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What does the Bible say about suicide ? just a little curious

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  • CASS 2012/12/13 18:38:45
    CASS
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    my sister commited suicide she stepped out infront of a train:( im beating myself up over wondering if she is in a better place now or worse? heaven or hell? she was only 15 lived a rough life and her bf that she lost her v too died a month previous to her doing this? whats your opinion?

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  • bob h. closinyou 2012/08/10 22:44:27
    bob h.
    +2
    Give me a break.
  • closinyou bob h. 2012/08/11 06:03:50
    closinyou
    Exactly what I expected! You have no answer. Without a logical explanation for your own existence,what reason do you have to trust your own reason?
    You see, in order for our inferences to be valid, they must be the product of valid reasoning, and in order for our reason to be valid, it must come from a reasonable source – not mindless, purposeless, irrational forces. Are yours from a reasonable source or mindless, purposeless irrational forces?
  • bob h. closinyou 2012/08/11 23:23:32
    bob h.
    +1
    Do you have any idea how old that BS is?
  • closinyou bob h. 2012/08/12 09:19:53
    closinyou
    I guess you prefer logical fallacies over reality. Age has nothing to do with truth.
    If age determines truth, I'd be hard pressed to find anything but lies from you!
    Those who would gain knowledge must not be ashamed to own their ignorance (what they do not know), nor to desire instruction from any that are able to give it.
  • Mat closinyou 2012/09/07 20:52:23
    Mat
    Hey Bob. There you go again. Why don't you offer some concrete responses and stop with the childish anger.
  • Magnilo... bob h. 2012/09/07 21:08:19
    Magniloquence
    You obviously havent learned much during your 70 years on this planet - or were you on another planet before you came here?
  • bob h. Magnilo... 2012/09/12 04:21:06
    bob h.
    No that would be the Mormon and the Scientologist God.
  • SteamTr... bob h. 2012/09/08 02:31:04 (edited)
    SteamTrunkDolly
    You're correct about 'religion' at least organized religion, it has prevented the truth of the matter... Religious people look at "God" not as a loving parent... but as a BIG HAND IN THE SKY READY TO SMACK THEM DOWN! I am soooo sick of it all... the truth of the matter is that suicide is not even addressed in the Bible... murder is & I guess you could say that suicide is self-murder. However, suicide not being mentioned in the Bible, it then is NOT deemed to be a sin. The Ten commandments were instituted because of lawless people who did whatever they wanted without couscous... With Christ came grace, grace is a gift from a loving Father/Creator. IT IS BY GRACE WE ARE SAVED, NOT BY OUR WORKS. Grace is set apart from the law, that we may find love & forgiveness in spite of our failure to be perfect. Where the law failed, our Creator's grace is sufficient!

    Everyone is very special to our Creator, therefore... IT IS BY GRACE WE ARE SAVED, NOT BY OUR WORKS...

    Ephesians 2
    2:4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of his great love with which he loved us, 2:5 even though we were dead in transgressions, made us alive together with Christ – by grace you are saved! – 2:6 and he raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 2:7 todemonstrate in the comi...
    You're correct about 'religion' at least organized religion, it has prevented the truth of the matter... Religious people look at "God" not as a loving parent... but as a BIG HAND IN THE SKY READY TO SMACK THEM DOWN! I am soooo sick of it all... the truth of the matter is that suicide is not even addressed in the Bible... murder is & I guess you could say that suicide is self-murder. However, suicide not being mentioned in the Bible, it then is NOT deemed to be a sin. The Ten commandments were instituted because of lawless people who did whatever they wanted without couscous... With Christ came grace, grace is a gift from a loving Father/Creator. IT IS BY GRACE WE ARE SAVED, NOT BY OUR WORKS. Grace is set apart from the law, that we may find love & forgiveness in spite of our failure to be perfect. Where the law failed, our Creator's grace is sufficient!

    Everyone is very special to our Creator, therefore... IT IS BY GRACE WE ARE SAVED, NOT BY OUR WORKS...

    Ephesians 2
    2:4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of his great love with which he loved us, 2:5 even though we were dead in transgressions, made us alive together with Christ – by grace you are saved! – 2:6 and he raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 2:7 todemonstrate in the coming ages the surpassing wealth of his grace in kindness toward us in ChristJesus. 2:8 For by grace you are saved through faith, and this is not from yourselves, it is the giftof God; 2:9 it is not from works, so that no one can boast 2:10 For we are his workmanship, having been created in Christ Jesus for good works that God prepared beforehand so we may do them.
    works boast 210 workmanship created christ jesus works god prepared
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  • BRIDGET 2012/04/23 16:28:32
    BRIDGET
    +1
    NOTHING-EXCEPT THAT KING SAUL COMMITTED IT IN THE O.T. THERE ARE SOME SUBJECTS THE BIBLED IS SILENT ABOUT. BUT I HEARD A SERMON ONCE THAT SAID (about suicide) DON'T YOU THINK GOD UNDERSTANDS THE REASONS SOMEONE DOES THAT? IT'S NOT THE UNPARDONABLE SIN YOU KNOW-
  • closinyou BRIDGET 2012/05/14 09:12:35
    closinyou
    +1
    " ...DON'T YOU THINK GOD UNDERSTANDS THE REASONS SOMEONE DOES THAT?"
    Does that make it okay somehow? You seem to have forgotten, Jesus walked the Earth and experienced life first hand (though he didn't have to being all knowing). Then he died and felt the pain of our sins. In other words, HE KNOWS THE REASON WE DO ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING! He knows and understands why some murder, abuse others etc... ARE THESE ALL OKAY TO DO NOW. THEY AREN'T UNPARDONABLE!
    BTW. .. blaspheme of the Spirit includes making claims about the Spirit, not consistent with Biblical teaching. Be very careful what you do. It sounds like the pastor has made an exception for sin that is simply not Biblical.
    God understands EVERYTHING we do! If he didn't, he would not be a just and holy God, that does not change, bend, alter or make exceptions!!

    Malachi 3:6
    "I the LORD do not change. So you, O descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed."

    2 Thessalonians 1
    New International Version 1984
    6God is just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you 7and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with his powerful angels. 8He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9They...
    " ...DON'T YOU THINK GOD UNDERSTANDS THE REASONS SOMEONE DOES THAT?"
    Does that make it okay somehow? You seem to have forgotten, Jesus walked the Earth and experienced life first hand (though he didn't have to being all knowing). Then he died and felt the pain of our sins. In other words, HE KNOWS THE REASON WE DO ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING! He knows and understands why some murder, abuse others etc... ARE THESE ALL OKAY TO DO NOW. THEY AREN'T UNPARDONABLE!
    BTW. .. blaspheme of the Spirit includes making claims about the Spirit, not consistent with Biblical teaching. Be very careful what you do. It sounds like the pastor has made an exception for sin that is simply not Biblical.
    God understands EVERYTHING we do! If he didn't, he would not be a just and holy God, that does not change, bend, alter or make exceptions!!

    Malachi 3:6
    "I the LORD do not change. So you, O descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed."

    2 Thessalonians 1
    New International Version 1984
    6God is just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you 7and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with his powerful angels. 8He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the majesty of his power 10on the day he comes to be glorified in his holy people and to be marveled at among all those who have believed. This includes you, because you believed our testimony to you.
    11With this in mind, we constantly pray for you, that our God may count you worthy of his calling, and that by his power he may fulfill every good purpose of yours and every act prompted by your faith. 12We pray this so that the name of our Lord Jesus may be glorified in you, and you in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.b
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  • peter.g... closinyou 2012/09/08 12:28:47
    peter.g.mackie
    If God understands everything we do, then he would also understand the state of mind someone is in when they commit suicide. It is often an involuntary act. Someone is driven to suicide by severe depression which is a form of mental illness and, for anyone who hasn't exprerienced this, it is very hard to imagine. What the depressive needs, is understanding, not judgment for being in a state of mind that he/she cannot control.
  • bob h. BRIDGET 2012/05/21 16:12:57
    bob h.
    +2
    Sounds like bible banger v. bible banger. OR; my KJ can beat up your New American.
  • Erin 2012/04/20 23:31:48
    Erin
    +1
    Thou shalt not kill ! (even yourself ! ) Hope you are really just wondering what the bible says about it and not contemplating suicide dude - are you ?
  • 2789847 Erin 2012/04/24 18:31:09
  • closinyou 2789847 2012/05/16 20:49:32
    closinyou
    +1
    "i have a daughter. i need to take care of her"

    So you in a limited capacity, you can relate to how God see's you, his child! His love for YOU is greater than that of all parents on Earth... combined! The difference is, he won't force you accept his love! You have to be willing to choose God's love for you over your own love for yourself! God blesses those willing to do so.

    Hebrews 11:6 And without faith it is not possible to be well-pleasing to him, for it is necessary for anyone who comes to God to have the belief that God is, and that he is a rewarder of all those who make a serious search for him.

    Those who get wisdom love their own souls;
    those who cherish understanding prosper. - Proverbs 19:8

    Luke 9:23
    New International Version (NIV)
    23 Then he said to them all: “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me.
  • ~*Polic... closinyou 2012/07/03 10:21:56
    ~*PoliceGirl*~ (>^-^)>
    +2
    god doesnt force his love on us so why are you trying to?
  • closinyou ~*Polic... 2012/07/03 13:09:59
    closinyou
    I'm not. Its sad that by simply quoting Gods word you feel angry or pressured. That feeling is your conscience. Gods love is not something to run or hide from. It's greater than all the love you could feel in your lifetime combined.

    SADLY, YOU ATTACK WHEN OTHERS SHOW LOVE AND WHEN OTHERS SHOW HATE. THE GLARING PROBLEM IS THAT IF YOU DENY GOD, YOU MUST ALSO DENY RIGHT AND WRONG, LOVE AND HATE ETC...
  • ~*Polic... closinyou 2012/07/03 22:50:35
    ~*PoliceGirl*~ (>^-^)>
    no thats not where my problem lies I have a god. My god just isn't the same as yours and I dont quote him or his worshipers all the time.
  • peter.g... closinyou 2012/09/08 12:30:54
    peter.g.mackie
    Where did you get that idea from - Nietzsche?
  • bob h. Erin 2012/05/28 18:55:17
    bob h.
    +1
    You're invoking the 6th? How do you explain the Crusades; or the Bush family?
  • Margaret Jacobson 2012/04/20 16:42:22
    Margaret Jacobson
    +1
    had a family member commit suicide...........At first it is harder on the rest of the family....but life goes on !!........It is something "very personal" between you and GOD, Bible says something in several areas...........TAKE YOUR PICK !!! YOU CAN JUSTIFY ANYTHING ANYWHERE IN BIBLE......I call it the "BOOK OF CHOICES"
  • Margare... Margare... 2012/04/24 18:29:00
    Margaret Jacobson
    +1
    you are right, been there UNDERSTAND IT ALL
  • closinyou Margare... 2012/05/14 16:45:20
    closinyou
    +1
    Thats what Satan calls it too! Unfortunately, people are still falling for his lie.

    It seems as though you are of the opinion that the Bible is somewhat unclear or vague as far as the "law" is concerned. This couldn't be further from the truth.

    Additionally, to say, "It is something "very personal" between you and GOD", presents another problem. Looking at the life of Job, Jonah, King David, and others who contemplated suicide, we see that God supports life.

    "Walk in all the way that the LORD your God has commanded you, so that you may live and prosper and prolong your days in the land that you will possess."
    --Deuteronomy 5:33

    "Do not be overwicked, and do not be a fool--why die before your time?"
    --Ecclesiastes 7:17

    Suicide is not an option for those who put their faith in God. The opposite is true. We are not promised an easy life on Earth. However we are promised eternal paradise with him if we keep his commands and LIVE to carry out his will for us, believing we are saved by Jesus blood on the cross and made strong by the Holy Spirit, knowing that we are,

    "... being strengthened with all power according to his glorious might so that you may have great endurance and patience..."
    Colossians 1:11
    New International Version (NIV)
  • peter.g... closinyou 2012/09/08 12:49:09
    peter.g.mackie
    Unfortunately, some people have lost all will to live and you are still setting yourself up as being superior to such people due to the state of mind that they are in. I would say that is very un-Christian and un-forgiving.
  • dog 2012/04/19 14:16:31
    dog
    +1
    It is Mortal sin, it is in the the Bible it might be worded differently though.
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾ 2012/04/18 14:53:56
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +1
    Suicide is a noble thing if it results in the death of your enemies (including civilians).
    And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars upon which the house stood, and on which it was borne up, of the one with his right hand, and of the other with his left. And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life. -- Judges 16:29-30

    Suicide must be a good thing since Jesus did it.
    Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. -- John 10:17-18

    At the end of the world many will try to commit suicide to escape God's torments, but God won't let them.
    And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. -- Revelation 9:6
  • bob h. ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/04/23 18:50:50
    bob h.
    +1
    Harsh.
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... bob h. 2012/04/23 18:59:37
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +1
    its the Bible thank the Goddess Pagan Scriptures say Sucide is only a last option when the heart and soul cry or need to be released when the body is broken
    the body will become with the earth but the spirit will be reborn in another body to continue the journey

    i know your athiest

    i interept that as if your paralyized and will suffer then to end your life
    and you just get reincarnated
    we have no hell
    then again no heaven either
    just journey of souls and reincarnation
  • closinyou bob h. 2012/05/14 16:53:41
    closinyou
    +1
    Harsh ... not really. As a self proclaimed pagan minister, his goal is to deceive and bring others to Hell with him. It is not so much harsh as it foolish.
    As seen below, his faith is in Satan who comes to take life as shown by the false writings he refers to. The heart and soul cry apart from God by the choice to live for ones self.
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾ 2012/04/18 14:53:42
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +1
    What the Bible says about Suicide

    It's better to kill yourself (or have someone assist your suicide) than to be killed by a woman.
    And a certain woman cast a piece of a millstone upon Abimelech's head, and all to brake his skull. Then he called hastily unto the young man his armourbearer, and said unto him, Draw thy sword, and slay me, that men say not of me, A women slew him. And his young man thrust him through, and he died. -- Judges 9:52-53
  • ~*Polic... ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/07/03 10:23:21
    ~*PoliceGirl*~ (>^-^)>
    +1
    wow i never realized the bible was THAT sexist.....
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... ~*Polic... 2012/07/03 12:12:36
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    +1
    oh it gets worse if you like me to share with u
  • ~*Polic... ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/07/03 22:51:43
    ~*PoliceGirl*~ (>^-^)>
    sure i always have wanted to read and learn more
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... ~*Polic... 2012/07/03 23:18:15 (edited)
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    Pretty much the entire Bible Promotes hate Racism homophobia hate toward Athiests ,Pagans like myself Women who can Read

    who are not allowed to preach the word of God or talk about God

    1 Cor. 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

    the bible also says Slavery pedophillia Rape are okay and approved by God
  • ~*Polic... ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/07/03 23:33:12
    ~*PoliceGirl*~ (>^-^)>
    yepp
  • peter.g... ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/09/08 12:54:20
    peter.g.mackie
    Where does The Bible say that paedophilia is OK?
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... peter.g... 2012/09/08 14:04:47 (edited)
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    It's OK to have sex with "women children" that are obtained in war.
    no mention is made of age)

    . And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. Numbers 31:1-18
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... peter.g... 2012/09/08 14:05:29
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    It's OK to sell your daughter (no mention is made of age) to a man for him to use as a sex slave.

    if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant ... If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed ... If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish. Exodus 21:7-10
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... peter.g... 2012/09/08 14:06:00
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    Go and lie in wait in the vineyards; And see, and, behold, if the daughters of Shiloh come out to dance in dances, then come ye out of the vineyards, and catch you every man his wife of the daughters of Shiloh ... And the children of Benjamin did so, and took them wives, according to their number, of them that danced, whom they caught. Judges 21:20-23

    Says CHILDREN so God is saying RAPE CHILDREN
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... peter.g... 2012/09/08 14:06:21
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
    How shall we do for wives for them that remain, seeing we have sworn by the LORD that we will not give them of our daughters to wives? ... And the congregation sent thither twelve thousand men of the valiantest, and commanded them, saying, Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead with the edge of the sword, with the women and the children. And this is the thing that ye shall do, Ye shall utterly destroy every male, and every woman that hath lain by man. And they found among the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead four hundred young virgins, that had known no man by lying with any male: and they brought them unto the camp to Shiloh. Judges 21:7-11

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