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Teacher in NC threatens student with arrest over Obama.

Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/05/23 02:24:24
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This incident took place in North Rowan High School, Salisbury, NC.
The student whom the teacher threatened with arrest, heard such threats,
or such other tirades, many times before. A friend of his carried a
cellphone that could record video. At a critical moment, he sensed that
this teacher was about to go off on a tangent about the 2012
Presidential campaign. Sure enough, she did. And this student was ready
for that. He told his friend to turn on his cellphone, and the friend did.
The friend then left the cellphone lying on his desk. The video shows a
still picture of fluorescent-tube ceiling lights. The voices on the
video belong to the student, the teacher, and other students in the
class.


The dialog starts out calmly enough. The teacher, whose name no
reporter has yet mentioned, starts to talk about Mitt Romney, and
whether he did, or did not, bully a student when he, Romney, was in high
school. (The family of the “target” has cast serious doubt on the story
as apologists for Obama tell it.) Then the student asks,


Didn’t Obama bully someone, though?


The teacher answers,


Not to my knowledge.


The problem for that teacher: Obama admits shoving a girl in his memoir, Dreams of my Father.
(Or rather, William Ayers, his ghostwriter, admits that for him.) The
student tells the teacher about the reference. The teacher answers,


Stop. No. Because there’s no comparison.


The teacher goes on to say that Mitt Romney must take people telling stories about him, because he is only a candidate, and is not yet the President.


This man is trying to be what Obama is: the President of the United States.


The student then says,


If you’re going to talk trash about one man, then you’ve got to talk trash about the other.


The Constitution. A social studies teacher should know what this document means.

The US Constitution. Photo: National Archives of the United States


Now the teacher raises her voice a little louder. She accuses the student of “disrespecting the President.” The student answers,


But he [Obama] is just a man! Obama’s not a god. He’s still a man.


Now the teacher starts yelling:


Let me tell you something.


Then she raises her voice as high as she can raise it, and screeches,


EXCUSE ME!!!


Then, smacking the back of one hand into the palm of the other in cadence to her words, she declaims,


You! Will not! Dis! Respect! The Prez-! Ident! Of the U-! Nited States! In this Classroom!


She speaks these lines between the 3:06 and 3:17 mark.


Now the teacher has provoked the student, and he talks back:


I will say whatever I want.


The teacher yells back:


Not about him, you won’t!


The dialog does not end there. In between hearing the teacher accuse
him of not doing his classwork, he says that he was merely asking her a
question about Obama. Then, near the 4:30 mark, the teacher says:


Let me tell you something else! As a teacher, I am not
allowed to let you disrespect the President of the United States! I’m
not!


The student says that he said nothing disrespectful, and the teacher
says that yes, he did. For the next several minutes, student and teacher
argue fruitlessly about where Barack Obama and Mitt Romney stand as
adults. The student says that they are equal; the teacher insists that
the law somehow protects Obama from disrespect. At the 6:20 mark, the
student says that when George W. Bush was President, everyone said
disrespectful things about him. (Warning: The student, and then the teacher, start using scatological words from this point forward. Parental judgment and discretion are advised.)


Then, at the 6:39 mark, the teacher, incredibly, says:


Did you know, do you realize, that people were arrested for saying things bad about Bush?


That, of course, is totally without foundation. The student tells her so. When she repeats that threat, he says,


You would have to say some pretty effed-up [censored] to
get arrested. Because they cannot take away your right to have an
opinion, or your freedom of speech. They can’t take that away from you,
unless you threaten the President.


Which that student never does, at any time.


Even more incredibly, the teacher tells the student (7:15) that police do not always read the Miranda Warnings to a person when they arrest him. Then she returns to her opinion that any person who says anything derogatory to or about a sitting President is subject to arrest.


Reports about this disgraceful episode appeared in American Vision, Big Government, and WebTV from Salisbury, North Carolina.


At last report, the principal of North Rowan High School suspended the teacher—with pay.

Read More: http://www.conservativenewsandviews.com/2012/05/22...

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  • Walt 2012/05/23 02:49:04
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    Walt
    +18
    For this teacher to be allowed to impart backwards, un-American concepts through bullying and intimidation is par for the course when it comes to liberal unionized teachers.

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  • Clyde 2012/06/10 13:10:03 (edited)
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    Clyde
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    Typical liberal obama supporter, you're allowed to believe and say what ever you want, as long as you agree with them.
  • John Hall 2012/06/06 17:32:53
    Undecided
    John Hall
    +1
    teachers need to teach and be neutral and students need to be ready to learn and close there mouth and open there minds up .
  • Call me Mark willya? 2012/06/06 14:14:24
    FOUL! Where does she think she's teaching? In Soviet Russia or Nazi Germany s...
    Call me Mark willya?
    +1
    First of all, politics IS a school subject but they call it civics, however they're supposed to learn the facts not their teacher's views.

    Secondly, you don't YELL at a kid in class or ever as a teacher you're supposed to act professionally, that's their parent's job.

    Third and finally, the kid is right, you're allowed to say anything you want about the president as long as it's merely insulting and not threatening in any way. unless you're in the military, in which case you've signed a contract to the effect that you won't talk bad about your commander-in chief. One more of those little perks people don't know about unless they actually join up. You sign quite a few rights away when you enlist.
  • Christian 2012/06/06 11:18:45 (edited)
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    Christian
    +2
    Schools are no place to discuss politics, they are institutions of study. This teacher whom obviously liked the president, can not be demonized for trying to explain why you must respect the president, however at the same time she was not very intelligent in the way she was explaining it, she used bad grammar which is a teacher no no. The children actually sounded very intelligent, because they were cleaver in there entrapment of the teacher.



    Ultimately they were both wrong, the child or children new how to push this teachers buttons. Shame on her for allowing her class to get so unfocused and to allow children to use profane language in her class, this displayed she has no control of her class. The reason for this is they don't seem to have respect for her. The children spoke to her like they were speaking to their big sister. Familiarity breeds disrespect, never let a child talk down to you, you can still be their buddy and teach him or her, but you must be firm in certain situations, if you want them to always respect you. The teacher also should not be struggling to debate a child.



    I can point out a million things wrong with that class and in all of them you must be critical of the teacher, she is the adult and the buck stops with her. The teacher was very dysfunctional and...



    Schools are no place to discuss politics, they are institutions of study. This teacher whom obviously liked the president, can not be demonized for trying to explain why you must respect the president, however at the same time she was not very intelligent in the way she was explaining it, she used bad grammar which is a teacher no no. The children actually sounded very intelligent, because they were cleaver in there entrapment of the teacher.



    Ultimately they were both wrong, the child or children new how to push this teachers buttons. Shame on her for allowing her class to get so unfocused and to allow children to use profane language in her class, this displayed she has no control of her class. The reason for this is they don't seem to have respect for her. The children spoke to her like they were speaking to their big sister. Familiarity breeds disrespect, never let a child talk down to you, you can still be their buddy and teach him or her, but you must be firm in certain situations, if you want them to always respect you. The teacher also should not be struggling to debate a child.



    I can point out a million things wrong with that class and in all of them you must be critical of the teacher, she is the adult and the buck stops with her. The teacher was very dysfunctional and needs retraining. To address the arrest threat. The teacher did not call the police, she just made a threat that the children whom were familiar with her, did not take seriously.



    She was wrong but her mistake was made in the beginning of the year, she does not know how to control a class or get respect from her students. Yelling does not get children to respect you.
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  • stacey Christian 2012/06/06 21:57:03
    stacey
    +2
    You said it all in 4 words "...she is the adult..."
  • Christian stacey 2012/06/06 22:14:44
  • Christian stacey 2012/06/07 02:24:50
    Christian
    +2
    She was allowing children to bate her.
  • stacey 2012/06/06 07:53:02
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    stacey
    +2
    Although I disagree with students arguing with their teacher, I mostly disagree with how the teacher started the argument then handled the situation by demanding everyone take her point of view. I don’t think the students were disrespecting BO. These students were clearly taunting the teacher knowing she's very sensitive about BO and possibly all US Presidents.

    Not only have I demonstrated how little respect I have our current President by addressing him as BO, I’m going to be a bit of a hypocrite too.

    We should show respect to certain people in society and authority figures by virtue of the position or the title they hold, etc... At least in front of their face. I do not have to respect an individual to show them respect. I only have to be a hypocrite, but for the right reasons. Some things I want to do: relinquish my seat to the elderly, the disabled, or a person with children in tow. Some things I have to do: stand if BO entered the room, address him as Mr. President, and go to church on Sundays with my grandmother.
  • Gooky 2012/06/06 04:22:50
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    Gooky
    +2
    God help us...our kids are doomed with teachers like this...
  • stacey Gooky 2012/06/06 08:51:43
    stacey
    +1
    Not all is lost -- We can teach our children manners, respect, honesty, and the art of critical thinking at home. We still have a choice…
  • Xizang 2012/06/06 04:04:29
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    Xizang
    +1
    This teacher just needs to be transferred to South Chicago, where they're all stupid enough to elect some black agitator to the state legislature. Who, by some fluke managed to get elected president by a bunch of whites wanting to prove they're not racists.
  • olylift 2012/06/06 03:41:38
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    olylift
    +1
    Keeping the stereotype alive.
  • Sgt Major B 2012/06/06 03:13:08
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    Sgt Major B
    +1
    "Did you know, do you realize, that people were arrested for saying things bad about Bush?"

    Hell, next time just start the tirade with "I have here in my hand a list....!" Gotta love 'em- when the facts don't fit, they just make 'em up!

    “It’s not that liberals aren’t smart, it’s just that so much of what they know isn’t so.”
    -- Ronald Reagan
  • Tim Upham 2012/06/06 03:12:08
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    Tim Upham
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    We do not live in a police state. When the House voted for impeachment of Richard Nixon, were they all arrested for it? Threatening the life of the President is one thing, but disagreeing is another. We all have the right to do so.
  • jcadla 2012/06/06 03:01:13
  • jcadla jcadla 2012/06/06 03:06:58
  • wtxwoman 2012/06/06 02:46:39
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    wtxwoman
    +1
    That teacher had no control over her class and was ignorant. No wonder our schools are going down the drain. Jeez. There are idiots everywhere.
  • clasact 2012/06/06 02:37:13
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    clasact
    +1
    this is one persons opinions unfortunatly she is employed to teach our children but its not about being a liberal or conservative it just about whats right or wrong and she was wrong .Teaching should be about giveing information and fact not opinions
  • Kat 2012/06/06 02:29:07
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    Kat
    Liberal teachers are destroying the schools. This is the indoctrination process, luckily these kids are too old to sit down shut up and mind her, but think of the damage to the little ones that are young and impressionable.
  • Boetica 2012/06/06 02:26:38
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    Boetica
    +3
    Another example of why our education system is failing: the teachers themselves are ignorant.
  • Tee Quake 2012/06/06 02:24:17
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    Tee Quake
    +2
    The United States president is entitled to respect if he is respectful. Heir Hitler was the titular head of Nazi Germany, but was not entitled to respect. He was entitled to complete distain. Respect is a commodity that is earned as a consequence of actions. No one earns UNWARRANTED respect. It is earned because of right actions. Earning respect by a
    repectfull person is as easy as breething. It's second nature and there's nothing to it. No one earns respect as easily as a religious hypocrite earns like-minded people's think that they can. EG. There's no comparison and Mom like Dad, are members of the last great class. Unfortunately, you have as nuch chance of explaing their gift to them as you have to Hitler or Ghandi,
  • GoodEncounter 2012/06/05 14:06:39
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    GoodEncounter
    +2
    That's outrageous. That teacher needs to be disciplined.
  • Striker 2012/06/05 03:43:22
    FOUL! Where does she think she's teaching? In Soviet Russia or Nazi Germany s...
    Striker
    +2
    She works for the GOVERNment, sillies! What did you expect?
  • TruBluTopaz 2012/06/05 03:22:59
    Undecided
    TruBluTopaz
    +3
    Ideally teachers keep their personal political, social and religious beliefs to themselves. However, when pushed or asked, I will give a measured opinion. But that doesn't entitle me or anyone else to get into a student's face and threaten them just for having a different opinion. I used to teach with a teacher like that and frankly it hurt the numbers of students signing up because they and their parents were so afraid they would get her as a teacher.
  • Arizona1950 2012/06/05 01:51:56
    Undecided
    Arizona1950
    +3
    only because I didn't like either choice.

    My first thought was ... our tax dollars at work under a Progressive and tyrannical regime.
  • nails 2012/06/04 20:03:44 (edited)
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    nails
    +2
    I can't believe a Black teacher in a public school would say or do such a thing.

    Then again.
  • Murph 65 2012/06/02 20:23:59
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    Murph 65
    +3
    Where in the hell did this woman get her teaching degree? Was there a Cracker Jack box laying around somewhere that she found her degree in? Not only is she misinformed and passing out misinformation, she can hardly put a complete sentence together. Her complete bias is seeping out of every pore on her body. Suspended? And with pay? Not in this lifetime. The principal should have grown a set and fired her a**, period. If the kid had been my son, I would have so been in this woman's face when I found out about this. This is the kind of thing that parents should be in teachers' faces about - and standing toes to toes and nose to nose.
  • Striker Murph 65 2012/06/05 03:48:03
    Striker
    +3
    She oughta have been arrested for terrorism! Oops, that's only for Obama haters.
  • Murph 65 Striker 2012/06/05 15:51:44
    Murph 65
    +3
    Which, I believe, is a term attached to anyone who disagrees with his policies? Look out, buddy, they may be coming for you even as we speak.
  • Striker Murph 65 2012/06/05 16:50:28
  • Murph 65 Striker 2012/06/05 18:45:11
    Murph 65
    +3
    You are so funny - but that's exactly the look I would have if I heard they were coming :)
  • Striker Murph 65 2012/06/05 19:37:55
    Striker
    +3
    LOL, let's see now. When they pull the plug on LightSquared how will we even know they're coming. That could become my permanent facial expression!
  • Murph 65 Striker 2012/06/05 22:56:50
    Murph 65
    +3
    This is an image I will have a hard time getting out of my mind. I've been chuckling over that face all day! :)
  • Striker Murph 65 2012/06/05 23:37:08
    Striker
    +3
    "insert image", keyword "panic smiley", showed up 1st or 2nd screen, have fun with it too!
  • Murph 65 Striker 2012/06/05 23:38:26
    Murph 65
    +3
    Thanks a bunch.
  • Celeste Copay 2012/05/27 21:44:20
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    Celeste Copay
    +3
    What a bitch! what she needs to do is to shut up and actually get educated!
  • Striker Celeste... 2012/06/05 03:48:39
    Striker
    +2
    Nope, just get the Terminator and be done with her!
  • seadog6608PWCM 2012/05/27 21:32:49
  • DizziNY seadog6... 2012/05/31 03:38:50 (edited)
    DizziNY
    +2
    Ha ha, I haven't heard the term "broad" in a long time. People from my parents era said that. Sinatra for example in a "Lady is a Tramp". It's all good though :)
  • seadog6... DizziNY 2012/05/31 08:01:54
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