What IS Truth?

I understand it differently. Whatever truth is, it is. It exists regardless of if I do. All of my judgment of it is based on my relativity to it. It is the absolute ideal. I don't see reality and truth as the same because realism opposes idealism, and I am relative to the truth. In that respect, whatever it is, I am relative to it and it and I are mutually exclusive. (If I never existed, it would still be) My reality is based on facts, not truth. Fact is the all inclusive perspective of everything at a single point, like a photo taken of the world at a frame on the film at a time. Reality is what is formed when these photos are stitched together. They form a model of truth, but this is not truth because without me or the model, the truth is still mutually exclusive. Even if I include 100,000 pictures from different people's cameras, the model is still not truth. There may be one ultimate reality (as from combining all of our models), but it opposes ideality: to exist only in idea; and it's parts are all relative to it in different ways. If you exist only in idea, you are not real. Real is when that idea is made manifest. Then reality comes from idea. If there is one ultimate reality, each of our partitioned realities is only a fragment thereof. And the ultimate reality is only relative to the truth, even if it came from the truth. If there is no ultimate reality and there are many realities, then it's still not ideal. No matter how we expand, contract, squeeze, explode, etc.. it's not the same. I suppose we can theorize limitless models of reality and how it as a whole or it in parts relate to truth and relate to one another, but I don't understand it to be the same. I see reality opposing ideality.

I hope I worded that right :-x

It does not move away from Biblical truth. If you find it on the border, I feel blessed by God to be so valued by Him. It's not for all to comprehend. He who has ears will hear the Word of the Lord. I need not lean on the English version of the Bible to have the World of the Lord. I read the English yes, but also the Tanakh in Hebrew and much of the NT in Greek. While I do not disagree with what the Lord has revealed to you, I do not discount what the Lord has revealed to me. To deny Him would be sin. I cannot sin simply for the sake of bridging an opinion between us. [Well, I suppose I could, but I wont] It is true that all you need to know is Yeshua. But the depth and closeness of your relationship with Yeshua and the depth and closeness of His relationship with you might be different than the depth and closeness of my relationship with Him and the depth and closeness of His relationship with me. Each person matures at their own pace or according to the maturity given. That's not to say mine is deeper or closer or His is deeper or closer with me. Yours may be deeper or closer or He may be deeper or closer to you. It is not necessary to contrast you and I in that regard simply for the sake of any vanity. To simply know "of" Yeshua however, is not the way. The deciever knows of Yeshua. And many speak in His name and he does not know them. But in relationship with God, I have found God has given me far more than is needed. Seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things will be added unto you. His blessing is bountiful. It is not sin to accept His gifts. There is no sin to desire Him. There is no sin in His desire of me. Much of what is considered privy to God is revealed in Messiah. I would be defending my sin to say that which I do not know is no fault of my own. Or that because I do not know, it must be a secret of God. God will reveal what he will. Now I know in part, but when face to face, I will know even as I am known. We can learn all the earthly science we want and all we come to is a greater vision of reality. Reality will always be a fraction of His creation. Putting faith in reality as if it were ideality, is where some may stumble. The deceiver knows this. And the deceived do not. Not every one that saith unto Him, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the Will of the Father, which is in heaven. Many will say to Him in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in you name? And in you name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? And then He will say unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. This is my understanding. I do not lean on my own understanding.

I started typing, submitted, then kept typing and it was 2 hours... 4x as long as the above and I will put it like this as simply as possible.

I do not disagree with Yaz. And what I first commented is my basis for my other comments. However, my first and second comments were both Biblical and logically accurate. I do disagree with Jo. Reality is NOT Truth.

Then you made it a Bible thing which is your basis, which I did not disagree with. I disagreed with Jo. The issue is you are not comprehending me when I try to explain my logic which is like minded with logos. Still, that does not mean I am wrong just because you cannot comprehend. And not comprehending doesn't mean anything bad toward you, I'm not acting better than you or anything, I disagreed with Jo that reality and truth are not the same and I reasoned why that is in a logically and Biblically sound way. Apparently there is issue with my typing style, block formatting, and semantics, maybe a barrier in that I displayed the design rather than simplifying. Now it just seems you are trying to figure out where all this is coming from when I have told you -- straight forward -- it is all scripturally accurate. And then you are kind of making this about a contrast in the knowledge of Jesus and a struggle over the understanding of Jesus, when I didn't even disagree with your understanding. I feel unrighteously judged however, honestly, because all this Luciferian accusation of bordering this and that, wondering if I am a Jew or a Mormon or a New Ager or whatever, it's disturbing that you cannot see I did not contradict the written Word, the Word made flesh - Logos, nothing, totally 100% consistent, and you can't see that... I don't know what to say to you.

I would be glad to unravel this and point by point for clarity if you feel the need to test me, but I guarantee I am not only right, but my going over it with you will be at least 10 pages of reading so let me know if you'd like to continue.

No hard feelings either way, it's all in love. Let me know.

Actually, PM, I am NOT trying to debate you.
I AM trying to write words that I can understand to make sure that we DO indeed agree.

Some of the things that you wrote "sounded" a bit New Age, and post-Modern.

The spiritual mentors of my youth were all very clear about the wording of TRUTH, and repeatedly assured us that TRUTH IS JESUS CHRIST as written in Colossians 1-2.

Taking time to define all the terms in clear ways, underscoring everything in Jesus to every degree, is necessary for me to understand any writer as being on the same Foundation of TRUTH.

Since your "About Me" section indicates that you are female, I must run the risk of "sounding" overtly-sexist about writing habits, but it can't be helped.

My personal experience with significant females in life (i.e. relatives and friends,) has made me to know that at least these females tend to speak or write one word for every fifty words of meaning.

With all that assumptive meaning in lady-speak, I find myself consistently rappelling-down into the myriad caverns of the female mind in quest of foundational meaning before I am prepared to arduously scale back up these glassy precipices, and return to the male mind with 50 miles of rococo maps that I may intelligently converse with yet another female.

If there is any Bottom Line reason why I can speak and write in such detail, it must be in large part due to the fact that most of my youth was spent conversing with a mother, who could talk for hours, without any definable subject.

You see "Surfing the Tsunamis" of my mother's mind has left me permanently scarred against the possibility that clear-thinking females actually exist.

However, I have come to learn that my experience is NOT universal. That The LORD does indeed create clear-thinking women, and that individuals, such as FREED and Faith, have provided me with precedence that clear-thinking females are part of this world's Reality.

It IS taking me a painful lot of time to change my mind in this regard, but I AM committed to giving ladies the benefit of the doubt in my advanced years. ;)