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Why do atheists ask for proof of God, when nothing that is said will convince them?

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  • Melizmatic 2012/05/04 01:27:09
    Its because:
    Melizmatic
    +9
    Well, first off that's a broad assumption that ALL atheists ask for proof of God, or that they actually care what others believe.


    As to the 'why';

    It's a valid question.

    If something can not be seen, heard, felt, tasted or smelled, then its logical to question its existence outside of the minds of the believers.

    And frankly, there is no tangible proof for or against the existence of God; therefore, anyone getting bent out of shape about what others believe or dont believe is a huge waste of energy, IMO.

    Personally, I strongly believe in a higher power; but that belief isn't based upon anything tangible.

    I believe because of my own experiences and what I feel in my heart.

    If others haven't had my experiences, and don't feel what I feel, then it makes no sense for me to get butthurt because others don't believe the way I do.

    Bottom line; I think its less about the creator and more about people's individual vanity.

    Everyone wants to be "right."

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  • lolitalovely 2012/06/20 05:38:37
    Its because:
    lolitalovely
    +1
    If you're going to have the ca-hones to tell me that my beliefs are based on lies or faith, I'm going to use the unprovable nature of god to show you the same thing.
    It's called respect. Out of respect, I understand your position and don't press my own position on you. If you don't return that respect, I will revoke my respect.
    God is possible, but so is getting eaten alive by a shark. The probability of god is incalculable, so all I can say without a doubt is possible.
  • Vision of Verve 2012/06/02 17:17:23
  • Guru_T_... Vision ... 2012/06/11 12:39:06
    Guru_T_Firefly
    Sorry, but it's impossible to hate something that isn't there.
  • Vicerei... Guru_T_... 2012/06/20 06:00:12
    Vicereine Killbride
    Its all a belief.
  • Guru_T_... Vicerei... 2012/06/21 12:42:32
    Guru_T_Firefly
    Ya think?
  • Vicerei... Guru_T_... 2012/06/22 06:14:24
  • Guru_T_... Vicerei... 2012/06/25 12:08:09
    Guru_T_Firefly
    You're a master of the obvious.
  • scbluesman13 2012/06/01 21:19:38
    Its because:
    scbluesman13
    +1
    We don't "ask" for proof of God. We claim that none exists. I won't ask you for something I know you cannot provide. It stands to reason that if you 'could' prove the existence of God, anyone else could as well.
  • Fingon Celebrindal 2012/06/01 20:40:06
    Its because:
    Fingon Celebrindal
    +3
    Nothing convincing has ever been said.
  • +Harmonious Love+ 2012/06/01 15:01:19 (edited)
    I don't know.
    +Harmonious Love+
    I'm wondering the same thing. But not all atheists are like that
  • Guru_T_Firefly 2012/06/01 13:53:25
    Its because:
    Guru_T_Firefly
    People can say anything and they usually do. If you want to prove that god exists, convince him to make a personal appearance. If you can't do that, nothing you can say will ever prove he exists.
  • classic 2012/06/01 13:36:25
    Its because:
    classic
    +2
    Words do not prove anything,, words are not material evidence.. If they were to have undisputable evidence to back up the words it might be a different story....Did you know that I can walk through brick walls....
  • D.C.Verdone 2012/06/01 13:31:23
    Its because:
    D.C.Verdone
    A lot of people can't wrap their mind around faith. Which is believing in something they can't see or touch.
  • Brad # 2486547 2012/06/01 12:39:05
    Its because:
    Brad # 2486547
    It's because most atheist are mad at God and they they think they are hurting God's feelings by denying his existence.
  • Guru_T_... Brad # ... 2012/06/01 13:55:08
    Guru_T_Firefly
    How can I possibly be angry with someone or something that I don't believe exists to begin with? I think you need to join reality.
  • Brad # ... Guru_T_... 2012/06/05 11:35:01 (edited)
    Brad # 2486547
    Reality is in the eye of the beholder. If God exists(which he does) Will we know it when we die, because you will be in hell and I in heaven. If God does not exist, you or I will never know who was right..because you will be dead and there will be nothing. Either way, you lose.

    Here is where I will go

    The gates of heaven

    Here is where you will go if you don't believe

    gates of hell
  • Guru_T_... Brad # ... 2012/06/05 14:41:45
  • Brad # ... Guru_T_... 2012/06/05 16:45:35
    Brad # 2486547
    You make it sound painful. I have never been more happy believing in God and Jesus as my savior. I live well, healthy, family, friends. I have a great life and I ow to God. I am not wasting anything.

    You have no proof that there isn't a hell or heaven.

    If you don't have guilt that means you have no conscious. You must be someone who must not have morals of any kind. You must be the kind that advocates, "Do it because it feels good", no matter what the consequences. Good luck with that lifestyle. A lot of people who have that attitude, die of AIDS, drugs and end up lost and lonely.
  • Guru_T_... Brad # ... 2012/06/06 12:04:25 (edited)
    Guru_T_Firefly
    It IS painful for those who must endure such behavior. YOU have no proof that there is. Guilt does not prove the existence of "conscience". Luckily for me, there have been only one or two very small instances in my life which produced ANY reasons to feel guilt. You must be the kind that advocates "live in fear of god or you'll burn in hell. A lot of people who have that attitude die having wasted much of their lives in servitude to their cruelly-invisible friend only to be denied the hokey afterlife that they spent their life seeking entry to. If you feel guilt, you're doing it wrong.
  • Brad # ... Guru_T_... 2012/06/06 12:11:43
    Brad # 2486547
    How am I in pain? How do I live in fear? How am I wasting my life?

    Again, you have no proof that people who believe in God and Heaven are wasting their lives. You are making statements that you can't back up.

    If you don't feel guilty when doing immoral acts, then you have no conscious.
  • Guru_T_... Brad # ... 2012/06/06 18:16:06
    Guru_T_Firefly
    You have no proof for your ridiculous statement that atheists have no guilt and therefore no conscience, either, yet you insist on making the idiotic statement. Doesn't that make you a hypocrite? As I said before, if you feel guilt, you're doing it wrong.
  • Brad # ... Guru_T_... 2012/06/07 12:10:54
    Brad # 2486547
    You said it yourself that religion makes you feel unnecessary guilt.
    What unnecessary guilt are you talking about? What should we not feel guilty about?

    Religion has taught as that murder is wrong, stealing is wrong, adultery is wrong(not against the law, but wrong because it hurts people), promiscuous sex(which can lead to disease and pregnancy) If one does not feel guilt for these things then they don't have a conscious. Religion over the ages has wired us to know what is right and wrong. When we feel guilty, we know consciously or even subconsciously we have disappointed God. Even if you choose not to believe in a higher power, but you feel guilt it is because deep in your soul or subconscious, you know you have disappointed the Creator.

    Think about it, before God gave us a soul or when we were still apes or Australopithecus(Lucy), there wasn't any guilt when one monkey killed another. Once God created the modern man by giving him a soul, he showed or even told the early humans how to behave. No killing, no stealing..etc...

    If you don't feel guilt when doing wrong, then you have no conscious and you have lost the connection with God.
  • Guru_T_... Brad # ... 2012/06/07 12:54:31 (edited)
    Guru_T_Firefly
    You want an example of unnecessary guilt, try original sin. A believer is supposed to feel bad for everything that someone else did before they were ever born and they're fully expected to atone for it and the non-believer is condemned even before that.

    I'm reminded of the story about the missionary teaching the Eskimo about god. During the course of the story he spoke of infant deaths and how babies who die during childbirth would automatically go to heaven because they weren't taught about god. The Eskimo asked the missionary, "Do you mean that if you had never told me about your god, I would automatically go to heaven?" The missionary answered, "Yes," replied the missionary. The Eskimo then asked, Then, why did you tell me?"

    I never said there wasn't such a thing as guilt, just that I don't have it. I make it a point to never do things that would require me to feel guilt for having done them.

    There is no connection with god. That is a man-made myth. The god of which you speak has given us absolutely nothing. In fact, he/she/it has given no indication at all that he/she/it even exists. All of the basic tenets that you claim religion teaches existed before religion was ever invented by man. The point is that I'm not worried about disappointing a creator that has given no indic...
    You want an example of unnecessary guilt, try original sin. A believer is supposed to feel bad for everything that someone else did before they were ever born and they're fully expected to atone for it and the non-believer is condemned even before that.

    I'm reminded of the story about the missionary teaching the Eskimo about god. During the course of the story he spoke of infant deaths and how babies who die during childbirth would automatically go to heaven because they weren't taught about god. The Eskimo asked the missionary, "Do you mean that if you had never told me about your god, I would automatically go to heaven?" The missionary answered, "Yes," replied the missionary. The Eskimo then asked, Then, why did you tell me?"

    I never said there wasn't such a thing as guilt, just that I don't have it. I make it a point to never do things that would require me to feel guilt for having done them.

    There is no connection with god. That is a man-made myth. The god of which you speak has given us absolutely nothing. In fact, he/she/it has given no indication at all that he/she/it even exists. All of the basic tenets that you claim religion teaches existed before religion was ever invented by man. The point is that I'm not worried about disappointing a creator that has given no indication that he/she/it exists and if you're living your life in servitude to a vengeful deity in the off-chance that that vengeful deity won't arbitrarily send you someplace other than the highly-imaginative heaven that you're hoping for, you're clearly missing out on the best parts of life.
    (more)
  • Brad # ... Guru_T_... 2012/06/07 13:01:01
    Brad # 2486547
    Again I ask you, what is the best part of life? How is my religion preventing me from enjoying life?
  • Guru_T_... Brad # ... 2012/06/07 16:05:13
    Guru_T_Firefly
    Count up how much time you spend thinking about, worshiping or confirming the imagined existence of your imaginary god. That'll be your answer. You owe it to yourself to be honest.
  • Brad # ... Guru_T_... 2012/06/07 16:47:37
    Brad # 2486547
    This is where you are wrong again. Thinking about God and Jesus is not a waste of time. I find comfort and peace when I think of Heaven. Therefore, it is not a waste of time and I am enjoying life to the fullest.
  • Guru_T_... Brad # ... 2012/06/07 17:41:58 (edited)
    Guru_T_Firefly
    No, that's where I'm exactly right. I suppose that asking a believer to be honest was a little too much to ask. Expending ANY amount of effort on an imaginary deity and a fictitious religious icon is a complete waste of time.
  • Brad # ... Guru_T_... 2012/06/08 11:25:58
    Brad # 2486547
    Honest about what?

    I told you that I waste no time dedicating myself to a higher power. That is the honest answer. In your view it is a waste of time. Debating this subject with you is a waste of time. If you don't want to believe that is fine, but you don't know me, you don't know other believers. We believe we are not wasting time. For many of us our lives are fulfilled because of our faith.

    Once again, you have no proof that God does not exist. You are not writing facts only your opinion.
  • Guru_T_... Brad # ... 2012/06/08 14:35:10 (edited)
    Guru_T_Firefly
    The difference is that I'm not trying to prove that god doesn't exist. The fact is that nothing anyone can say will ever constitute proof of a deity's existence. It takes tangible, testable evidence to come to a rational conclusion. You so-called Christians keep saying that no proof will ever suffice for atheists, but you never bother to show any.
  • Brad # ... Guru_T_... 2012/06/08 16:08:19
    Brad # 2486547
    It is all about faith. Faith will be rewarded.
  • Guru_T_... Brad # ... 2012/06/08 20:20:05
    Guru_T_Firefly
    So, if I have faith that there are unicorns and pixies, I'll be rewarded?
  • Brad # ... Guru_T_... 2012/06/09 11:44:27
    Brad # 2486547
    Only if you are crazy. But maybe not so much if you believe in Bigfoot.
  • Guru_T_... Brad # ... 2012/06/09 12:28:59
    Guru_T_Firefly
    Yeah, right. Like there's ANY difference.
  • Brad # ... Guru_T_... 2012/06/10 13:16:06
    Brad # 2486547
    If pixies or unicorns existed on this planet, we would have found fossils. Since they are fairy tales, we know they did not exist because there is no earthly evidence.

    Totally difference. God is not dead, God does not have a body like ours. So again, no proof that he does not exist. Why because there would be no physical evidence of God on this planet. He is here in spirit, not a physical presence. He did once become human, through his son Jesus, but Jesus(the Lord) ascended to heaven, so no physical evidence left behind.

    Big difference.

    Remember, Unicorns and pixies, fairies..etc were creatures of the Earth, so if they would have ever existed, there would be physical evidence.
  • Guru_T_... Brad # ... 2012/06/11 03:15:41
    Guru_T_Firefly
    If god existed, we would have found fossils or other evidence proving that he did. However, since he's a fairy tale, we know that he does not exist because there is no earthly evidence. Your ridiculous logic works both ways.
  • Brad # ... Guru_T_... 2012/06/11 11:05:25
    Brad # 2486547
    LOL, how would we have found fossils of God? He is not physically on the planet. Boy you are really stretching now.
  • Guru_T_... Brad # ... 2012/06/11 12:31:34 (edited)
    Guru_T_Firefly
    You claim that your invisible friend exists without proof of any kind, but claim I'm the one who's reaching. You have no proof that your god even exists, much less do you know where he is or what he's allegedly supposed to look like. Now I suppose you're going to tell me that I have no proof that he doesn't exist, right? Your lame responses keep getting lamer and lamer. Unicorns DO exist. You can't prove that they don't.



    real unicorns

    real unicorns

    real unicorns

    real unicorns
  • Brad # ... Guru_T_... 2012/06/12 12:27:39 (edited)
    Brad # 2486547
    Wow..Unicorns exist? This is big news. I guess now you believe in God.

    See, God does exist. Here is a picture of him.

    God

    Sometimes he looks like this
    God george burns
  • Guru_T_... Brad # ... 2012/06/12 17:35:15
    Guru_T_Firefly
    I've proven that unicorns exist. Feel free to prove that god does.
  • Brad # ... Guru_T_... 2012/06/13 10:58:17
    Brad # 2486547
    I just did.
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