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What do you think about states looking to sucede from the United States?

StEwPiD MoNkEy 2012/11/13 20:22:14
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I say let them go. Let Texas be the first. They will become a third world country before the ink is dry. Then they can see how well the really had it. But don't let them come back. Watch Mexico take them over.

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  • Doc. J 2012/11/13 21:56:14
    Or Not To Sucede
    Doc. J
    +11
    It's partisan silliness and nothing more.
    Here's something the seccesionists haven't thought about:
    The US Military.
    No, we are not the threat....but we DO have bases and posts and depots in just about EVERY STATE that wants to "run away from home" That's FEDERAL land and it's full of federally owned stuff that "Uncle Sugar" isn't going to part with, or try to relocate.

    Petition DENIED.

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  • Sherlock Dog BL - a Gazillion 2012/11/16 08:49:39
  • Tony 2012/11/14 18:17:03
    Undecided
    Tony
    I think it's an empty threat. Much like the people who say they are going to leave America if a certain person is elected. They never do.
  • Idiot repubs 2012/11/14 12:22:10
    Undecided
    Idiot repubs
  • Elephant Lord 2012/11/14 04:03:54 (edited)
    Undecided
    Elephant Lord
    +1
    Let them secede, but make sure that they receive zero help from the USA. None of America's allies, no federal aid money, no help from the US military, nothing. They will have to govern themselves, and form their own military. I can guarantee that within a year they would be begging to be let back into the Union, be snatched up by another country like Mexico, or else continue to exist as chaotic, third-world countries. Just look at all the "new" countries in Africa.
  • Anna 2012/11/14 03:44:18
    Or Not To Sucede
    Anna
    +1
    The amount of people, not States, that want to secede is so small it is laughable. In Texas about 82,000 people wanted to Secede. Big number right? Know what is even bigger? 25,674,680, which was the about the population in 2011. It this Republican State, the one that would have probably the easiest time seceding, a grand total of .3% of the population signed saying they wanted out. Not even half of a percent.
    Honesty, if they are having such an awful time of it it would be easier for hem to just find some other country to call home. They could trade citizenship status with some of the Mexicans that want to come here.
  • **StarzAbove** 2012/11/14 02:46:45
    To Sucede
    **StarzAbove**
    +3
    Let them go, but don't come running back to us when you have no social security, no medicare, no medicaid, and when a natural disaster hits, don't ask for help from us, you're on your own.

    What a bunch of sore losers, they'll really be losers if they leave the United States.
  • shane 2012/11/14 02:23:19
    Undecided
    shane
    My only real concern is if it is the best interest of National Security, Otherwise i would say that borders have been re-drawn often throughout history and it will happen eventually.
  • Zody Honeybee 2012/11/14 02:07:32
    Undecided
    Zody Honeybee
    They are still going ask for Federal help,
  • Magus BN-0 2012/11/14 00:34:47
    Or Not To Sucede
    Magus BN-0
    +2
    There are no "states looking to sucede from the United States." There's just a tiny fringe minority of sore losers who're filing meaningless petitions.
  • lowcountry70 2012/11/14 00:32:53
    Undecided
    lowcountry70
    As for Texas, they won their freedom from Mexico once, doubt Mexico would win this time.
  • unclepat 2012/11/14 00:08:39
    Or Not To Sucede
    unclepat
    +1
    TELL EM' TO HAUL ASS AND DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT EM' ON THE WAY OUT. THE FAUX PATRIOTS AMONG US ARE HAVING A HISSY FIT BECAUSE THE BLACK GUY WON AGAIN. GO TO SOMALIA, CUBA OR NORTH KOREA FOR ALL THE HELL REAL AMERICANS CARE!!!
  • Tic-Toc 2012/11/13 23:17:00 (edited)
    To Sucede
    Tic-Toc
    Texas is the leading crude oil-producing state in the nation.

    The State's signature crude oil type, West Texas Intermediate (WTI), remains the major benchmark of crude oil in the Americas.

    Texas’s 26 petroleum refineries can process nearly 4.8 million barrels of crude oil per day, and account for more than one-fourth of all U.S. refining capacity.

    More than one-fourth of all U.S. natural gas production occurs in Texas, making it the nation’s leading natural gas producer.

    Texas is also rich in renewable energy potential, including wind, solar, and biomass resources.

    Texas areas including the Panhandle, the Gulf Coast, and the Trans-Pecos have some of the nation's greatest wind power potential. Texas leads the U.S. in wind-powered generation capacity and is building substantial new capacity. West Texas alone has more than 2,000 wind turbines, and their numbers continue to increase as development costs fall and wind turbine technology improves. At 736 megawatts, the Horse Hollow Wind Energy Center in Central Texas is the world's largest single wind power facility.

    Texas solar power potential is also among the nation's highest, with direct solar radiation suitable for large-scale solar power plants in West Texas.

    Due to its large agricultural and f...

    Texas is the leading crude oil-producing state in the nation.

    The State's signature crude oil type, West Texas Intermediate (WTI), remains the major benchmark of crude oil in the Americas.

    Texas’s 26 petroleum refineries can process nearly 4.8 million barrels of crude oil per day, and account for more than one-fourth of all U.S. refining capacity.

    More than one-fourth of all U.S. natural gas production occurs in Texas, making it the nation’s leading natural gas producer.

    Texas is also rich in renewable energy potential, including wind, solar, and biomass resources.

    Texas areas including the Panhandle, the Gulf Coast, and the Trans-Pecos have some of the nation's greatest wind power potential. Texas leads the U.S. in wind-powered generation capacity and is building substantial new capacity. West Texas alone has more than 2,000 wind turbines, and their numbers continue to increase as development costs fall and wind turbine technology improves. At 736 megawatts, the Horse Hollow Wind Energy Center in Central Texas is the world's largest single wind power facility.

    Texas solar power potential is also among the nation's highest, with direct solar radiation suitable for large-scale solar power plants in West Texas.

    Due to its large agricultural and forestry sectors, Texas has an abundance of biomass energy resources.

    Although Texas is not a major hydropower state, substantial untapped potential exists in several river basins, including the Colorado River and the lower Red River.
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  • santa6642 2012/11/13 23:04:39
    To Sucede
    santa6642
    +1
    Wonderful A great move., No obamanation
  • redneck woman 2012/11/13 22:45:22
    Undecided
    redneck woman
    +2
    If they sucede, I doubt they will become a 3rd world country. Try reading the history of the Roman Empire. It seems to be repeating it'self.
  • Herbtheman 2012/11/13 22:38:35
    To Sucede
    Herbtheman
    +1
    I pitty mexico if they mess with Texas
  • Elephan... Herbtheman 2012/11/14 04:07:15 (edited)
    Elephant Lord
    +1
    Except that Texas won't have the help of the US army. It's been over a century since the last clash with Mexico, and a lot can change over time.
  • EDWARD G Elephan... 2012/11/15 01:04:54
    EDWARD G
    +1
    Mexico's army can't even protect its own citizens, why would they invade Texas?
  • Mamaknows 2012/11/13 22:32:22
    To Sucede
    Mamaknows
    +2
    Texas has the best chance of actually getting it done....and maybe Alaska. If it does happen it would be a struggle but I do think there would be a great many people that would choose to move there to support them and find others that are tired of the nanny socialist state we have become.

    But more then ANYTHING if it happens or not it is a message to the idiots (and the ones that voted for them)in charge that a great many people....good people are tired of the insanity that has become our inept government.

    Have you seen the numbers? In less then 3-4 days most have the numbers to be placed on a ballet. I know Texas does with close to 30,000+ in less then 3 days!!

    What does that tell you? It tells me that people do not feel that they are being heard...that they feel put down and bullied for their beliefs/opinions/ideas and that there is not any hope of getting THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT TO HEAR THEM...they disagree with the policies/laws/agenda that is has been and is SO promanant for the last 10-20 years.

    There are MANY people in Cali that have no voice in their own government. The people down south in the cities(all liberal it's like a magnet to liberals:( ) figured out the could just vote to take water from the north...and then a bunch of enviornmental laws that destroyed farm...
    Texas has the best chance of actually getting it done....and maybe Alaska. If it does happen it would be a struggle but I do think there would be a great many people that would choose to move there to support them and find others that are tired of the nanny socialist state we have become.

    But more then ANYTHING if it happens or not it is a message to the idiots (and the ones that voted for them)in charge that a great many people....good people are tired of the insanity that has become our inept government.

    Have you seen the numbers? In less then 3-4 days most have the numbers to be placed on a ballet. I know Texas does with close to 30,000+ in less then 3 days!!

    What does that tell you? It tells me that people do not feel that they are being heard...that they feel put down and bullied for their beliefs/opinions/ideas and that there is not any hope of getting THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT TO HEAR THEM...they disagree with the policies/laws/agenda that is has been and is SO promanant for the last 10-20 years.

    There are MANY people in Cali that have no voice in their own government. The people down south in the cities(all liberal it's like a magnet to liberals:( ) figured out the could just vote to take water from the north...and then a bunch of enviornmental laws that destroyed farms and ranches up and down the state....but turned around and buy up the properties to build HUGE houses that no locals could buy, put up fences and keep out signs on creek and lake access so places that have been used and cared for by the local people for years. Take a good look at the county by county voting maps and you'll see....ALL red except a small group.....just like the US map.
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  • none 2012/11/13 22:16:26
    Undecided
    none
    +2
    Considering what's going on I'm not surprised some states are thinking of it.
  • Max7 2012/11/13 22:12:54
    Undecided
    Max7
    +2
    One of the greatest things about America is the freedom of speech and choice, so if a person feels that they should sucede these United States, it would be their choice. I hate to say it, but some people look better going, than they do coming!
  • Mamaknows Max7 2012/11/13 22:36:00
    Mamaknows
    +1
    LOL that what many people think about our goverment right now.
  • Max7 Mamaknows 2012/11/14 03:29:40
    Max7
    I'm sorry, but you're going to have to explain your comment to me, I don't have a clue as to what you are trying to say.
  • David 2012/11/13 22:00:42
    Undecided
    David
    +3
    I think that looking at the number who have actually signed these petitions they would even win a local council election!
  • Doc. J 2012/11/13 21:56:14
    Or Not To Sucede
    Doc. J
    +11
    It's partisan silliness and nothing more.
    Here's something the seccesionists haven't thought about:
    The US Military.
    No, we are not the threat....but we DO have bases and posts and depots in just about EVERY STATE that wants to "run away from home" That's FEDERAL land and it's full of federally owned stuff that "Uncle Sugar" isn't going to part with, or try to relocate.

    Petition DENIED.
  • Latti I... Doc. J 2012/11/13 22:25:26
  • Mamaknows Doc. J 2012/11/13 22:40:41
    Mamaknows
    +1
    LOL so you are saying that if the majority of a states people think they are better off seperate from the federal tit....that another civil war wil begin?
    The federal nannies might not like THEIR cash cow going to another farm....I think it scares them so many are willing to entertain that they could live without the union.....and the union will be weaker for it.

    It is a message if nothing else. People are tired of the socialisum....they want out.
  • Tic-Toc Mamaknows 2012/11/13 23:25:46
    Tic-Toc
    +1
    I agree... Not that anyone will listen... but it's better then just being a sheep waiting to either get feed or get slaughtered
  • Doc. J Mamaknows 2012/11/13 23:28:49
    Doc. J
    +8
    We could discuss that if that were the case.
    BUT...it isn't.
    IT'S NOT EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO A MAJORITY EVEN IN THE LEAST POPULUS STATE.....
    And let's also be VERY clear that these petitions do NOT come from the STATES, but from a very small portion OF a percentile of private citizens within each state.
    And upon close inspection, would you care to hazard a guess what the political alignment of those private citizens is??
    No, sorry. The United States of America will not be divided, or split, or rendered in any other fashion because (only some) conservatives and tea partiers are upset that the presidential election did not go the way they wanted, and then decided that since they didn't get their way they were going to "run away from home" instead....

    This is the sort of thing I would expect from children.
    Here's how it's going to go.
    The petitions will be filed in the round filing cabinet....period.
    Liberals will NOT be living in "Liberal Land" and the Conservatives will not be living in "Conservative Land".
    Both sides will continue to suck it up and drive on when their side loses an election, as they have done thus far. They can b!tch and complain all they like, but when the sun sets, we're ALL Americans and we will be Americans when it again rises.

    Y'know....it's odd. All the vigor that ...

    We could discuss that if that were the case.
    BUT...it isn't.
    IT'S NOT EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO A MAJORITY EVEN IN THE LEAST POPULUS STATE.....
    And let's also be VERY clear that these petitions do NOT come from the STATES, but from a very small portion OF a percentile of private citizens within each state.
    And upon close inspection, would you care to hazard a guess what the political alignment of those private citizens is??
    No, sorry. The United States of America will not be divided, or split, or rendered in any other fashion because (only some) conservatives and tea partiers are upset that the presidential election did not go the way they wanted, and then decided that since they didn't get their way they were going to "run away from home" instead....

    This is the sort of thing I would expect from children.
    Here's how it's going to go.
    The petitions will be filed in the round filing cabinet....period.
    Liberals will NOT be living in "Liberal Land" and the Conservatives will not be living in "Conservative Land".
    Both sides will continue to suck it up and drive on when their side loses an election, as they have done thus far. They can b!tch and complain all they like, but when the sun sets, we're ALL Americans and we will be Americans when it again rises.

    Y'know....it's odd. All the vigor that the conservatives put into keeping the words "under god" in the pledge, and they wern't even part of the ORIGINAL wording. Yet at the SAME TIME, they will disregard the ONE word that gives the pledge it's fundamental strength.

    Indivisable.
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  • Mamaknows Doc. J 2012/11/17 19:16:28
    Mamaknows
    LOL so 60 THOUSAND people (that was as of 2 days ago and just Texas)....are nothing in your book? You MUST be liberal.
  • Doc. J Mamaknows 2012/11/17 22:38:16
    Doc. J
    Two football stadiums worth of people in a state of OVER 25 MILLION?
    Yeah, it's nothing.
    No, I'm what you call REALISTIC.
  • Tic-Toc Doc. J 2012/11/13 23:23:32
    Tic-Toc
    Sorry... But you will find that just about all military bases are LEASED....
  • Doc. J Tic-Toc 2012/11/13 23:45:38
    Doc. J
    +5
    And you will find out that the Federal Government can and will continue paying that lease while not budging from any of them and you will also find out that ALL such leases do NOT expire until Uncle Sugar decides they do. NO other party has any say in the matter.
    (Those were part of the terms OF those leases)

    They....are vital to the security of the UNITED STATES.
  • Tic-Toc Doc. J 2012/11/14 00:06:39
  • Doc. J Tic-Toc 2012/11/14 00:10:42
    Doc. J
    +4
    (mistaken rave)

    No, I am not.
  • Wake The Sheeple 2012/11/13 21:54:48
    To Sucede
    Wake The Sheeple
    +2
    These authoritarian states of America no longer hear the people secession is all that's left... That isn't violent.
  • Wake Th... Wake Th... 2012/11/13 21:55:33
    Wake The Sheeple
    +1
    "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - John F Kennedy
  • jgh57 2012/11/13 21:49:45
    Or Not To Sucede
    jgh57
    +4
    In Texas once we closed their 15 military bases and took back all of our assets, Then cut off their Federal funds for their highways and other Federal projects, stopped their Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid funds their economy would collapse. States like Mississippi and Alabama that draw far more from the federal funds than they put in would collapse the first day. Note these are the far right nut jobs of the Tea Party not the actual states. Also in many cases they are finding the same names over and over again on the petitions.
  • Tic-Toc jgh57 2012/11/13 23:30:07
    Tic-Toc
    Damn It... I don't know how many times I have said this... Social Security and Medicare are PAID FOR BY THE INDIVIDUAL... The federal Gov't OWES it to the people. (These are not 'freebees').

    You have no Idea what you are talking about. A person can only sign ONCE and they CANNOT SIGN if they DO NOT LIVE in that state.

    As for your 'only RWNJ and TeaParty' you are so far off the mark that your shot didn't even hit the ground.
  • jgh57 Tic-Toc 2012/11/13 23:37:05
    jgh57
    +3
    Sorry you can't have your cake and eat it too. Once you secede you are no longer a US Citizen and no longer entitled to either program. Bye Bye.
  • jgh57 jgh57 2012/11/13 23:38:04
    jgh57
    +1
    Ok I do agree these are not freebies or entitlements. No argument there. However they are only for US Citizens.

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