 15 but I have done it here and there but for about 2 years I haven't touched it at all And don't feel the need to at all. And with cigarettes I actually quit in January and so far have not had any at all since then (hoping I don't give in again) But anyway I do know that for SOME people drinking is a trigger to smoke both weed and cigarettes But not for everybody.
  • PapaHemp 2012/05/09 18:11:28
    More Research needed..
    PapaHemp
    +1
    I don't know where you got this statistic? Probably from the DEA?
  • socokid 2012/05/09 14:22:52
    More Research needed..
    socokid
    +4
    Stop mixing your pot with tobacco.

    That's like dipping your $50 filet in ketchup... that is laced with highly addictive rat poisoning.
  • BRIDGET socokid 2012/05/15 06:25:17
    BRIDGET
    OH? prove it.
  • LukeC BRIDGET 2012/05/22 15:35:26
    LukeC
    BRIDGET, prove it isnt..

    Nicotine is proven to be highly addictive, 50% of smokers die from nicotine related problems.

    There is no proof that cannabis is any more addictive than ice-cream (I say ice-cream because I know you will want to focus on why I said that RATHER THAN ANSER MY QUESTION) and not one single person has ever died from Cannabis.

    When you have smoked a pure cannabis joint and a mixed joint come back to me, otherwise, stop talking sh*t.
  • Chukroast 2012/05/09 08:49:20
    Yes
    Chukroast
    Ya think?
  • Jen 2012/05/09 08:36:03
    More Research needed..
    Jen
    Don't suck smoke into your lungs, people ... no matter what kind of 'cigarette' is comes from. Jeezus.
  • rosesvengeance BN-0 2012/05/09 06:56:35 (edited)
    No
    rosesvengeance BN-0
    +1
    perhaps people in the Uk mix the two but none of my friends roll joints/hit bongs with a mix of the two. I live in the USA. Btw around here people get about 4grams for $60, of the good stuff.

    I think that most of the people who smoke cigarettes and MJ started smoking cigarettes before they smoked MJ
  • LukeC rosesve... 2012/05/09 09:22:54
    LukeC
    4grams? ya only get about 2 nice blunts outta that?

    Spose I could hit about 50 bongs with it though :D

    Definitely, I actually smoked cigarettes days before smoking green.
  • rosesve... LukeC 2012/05/13 06:43:08 (edited)
    rosesvengeance BN-0
    well you do the conversion lol. Here they call it an eighth for 1/8 ounce.
    1⁄8 (0.125) oz = 3.54369 g.. is what I get.

    It's almost twice as much as you said people where you live get for roughly $65
  • LukeC rosesve... 2012/05/14 05:13:59
    LukeC
    +1
    Yeah and I would only get one blunt out of a bag of weed over here haha, so our maths are correct.
    Maybe I just put more weed in my joints :P

    Im a pretty heavy smoker..
  • Elisa ✦ Knockout™ 2012/05/09 05:20:08
    No
    Elisa ✦ Knockout™
    +4
    i don't smoke cigarettes yuck but i openly puff mj :)
  • Vitalani 2012/05/09 04:43:24
    More Research needed..
    Vitalani
    +8
    Did you know that 97.985769% of statistic are pulled directly from the perporter's anus?
  • LukeC Vitalani 2012/05/09 05:07:09
    LukeC
    Well then get your own proof, I meet thousands of people in a year, you dont think I notice what happens around me? Cheeky
  • Vitalani LukeC 2012/05/09 05:14:53 (edited)
    Vitalani
    +5
    Good for you, so does everyone else. The number of people you meet doesn't mean jack. Your observations as a normal person don't either. Mass censuses and scientific research do. You can't just pull percentages out of your ass and pass them off as facts based on research which you haven't even done.

    Show me a study and I may believe your claims of 90%. Personal experience means nothing.
  • Kyra Vitalani 2012/05/09 05:21:03
  • LukeC Vitalani 2012/05/09 05:23:19
    LukeC
    MY observations as a normal person could be more accurate than some, when you want to find out exactly how much of the youth are drinking, do run a survey? Good luck getting an honest answer.

    Study needs support, it means money, theres not enough research being done, Im just telling what I am seeing, and im sure many will agree.

    Meanwhile like any good Christian, im going to keep talking about something people can only believe, and I want to hear what they have to say, you never know how far a question like this can go..
  • Vitalani LukeC 2012/05/09 05:31:38
    Vitalani
    There is plenty of research being done, I assure you. There are also other ways of determining how much of our countries youth is using OTHER than asking them. Anyone knows that. Study does need support, and there is LOTS of it. You obviously haven't found it though.
    Yes I'm sure many stoned, angsty little teens would agree with you. Honestly, that does't mean anything either.

    Now, are you going to back up your claims? You have the floor to prove me wrong or at LEAST prove yourself right.

    "Any research would show that a large percentage of Cannabis smokers are also addicted to Nicotine, many who do not even smoke Cigarettes!"

    -Please show at least 3 studies (I mean you did say ANY) which show this.

    "90% of Addicted Cannabis Smokers are Addicted to Nicotine"
    -Show me 1 credible and recent study which confirms this.

    You're right, you never know how far this question my go. But it won't go anywhere unless you back your sh*t up. =]
  • LukeC Vitalani 2012/05/09 05:41:10 (edited)
    LukeC
    http://www.irishcentral.com/n...

    Not straying off the point here, could only find an appropriate study for drink to show the contrast between government study and ACTUAL EXPERIENCE.

    Ok, Studys done show only half of all Irish teenagers aged 15-16 have been drunk in PAST 12 MONTHS? Ask anyone from Ireland and they will tell you like me, that is a massive lie.

    They are basing this on arrests made, and only know about these incidents when they are serious. In my are Crumlin (entire poulation 55000) there are smaller areas and of course smaller numbers of people aged 15-16. In the smaller area I live in (roughly 2000) I know every youth, and a large number of older people too. And let me tell you, youths as young as 8 or 9 are getting drunk, kids as young as 12 get drunk on a regular basis. By 16, drinking is a normal part of life, im 18 and bored of drink, as are many others.

    Now I know the rest of Crumlin is very much the same as my area, worse in spots, and I know people from all over. No study is going to know that though, garda just know this as a dangerous area with high crime rates.

    I could do something similar for cannabis if you would like, I chose alcohol because I had an actualy study on Ireland to show you the contrast of government study, and actual experience.
  • Vitalani LukeC 2012/05/09 05:53:41
  • LukeC Vitalani 2012/05/09 09:31:32
    LukeC
    What you mean its in effing Ireland? Where do you think Im talking about?!?! Dont give 2 f*cks bout America when it comes to something important like this..

    Your not to good at reading are ya? That post is to give you an example of just how wrong an "effing" survey can be ya f*cking creep, How can you find that offensive? Im from Ireland and Living here right now and im Telling you thats the way it f*cking is! Come and see for yourself, a creep like you wouldnt last 2 days over here.

    When you see for yourself, you will laugh at half..

    Two thousand younger people, can you do maths either?? No obviously only about 30%-50% are youths and only about 5% asre 15-16 years old, can you add that up or you want me to add that for you 2?

    I know everyone well enough, on an average Friday night I will meet and spend time with 4 or 5 different groups of 20-30 people, add it up again. Everyone I spend time with wouldnt pass up a joint, They are all aged from 16-21, they all drink once or twice a week. I have been doing this for years at a very consistent rate can you actually understand any of that??

    Just noticed you accused me of making things up? You calling me a liar?? thats a very serious accusation love and you wanna prove it!




    As for the last part, if you cant understand any of that, then you...

    What you mean its in effing Ireland? Where do you think Im talking about?!?! Dont give 2 f*cks bout America when it comes to something important like this..

    Your not to good at reading are ya? That post is to give you an example of just how wrong an "effing" survey can be ya f*cking creep, How can you find that offensive? Im from Ireland and Living here right now and im Telling you thats the way it f*cking is! Come and see for yourself, a creep like you wouldnt last 2 days over here.

    When you see for yourself, you will laugh at half..

    Two thousand younger people, can you do maths either?? No obviously only about 30%-50% are youths and only about 5% asre 15-16 years old, can you add that up or you want me to add that for you 2?

    I know everyone well enough, on an average Friday night I will meet and spend time with 4 or 5 different groups of 20-30 people, add it up again. Everyone I spend time with wouldnt pass up a joint, They are all aged from 16-21, they all drink once or twice a week. I have been doing this for years at a very consistent rate can you actually understand any of that??

    Just noticed you accused me of making things up? You calling me a liar?? thats a very serious accusation love and you wanna prove it!




    As for the last part, if you cant understand any of that, then your just hopeless and you need to go talk about something else a bit easier to understand. By the way, I know your next move is to pick out that im 18, well guess what, I have done a lot of living in my short 18 years, Im about to run Night clubs and concerts this summer, I been living and working since I was 13. What have you managed to do in your 21 years?

    If you feel personal enough to call me liar, I feel personal enough asking you these questions..
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  • Vitalani LukeC 2012/05/09 16:45:23 (edited)
  • LukeC Vitalani 2012/05/09 09:34:47
    LukeC
    If you cant actually answer my reply, dont bother, really, your just wasting my time at this rate if you havent got on board. Silly American
  • Vitalani LukeC 2012/05/14 23:53:12 (edited)
    Vitalani
    I did answer your reply. Are you blind?
    YOU, however have not proven yourself. I'm still waiting for statistics to back up your claims. Although this circus has gone on for so long I take it you are just a liar.
    I apologize for not jumping on the bandwagon, as you clearly have.
  • Steve LukeC 2012/05/22 05:06:22
    Steve
    You're not crazy, there seems to be an association between weed and nicotine addiction:
    Cannabis smokers risk nicotine addiction
    http://www.theage.com.au/arti...
  • BRIDGET Vitalani 2012/05/14 23:55:18
    BRIDGET
    ALL THIS ALLEGED RESEARCH ON TOBACCO CAUSING LOW BIRTH WEIGHTS IS BS! I AND ALLLLLLL MF G/F SMOKED DURING PREGNANCY AND ONE FRIEND, TIFFANY'S BABIES WEIGHED 11 LBS,7OZ. AND HER SECOND ONE WEIGHED 12 LBS 3 1/3 OZ. MINE WEIGHED 7 LBS, 8 1/2 OZ. THE OTHERS WERE ALLL HEAVIER THAN THE "AVERAGE" BIRTH WEIGHT OF 6 LBS. IT DEFIES LOGIC TO PICK ON SMOKERS BUT ALCOHOL IS LEGAL.
  • Vitalani BRIDGET 2012/05/14 23:58:57 (edited)
    Vitalani
    It does not defy logic. Take a look at statistics. Tobacco use DOES factor into low birth weight. It just does. It is an undeniable fact. It just..IS. lmfao
    I do not care WHO you know or what your personal experiences are. They play into the statistics which prove tobacco contributes to low birth weight. Are you really trying to deny YEARS and YEARS of research, hypothesis, and outcome??
    And yes dear, alcohol IS lead...What is your point? SO IS THE TOBACCO WHICH YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
    Caps lock stuck sweetie? haha

    Also, what the hell are you talking about? You are starting an argument with me over something I didn't even SAY. You are bitching and moaning at me about something that has nothing to do with anything. May I ask WHY you are wasting your breath?

    (PS. Your girlfriend was an irresponsible aren't even before HER kid was born, that's just sick and sad. I feel for HER child.)
  • Elisa ✦... Vitalani 2012/05/09 05:21:19
    Elisa ✦ Knockout™
    +1
    lmao :)
  • Metaldane 2012/05/09 04:29:56
    More Research needed..
    Metaldane
    +1
    Well first I doubt 90% I know a lot of potheads I even smoke it every once in awhile and don't like tobacco but even for the ones that do it's not like one caused the other alcoholics for example also tend to drink huge amounts of caffeine but it's not like energy drinks caused them to drink alchohol.
  • LukeC Metaldane 2012/05/09 05:10:24
    LukeC
    You do realize people having been saying that about Cannabis for the past 80 years, the gateway thing just fly right over you? Now that was pretty much complete bullsh*t, but look at how much effect it had, cannabis has been illegal for 80 years?

    Nicotine is a proven killer, 100 times more addictive than cannabis, and at least 4 more times than heroin, you tell me why it should be legal?
  • Metaldane LukeC 2012/05/09 06:56:37
    Metaldane
    +1
    I support leagalization of both especially weed but for tobacco they know what it's doing to them if they want to I say let em.
  • LukeC Metaldane 2012/05/09 09:32:37
    LukeC
    Yeah, just a shame the way it has played out so far, it is due for change soon :)
  • Metaldane LukeC 2012/05/09 11:52:17
    Metaldane
    Lately most of the polls suggest the majority is now for legalization so might not be too long.
  • GeminiWolf 2012/05/09 04:24:17
    No
    GeminiWolf
    +2
    Tobacco mixed with reefer is nasty and harsh.

    Nearly everyone in this town smokes pot, and I think I know one person who rolls spliffs (tobacco/weed cigarettes) out of all of them.

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