The truth about the confederate flag!

Next, I am going to tell you what the Confederate Battle Flag does not represent! I want to tell you what it does not symbolize! You will get historical proof for the next few facts. First of all, the Confederate Battle Flag IS NOT a racist flag. I know that you are saying, "The Ku Klux Klan uses the Confederate flag, and white supremacist groups use the Confederate flag." Well yes, they do use it, but they also use the Stars and Stripes as well as the Christian Flag. You have to ask, Why are the Stars and Stripes and Christian Flags not racist flags as well? I mean, if someone is going to be guilty by association, I can show you pictures of the KKK marching in Washington D.C. and there was not one Confederate Flag amoungst them. They are all carrying the Stars and Stripes, the U.S. Flag! If we are going to condemn the flag because the KKK and white supremacist groups use it, lets condemn all the flags. Be consistent! Condemn the Stars and Stripes, and the Christian flag. Here's another fact, Darlington Raceway at the Darlington 400 for years used the Confederate flag on its billboard and advertised itself as the Rebel Raceway. Does this therefore mean that all the Winston Cup drivers were racist? What about Scottish Soldiers? They wear the St. Andrews Cross on their British Army wear. Does that mean that all the Scottish Soldiers are racist as well?

Let me show you the enmity and the hatred and the venom that is being spoken aginst this flag. There is a web site named "The Confederate Flag Must Go!" It was put there by Jack Crawford, who evidently is a black man based upon his other writings and here is what he said. "The Confederate flag is a well recognized international symbol of racism, slavery, hatred, murder, and white supremacey. It should be outlawed, not just banned. Anyone flying it should be corrected in a manner that is usually reserved for overseers, slave masters,and leaders of lynch mobs responsible for the murder of children. Am I clear?" So, what is Mr. Jack Crawford saying? He is saying anyone flying this flag ought to be condemned to death. Mr. Crawford's statement is unhistorical. It is unconstitutional and it is untrue. Do you realize that most attackers of the flag are either motivated by historical ignorance, or pure unadulterated malice toward the South, it's symbols, it's heritage, and it's people. In 1944 a Harris Poll found that two-thirds of black Americans had no problem with the Confederate Flag. No problem at all! Why in the world make the flag an issue? In fact, there are numerous black Americans that speak out for the flag. One of them, R.J. Wilkins of Miami, had this to say. "I am a black man who is not offended by flying the Confederate Flag at the capitol in Tallahassee, Florida. The Confederate Flag is as much a part of my history as of any white persons. It may not represent the best of my race, or be held by some as a contribution to this country's greatness, but it does to me. My great grandparents were a part of the plantations. They worked in the cotton fields, cleaned the big houses and in many ways supported the developement of American society. We should let the Confederate Flag fly as a reminder of our American history both black and white."

Now let me give you another quote that another black man gave. This was quoted by W. Earl Douglas, a black journalist from Charlston, South Carolina. "If hate had been the prevaling emotion between the races, then it is a sage bet that the Confederacy would have never been born." Did you get that? He said that if hate had been the prevailing emotions between blacks and whites in the South, Then you could bet that the Confederacy would have never been born. Continueing, "Fortunately" he says, "There was love, understanding, and compassion. And the two greatest lies ever perpentrated by history are number one, that the South instigated the war, and two, that it was fought by the North for the purpose of freeing the slaves! The Negro was merly used as the excuse for that War while the real reason for it is reflected in every area of our lives where the tentacles of government form the bars of a new slavery. No! Don't furl that Confederate Battle Flag. Let it wave across the South to remind Americans that there exist here a yearning for liberty, freedom and independence that will not be denied. Let it fly as a testimonial to real men and real women who would rather work and fight and shed tears than to beg the government for charity." This man understood folks, he had more sense and knowledge than most people do today.

You see, the Confederate Battle Flag is not a racist symbol and it never has been. So, if you want racism, if you want hatred and white supremacy, I will tell you where to find it--under the Stars and Stripes, the U.S. Flag. Not under the Confederate flag. Do you realize the Emancipation Proclamation was signed on January 1, 1862. On August 14, 1862, less than five months before the Emancipation Proclamation was signed, Abraham Lincoln invited a number of leading blacks to the White House to give them his words of wisdom and demonstrate to them why he was attempting to colonize them back in Africa. By the way, Loncoln's Negro policy was to send them all back to Africa. That was his policy. William Seward, Wiliam Stanton, all of them the same thing. And so he invited these Negros to come to the White House to hear his words of wisdom and I am quoting verbatim what Lincoln said, listen carefull, he says, "Why should they leave this country? This is perhaps the first question for proper consideration. You and we are different races. We have between us a broader difference than exist between almost any other two races. Wheather it is right or wrong I need not discuss. But this physical difference is a great disadvantage to us both as I think. Your race suffers very greatly, many of them living amoung us, while ours suffers from your presence. In a word, we suffer on each side. If this is admitted it affords a reason at least why we should be separated. You are free men here I suppose. Perhaps you have been here to long free, all your lives. Your race is suffering, in my judgment, the greatist wrong inflicted on any people, but even when you cease to be slaves, you are yet far removed from being placed on an equality with a white race. The aspiration of men is to enhoy the equality with the best when free, but on this broad continent, not a single man of your race is made the equal of a single man of our race."--Abraham Lincoln.
Lets translate that. He is saying blacks arn't equal to whites and never will be. That is what Lincoln just got through saying.
Now listen to what Lincoln said in a speech in Charlston, Illinois, 1858. "I am not now , nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negros, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor of intermarriages with white people. there is a physical difference between the white and black races, which will forever forbid the two races from living together on social or political equality. There must be a position of superior and inferior and I am in favor of assigning the superior position to the white man." - Abraham Lincoln. You see, the Confederate flag has never stood as a racist symbol. If you want racism, you go to the Stars and Stripes. In the south, although there was seperation, the blacks respected the whites, and the whites respected the blacks. There was also no trouble in the South back then nor in the 1960s untile the North came down and started stirring up trouble. So the confederate flag is not a racist flag. Secondly, the Confederate flag is not a flag of slavery. It does not represent slavery. Are you getting this? There was not one slave ever brought into this country under the Confederate flag. Every slave that was brought into this country was brought in by the Northern ships under the Stars and Stripes. There was not even a slave brought into this country on a Southern vessel! The slaves were brought into this country on Northern vessels under the Stars and Stripes.

Did you know that out of 224 years that slavery was legal in this country, only four of those years did the Confederate Battle Flag fly! And by the way, there were slaves in this country in 1620. What flag flew over the country more than any other flag during those 224 years? It was the Stars and Stripes It wasn't the confederate Battle Flag. It was the Stars and Stripes! Why hate and attack the Confederate flag. I mean, if you want to hate a flag for slavery, hate the Stars and Stripes! and if you want another, hate the British flag. Did you know that England was responsible for taking over 5 million blacks from Africa and selling them to every nation under the sun. Why not hate the Dutch, Portuguese, or the Spanish flags. They sold slaves. And if you want to hate a flag today, hate the Muslim flags because even today, Muslims are still involved in slavery! Let's be honest. If you believe the war of 1861-1865 was over slavery, then there are two things you ought to think about. The war was not over slavery. Slavery had only been made an issue by the liberal revisionist. It was not an issue. Let me prove to you that the war was not over slavery, and therefore, this flag could not have represented slavery. Abraham Lincoln proposed a thirteenth amendment to the constitution in March of 1861. It is the only proposed constitutional amendment that was signed by a sitting President. It bears Abraham Lincoln's signature. Here was Lincoln's proposed thirteenth amendment. "No amendment shall be made to the constitution which will authorize or give congress the power to abolish or interfere within any state with the domestic institutions thereof, including that a person's held to labor or service by laws of said state." In other words what Lincoln was saying to the South, if you will accept this proposed thirteenth amendment, you may forever keep slaves.
Beauregard never fired on Fort Sumpter until April 9th. This was in March of 1861! If the War had been about slavery and if the South wanted just to keep slaves and that was it, why fire a gun? Just simply accept this thirteenth amendment and it would all be over. This resoulution was passed unamimously by Congress on July 23, 1861. You may read it for yourself in the Congressional Record. Here is what this resolution says: "The War is waged by the states, but to defend and protect the Union." Congress said the War is not about slavery. Lincoln said the War is not about slavery! I will even give you a thirteenth maendment that will allow you to make slavery permanent.
You see what was happening was this: There are a lot of issues and I can't cover them all, but one of the issues was an economic issue. Do you realize the South, before the War, was extreemely wealthy. And the South before the War funded 75 to 80% of all the taxes.. But the North wanted a 40% tariff. the South said no. The most we will ever agree to is 10% tariff. And what Lincoln and the radical republicans were doing was this: They were saying we would give you the thirteenth amendment. We will let you keep your slaves if that is what you want. You just let us keep our tariffs. In other words, the North was willing to sell the blacks out for money, for higher taxs! They wern't interested in the slaves. They could care less. You see, Lincoln also said "If I could save the Union without freeing any of the slaves I would do it." He also said that slaves are property and should be paid for. At a later date, Lincoln also said: "I have no purpose directly or indirectly to interfere with the institution of slavery in the states where it exist. I believe I have no lawful right to do so and I have no inclination to do so." Here, Lincoln is acknowledging that he has no lawful right to interfere with slavery. That is, I have no lawful right, nor do I have any inclination to do so. Did you know that slavery was constitutional? All thirteen colonies held slaves, not just the South, all of them!
Now this brings us to the big question so misunderstood. You say, "But Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation, and this freed the slaves." Let's learn the truth here and get the Emancipation Proclamation straightned out for good. First of all, it did not free the slaves. The Emancipation Proclamation did not free one slave! Here is what Abraham Lincoln tried to do with the Emancipation Proclamation. Lincoln and the other men in his cabnit said it was a war measure. Lincoln, wanted to keep England spacifically, and the rest of Europe particularly from joining in with recognizing the Confederate states of America. That was the first goal in that Emancipation Proclamation. His second goal was that he was hoping that the black slaves in the South would rise up against their white masters and white people. There was not one rebellion during the war of black folks. Did you realize a thousand tourches in a thousand black hands would have emptied the Confederate armies, because men would have gone home to protect their families, and Lincoln knew that! What Lincoln did was this. Lincoln tried to free the slaves in the South where he had no absolute authority and he refused to release the slaves in the North where he did have authority. Did you know that the Northern armies, even when they were fighting the South, had over 300,000 slaveholders in the Northern armies. Did you know that Robert E. Lee before the war ever began, freed some slaves after he had inherited them? Did you also know that General Ulysses Grant, who was the main General of the North, and afterwards, became President, kept his slaves after the war. His excuse was: "Good help is hard to find." You see, the truth of the matter is, the Emancipation Proclamation was not only unconstitutional, and everybody recognized it, it cost the Republicians a lot of elections. There were five Northern states after that which refused to elect Republicians to Congress. Moreover, there were a lot of Union soldiers that deserted because of it and refused to fight. Slavery was not the issue. Slavery was not, or ever the issue, until recently when political revisionist and the politically correct people wanted to make it the issue.
There have been numerous warnings down through history concerning our flag and concerning our heritage and culture. One of these warnings came from General Patrick Cleburne. Now you talk about a prophet, listen to what he said in January of 1864. " If the South lost, it means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy. That our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers, will learn fron Northern school books their vision of the war, will be impressed by all of the infulences of History and Education to reguard our gallant debt as traders and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision." Let me tell you this. That is exactly what has happen in our country! You pick up any text book you want and it will say that the war was over slavery and the North was right and the South was wrong. Sadly, most people believe that! This is what is being taught. The truth is, the war was not over slavery, the Confederate flag is not a racist flag, and the Confederate flag is not a flag of slavery, no matter what anyone says, or uses it for!!!

Now let me put something else on you about the Confederate flag. It is a Christian flag. It represents freedom from tyranny. The flag, as we know it, didn't come into existance until after first Manasses July 21, 1861. The North and South called their battles by different names. So it's either first Manasses, or either First Bull run. During the battle, the confederate battle flag was the stars and bars and this flag was very easily confused with the Stars and Stripes, not only at a distance, but especially under battle conditions. During this battle, General Beauregard was having a great deal of trouble making out the flag while a body of troops moves towards the Union right flanks. He had his lieutenants try and figure the flag out as he didn't know whose army was who's. After the battle, he proposed to have a battle flag for his armies that was not like any other state or battle flag. He ordered a totally different flag to be made to carry into battle. There were two designs made. One by Colonel Walton, and the other by Colonel Miles. Walton's flag had a Latin cross on it, and Mile's flag had an X, or the St. Andrews cross on it. Beauregard chose the one with the Saint Andrews cross. Let me tell you this, Andrew was the first desciple of Jesus Christ, and preached the gospel relentlessly across Eorope. He was crucified around 69 AD in Patria, Greece. His crucifixion, unlike Christ's, who was crucified on a Latin cross, Andrew was crucified on the Andrews cross. It looks like an X. It was at his own request that his cross be like this. He did not believe that he was worthy enough to be crucified like Christ was. Because of his determination to preach, even while hanging on the cross, he was after three days cut down from the cross but died instantly. Thus, Andrew became the patron Saint not only of Russia, but of Scotland.
Did you know that in the 1800s, 75% of the South were Scotch, or Scotish-Irish? The Confederate flag is based upon the national flag of Scotland. The flag of Scotland is the cross of Saint Andrew, and the cross of Saint Andrew is a symbol of the Christian faith and heritage of the Celtic race. In a matter af fact, another name for the Confederate flag is the southern Cross. It was adopted completely for the display of faith in the soverign God of heaven and earth, the God of history, and the God of salvation. Did you know that the confederate constitution recognized the sovereignty of the Providence of God. The Confederate battle flag is a symbol of the Saint andrews cross, a symbol of what the Confederates believed in, their God, and His might and power, and for the soldiers who gave their lives for the principles in which they believed, and fought for. It is a symbol of Southern valor and Patriotism. The flag is not a racist flag, no matter what groups use it, nor for the wrong purpose. It is a symbol mis-used, and mis-understood by many, just as easy as your name can be mis-used by anyone who so wishes!

So why attack the Confederate Battle Flag? Why attack the Confederate Symbols? The South was not fighting as a racist nation or as a slave nation. The South was fighting for constitutional rights. They were fighting for States rights. All you have to do is look at Washington D.C. to know exactly what our forefathers fought against. Two hundred and fifty thousand Confederate soldiers gave their lives to prevent from having what we have today! The extention of the government into every area of our lives is a result of the fact that the South lost the War. To attack the flag, is to attack the truth, which the flag represented. The Confederate flag not only represents a limited view of government, but it also represents freedom from tyranny. Historically everyone understands that the Confederate Battle Flag represents liberty, freedom, and independence against tyranny. So why must the Confederate symbols and monuments and heritage be defamed, destroyed, and derided? Because it stands for the truth and our nation is afraid that one day Americians will question the myths, and propaganda of the political correctness that's in our country today. As we see the truth, we might actually begin to stand for the principal's for which our forefathers stood and fought. Boy, would that cause problems for the present day administration and th present day Socialist program.

In order to keep a people enslaved and content in the present, you must destroy their past. A people who have no past, have no future. The attacks today are against the truth. We need to study our history. We need to study our heritage. We need to come back to the basics. We need to come back to our Christian roots.

In closing, look at Jeremiah Chapter 6:16, it says, "Thus sayeth the Lord stand ye in the ways and see and ask for the old paths, where is the food way and walk therein and you shall find rest for your souls, but they the wicked people said, we will not walk therein."

Think about it, God is saying to stand in the way and see and ask for the old way which is the good way. I would give the culture, character of man, and the morality of man today, for the way men were before the War of Northern Aggression. We better stand in the way and soon ask for the old way, which was the good way. God is not saying anything about black people being slaved to the South, or the Southern "banner" or "symbol" being racist. Man has made that idea, and mis-used the name of the South for it's purpose. To take it our of history, would be taking the black man out of history, as he is just as much a part of the history of America, as the flag is. What would history be without any mention of black people, or the Confederacy? Don't you think our children are already being cheated enough on their education and what they should know about America? You will never, never, change the past history, no matter what you do to hide it. It will forever exist, hidden, or not, and man can never change it
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  • Angie ~ AMERICAN PATRIOT 2008/12/01 04:41:17
    Many Americans died supporting the Confederate flag and it is a true part of history whether anyone wants to claim it or not.... and I really do not care if anyone likes it or not... I think it is a very awesome flag. died supporting confederate flag true history claim care awesome flag

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  • maddy maddy 2008/12/03 16:41:39
    1. Economic and social differences between the North and the South.

    With Eli Whitney’s invention of the cotton gin in 1793, cotton became very profitable. This machine was able to reduce the time it took to separate seeds from the cotton. However, at the same time the increase in the number of plantations willing to move from other crops to cotton meant the greater need for a large amount of cheap labor, i.e. slaves. Thus, the southern economy became a one crop economy, depending on cotton and therefore on slavery. On the other hand, the northern economy was based more on industry than agriculture. In fact, the northern industries were purchasing the raw cotton and turning it into finished goods. This disparity between the two set up a major difference in economic attitudes. The South was based on the plantation system while the North was focused on city life. This change in the North meant that society evolved as people of different cultures and classes had to work together. On the other hand, the South continued to hold onto an antiquated social order.

  • irish maddy 2008/12/03 17:59:52
    yes that is one point of view but the prevailing problem was states rights. the north wanted federal gov interference and the south wanted to remain in control of their own state governments. it wasn't just economics. the north wanted to tax more of the souths goods at a higher tax rate.
  • maddy irish 2008/12/05 01:25:59
    Ya know, I sent all of our emails on this subject to my uni professor. She now retired and cut my grade a full letter from a 4 to a 3 because, I wisecracked that she sure wasn't a kid anymore and she heard me say it. My bad. She is impartial though. She has her doctorate in American History as is extremely impartial. She wrote that we are both correct from our own viewpoints.
    She also commented that we seem to have lost track of the confederate flag. LOL. I submit a we are both right from our individual deductions. Agree to sligtly disagree?
  • irish maddy 2008/12/05 12:45:17
    sure why not???
  • maddy irish 2008/12/24 14:28:24
  • Tonio31~E Pluribus Unum~ 2008/12/01 22:51:13
    Tonio31~E Pluribus Unum~
    The Confederate flag: The flag of a failed nation.
  • irish Tonio31... 2008/12/02 14:05:31
    you still do not get things do you??
  • Tonio31... irish 2008/12/02 21:33:17 (edited)
    Tonio31~E Pluribus Unum~
    What do you mean? :P
  • irish Tonio31... 2008/12/03 13:03:10
    what you said,it is not the flag of a failed nation.
  • Tonio31... irish 2008/12/04 11:08:54
    Tonio31~E Pluribus Unum~
    Yeah it is. :P
  • irish Tonio31... 2008/12/04 12:24:44
    no it isn't ,read your history
  • Tonio31... irish 2008/12/04 12:28:28
    Tonio31~E Pluribus Unum~
    I did and the Confederacy lost the American Civil War and was forced to rejoin the Union. So their littler nation failed. :P
  • irish Tonio31... 2008/12/04 13:01:36
    you still don't get it!
  • Tonio31... irish 2008/12/04 13:10:09
    Tonio31~E Pluribus Unum~
    How don't I? :P
  • aace 2008/12/01 22:12:00
  • Kara 2008/12/01 18:56:28
    Great post. Thanks.
  • irish Kara 2008/12/01 18:56:53
  • Eternal11 2008/12/01 18:45:39
    one of my grandfathers who served in the confederacy, i have copies of the prisoner of war papers--and by more than one granfather i am a daughter of the confederacy
  • Southern Man 2008/12/01 18:36:31
    Southern Man
    Great Post looks like we covered all the bases on this .............. i hope some people can see the truth ............ post covered bases hope people truth
  • irish Souther... 2008/12/01 18:37:32
    me too!! i especially like the quotes from lincoln!!

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