Should the Popular Vote or the Electoral College Decide the Election?
ABC News U.S.
2012/11/07 05:00:00
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Some say using the electoral college for votes is outdated and undemocratic. Which do you think is more important: the popular vote or the electoral college?


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kmay 2012/11/07 19:39:23Electoral College should determine


















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Candidates,our Representatives "Electors" from the party that won take the votes and are assigned a number of "Votes" that re in the EC in a ratio to the number of US Sentors (2) and Congressmen in that respective stae. It is a population issue.,so that the States with the largest Populations have a reflective number of votes in the process as compared to States with a Smaller .Populatons.
We use BOTH Popular AND EC Votes to counter-balance States with the Largest Populations determining an election without consideration of the smaller States. A "Blue" CA and A Blue NY would have every Democrat moving to CA and NY before an election.
Forty five Million voted for Obama but where did those 45M people live?
Mostly in the "Blue" States.
If the situation was reversed and Romney won the Popular vote from Larger Red States,you will see why an EC is necessary.
The object is for all the above to respect the unalienable Rights of the Individual! That is why we don't have a democracy, and should never become one. Democracies only work until 51% find out that they can steal the wealth from 49%. Then, the democracy dies violently.
Thank God, or whomever gave you YOUR unalienable Rights, that our Founding Fathers knew better than to create a democracy.
We should roll back the Constitution to the first X Amendments though, and an 11th defining "person" as any homo sapiens over the age of 18 years.
We aren't buying slaves from other countries to do the grunt work anymore, since people now volunteer to be slaves by signing a W-4.
Rolling back the Constitution to its MEANT controls on the federal government, with today's accepted values that all Homo-Sapiens are "people," would surely be a better thing for all of our liberty.
We are a Republic. The Constitution establishes that all our laws are to be “democratic” laws, laws that apply equally to all people regardless of wealth or class or ethnics or ? But we are not a Democracy where we would be expected to study and debate and vote on every issue, on every law. We elect (hopefully) wiser individuals to do that for us … that is a Republic.
We are steadily losing our rights to forces that ignore the principles of the Constitution and attempt to destroy it... in the name of a false “democracy”. Anyone should automatically be suspect who proposes changes to the one tool that has made us the strongest nation ever, and populated by people that are freer than any ever on the planet.
That said, the electoral college is one of the few remaining if subtle safeguards of that freedom from tyranny.
We are not one nation but a confederation of Nations. We are part of the United STATES. We have a Representative form of government, aka a Republic. Each of those States is allowed representatives to the federal gov...
We are a Republic. The Constitution establishes that all our laws are to be “democratic” laws, laws that apply equally to all people regardless of wealth or class or ethnics or ? But we are not a Democracy where we would be expected to study and debate and vote on every issue, on every law. We elect (hopefully) wiser individuals to do that for us … that is a Republic.
We are steadily losing our rights to forces that ignore the principles of the Constitution and attempt to destroy it... in the name of a false “democracy”. Anyone should automatically be suspect who proposes changes to the one tool that has made us the strongest nation ever, and populated by people that are freer than any ever on the planet.
That said, the electoral college is one of the few remaining if subtle safeguards of that freedom from tyranny.
We are not one nation but a confederation of Nations. We are part of the United STATES. We have a Representative form of government, aka a Republic. Each of those States is allowed representatives to the federal government based on both their population (the House of Representatives) AND on their equality as separate States/Nations (the Senate). Those representatives make common laws for the 50 States ONLY on those subjects that the Constitution gives the Federal Government power to do so... such as a common defense. The Representatives represent the people the Senators (are supposed to) represent the individual States.
The States also have a number of electoral votes based on the combined number of Representatives plus Senators.
It is the States that elect the President, not the people. It is the legislators of each state that determines how those votes are to be cast, not the people. The people are supposed to vote for State level representatives who will then reflect their desires and their best interests in voting for a President.
In most States, their local State laws of past years have determined that the people of that State will determine how those electoral votes will be cast. That is, the State Legislature have determined to follow the results of the popular vote (that is the States' individual choice under the Constitution). In some States they have also chosen to cast those electoral votes as a block based on the majority rule (within that state). But for other States they have chosen to split those votes if the popular vote is split.
The constitution retains that right for each State, to choose how they will cast those votes through the electoral college. Historically, if the State Legislatures chose to do so, they could completely ignore the popular vote.
After all, shouldn't we elect people close to our home, people we might actually know, who hopefully will have more information than we do on who is the best qualified to lead and to serve our interests in those high offices? We should be letting those whom we chose (because we know they are smarter and wiser than us) pick the most capable.
The election of a President is supposed to be the selection of the most qualified leader, not choosing who we think looks best in a few hours of television debates. It is not a popularity contest. It is not Dancing with the Stars!
Over the years, the States have given up the right to be represented in congress by allowing their Senators to be elected by popular vote. The State legislatures now hold no power over their own Senators, who spend much of their efforts preparing for the next election, not serving the State's interests. Your local State legislatures has NO VOICE in DC. Now, the electoral college is virtually the last thread of power left to the individual states.
Changing that is one more step toward the Tyranny of the Masses feared by the founders of this nation.
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Blame the people who hail him when he speaks in the Forum of the 'new, wonderful, good society' which shall now be Rome's, interpreted to mean: more money, more ease, more security, more living fatly at the expense of the industrious." -- Marcus Tullius Cicero
Everything I've ever read about him says the opposite.
He was, however, a swarthy politician.
It was a stupid, dishonest slogan that was easy to see through before the first primary debates.